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"Highspeed"

02/02/2005 10:54 PM

Tablesaw tilt

I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Lars


This topic has 27 replies

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loutent

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

04/02/2005 10:06 AM

Hi Lars,

I used a RT saw for 15+ years. A month ago, I upgraded
to a better saw which happened to be LT.

I thought it might be a big deal to get used to, but
it only took a few days and I was comfortable with
it.

I do like the fact that on the LT, I don't have to
move the fence to the left of the blade (which means
lowering the blade to slide the fence over it to the
left) when I want to do a "raised panel" or something
like that when you want the waste piece to fall off.

Had I known the difference years ago when I bought the original
RT saw that I had, I probably would have gone LT.

Not that big a deal either way tho.

Lou

In article <1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews>,
Highspeed <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
> their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
> used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 5:01 PM

Yeah, I need to add that there are occasional exceptions to the rule. LOL


"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:12:49 +0000, Leon wrote:
>
>
>> "Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>>>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>>>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but
>>>have used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>> ;~) The single most asked question in this group that I paste this
>> rubber stamp answer to.
>>
>> Both saws will make all the same cuts. Some easier on the left tilt,
>> some easier on the right tilt. Strictly personal preference. But if you
>> need to be steered one way or the other,
>>
>> Advantages:
>>
>> Are you right handed?
>>
>> Get the left tilt.
>>
>> 1. Left tilt has the bevel wheel on the right side and is easily turned
>> with your Right hand.
>
> My right tilt Delta contractor saw (model 34-445C) has the bevel wheel on
> the right side.
>
> <snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>
>
>> 6. RIGHT tilt if you are left handed. The bevel wheel is on the left
>> side of the saw.
> See above
>
> <snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>
>
> --
> Luigi
> Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email
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>

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[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

04/02/2005 3:03 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Highspeed wrote:
>
>> I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>> their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>> used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
>EVERYONE has an opinion on left tilt vs. right tilt. Including me. Except
>I forget which way my saw tilts, so I'm not sure what my opinion is at the
>moment.
>
>The consensus is that there will never, ever be a consensus.

I disagree!!




*snicker*

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

04/02/2005 1:00 AM

Highspeed wrote:

> I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
> their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
> used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.

EVERYONE has an opinion on left tilt vs. right tilt. Including me. Except
I forget which way my saw tilts, so I'm not sure what my opinion is at the
moment.

The consensus is that there will never, ever be a consensus.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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Jeff Cooper

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 2:30 PM

max wrote:
> Richard
> It is not difficult to do. I motorize enlarge focus and lift functions
> pretty easily. I use a Grainger gear motor running around 3 to 10 RPM and
> two timing belt pulleys and a timing belt. The control is a Kodak carousel
> projector remote control. You can build the whole thing for less than $100.
> I can supply more info if needed.
> max
>
>
>>Has any one heard of a motorized tilt unit to add to a table saw? I
>>have a friend that has limited use of his right arm and has a hard time
>>of adjusting the tilt of his saw.
>
>

Another option, if you're electronicly inclined, would be a stepper
motor and a cheap controller like a PIC with a couple of momentary
switches to indicate direction. Check google for 'stepper motor
controller cheap'. Stepper motors are used a lot in hobby robotics so
that might be something to search on too.

Jeff

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 4:12 AM


"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>
;~) The single most asked question in this group that I paste this rubber
stamp answer to.

Both saws will make all the same cuts. Some easier on the left tilt, some
easier on the right tilt. Strictly personal preference. But if you need to
be steered one way or the other,

Advantages:

Are you right handed?

Get the left tilt.

1. Left tilt has the bevel wheel on the right side and is easily turned with
your Right hand.

2. Left tilt can rip a narrow bevel with out having to move the fence to the
left side of the blade.

3. Left tilt allows the blade arbor nut to be removed with your right hand.

4. Left tilt allows your to remove the arbor nut and turn it in the
direction that you would expect.

5. With a Left tilt, when both edges of a board are beveled, the sharp point
of the
bevel is up on the fence when cutting the second bevel as opposed to the
bottom of the fence where it might slip under.

6. RIGHT tilt if you are left handed. The bevel wheel is on the left side of
the saw.

7. RIGHT tilt if you "must" use the fence distance indicator when using a
stacked dado blade set. The blades stack left, away from the fence. The
indicator remains accurate. On the left tilt, the blades stack towards the
fence and makes the indicator inaccurate. In this case use a tape measure to
set the fence distance.

8. RIGHT tilt allows you to remove the arbor nut with your left hand but the
nut must be turned clockwise to loosen. Bassackwards to normalcy.

If considering a cabinet saw, with wide 50" rip capacity.

The Left tilt will most often afford you the most storage room under the
right table extension. The RIGHT tilt has an access door in that location
that will demand room to open. The left tilt allows you to have access to
the motor and or the insides of the cabinet from the more open left side of
the saw with out having to crawl under the right extension table. Very nice
if you ever happen to drop the arbor nut inside the cabinet. If you are
considering getting a replacement saw and considering going to the opposite
tilt this time consider that the miter slots may not be the same distance
from the blade when comparing a left to right tilt saw. This may or may not
be of concern but something to consider.

BG

Bob G.

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

05/02/2005 1:02 PM

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:06:35 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Lars,
>
>I used a RT saw for 15+ years. A month ago, I upgraded
>to a better saw which happened to be LT.
>
>I thought it might be a big deal to get used to, but
>it only took a few days and I was comfortable with
>it.
>
>I do like the fact that on the LT, I don't have to
>move the fence to the left of the blade (which means
>lowering the blade to slide the fence over it to the
>left) when I want to do a "raised panel" or something
>like that when you want the waste piece to fall off.
>
>Had I known the difference years ago when I bought the original
>RT saw that I had, I probably would have gone LT.
>
>Not that big a deal either way tho.
>
>Lou
>
=============
I have to agree...on it not beingfa big deal... "although with a Bies
fence you do not have to lower the blade...just lift it off and plop
it down... LOL

I have both L & R tilt saws in my shop... and switching from one to
the other does not even require a single second for me to adjust...
But to be honest the one saw is an older contractor saw that sits
with a home made percision sled for cut off work..and ocasionally
with a Dado blade in it... .

Bob Griffiths

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 8:56 PM

If you search the archives of this group, you will find more than you care
to read on this subject.

"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
> I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
> their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
> used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

05/02/2005 2:53 PM

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:17:27 GMT, "snowdog" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"snowdog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Depending on which side of the blade you have the fence on, I seems the
>> vast majority are on the right; wouldn't the left tilt be safer? In
>> talking with other folks who love woodworking and have been doing it a lot
>> longer than I have, I have heard that with a right tilt you not only run
>> the risk of colliding with the fence but it is possible to trap a piece of
>> wood between (under) the blade and the fence. I personally would not like
>> be there if/when it occurs. Mine is right tilt.
>
>Correction mine is left tilt. I got Confoosed.
>>
too many options?

sorry, I tried to keep myself from replying but couldn't resist that opening..
*g*



mac

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BG

Bob G.

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 12:47 PM

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:34:48 -0700, Doug Winterburn
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:21:31 +0000, Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
>
>> IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt saw
>> and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.
>
>I bet it can't tilt left.
>
>- Doug
-------------------
Depends on if you are standing in front of the saw or behind the
saw... some people have different view points ....

Bob Griffiths

ma

max

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 8:12 PM

Richard
It is not difficult to do. I motorize enlarge focus and lift functions
pretty easily. I use a Grainger gear motor running around 3 to 10 RPM and
two timing belt pulleys and a timing belt. The control is a Kodak carousel
projector remote control. You can build the whole thing for less than $100.
I can supply more info if needed.
max

> Has any one heard of a motorized tilt unit to add to a table saw? I
> have a friend that has limited use of his right arm and has a hard time
> of adjusting the tilt of his saw.

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 4:53 PM

LOL!

"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:21:31 +0000, Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
>
> > IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt saw
> > and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.
>
> I bet it can't tilt left.
>
> - Doug
>
> --
>
> To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert
Hubbard)
>

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

07/02/2005 2:39 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:21:31 +0000, Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
>
>> IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt saw
>> and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.
>
>I bet it can't tilt left.
>
>- Doug
>
>--
>
>To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)
>

Well, you got me there! :)

--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

Rz

Richard

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 8:17 AM

Has any one heard of a motorized tilt unit to add to a table saw? I
have a friend that has limited use of his right arm and has a hard time
of adjusting the tilt of his saw.

--


Richard,

Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478

http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=thewizz

"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste
good with ketchup"

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 5:03 PM


"Doug Winterburn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:21:31 +0000, Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
>
>> IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt saw
>> and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.
>
> I bet it can't tilt left.

Oh yeah it will but if it is a heavy saw it will be harder to do. ;~)

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 4:21 PM

In article <1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews>,
Highspeed <[email protected]> wrote:
>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lars
>
>

IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt
saw and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

02/02/2005 9:12 PM

Lars,
This subject has been discussed numerous times recently. Do a Google
Search and you'll find more than
enough opinions.
jlc

"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>

ss

"snowdog"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

05/02/2005 4:14 PM

Depending on which side of the blade you have the fence on, I seems the vast
majority are on the right; wouldn't the left tilt be safer? In talking with
other folks who love woodworking and have been doing it a lot longer than I
have, I have heard that with a right tilt you not only run the risk of
colliding with the fence but it is possible to trap a piece of wood between
(under) the blade and the fence. I personally would not like be there
if/when it occurs. Mine is right tilt.

John C
"Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

05/02/2005 4:05 PM


"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have to agree...on it not beingfa big deal... "although with a Bies
> fence you do not have to lower the blade...just lift it off and plop
> it down... LOL

Yup - same thing with the Align-A-Rip, and I'm sure a bunch of others. Must
be some fences don't lift off, otherwise I can't understand why people talk
about this. If so, I've never used one.


--

-Mike-
[email protected]


b

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 12:45 PM

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:17:10 -0800, Richard <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Has any one heard of a motorized tilt unit to add to a table saw? I
>have a friend that has limited use of his right arm and has a hard time
>of adjusting the tilt of his saw.


big commercial saws have them, but I've never seen one as an add-on.
perhaps a power feed unit for a mill-drill could be adapted.

LZ

"Luigi Zanasi"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

02/02/2005 11:05 PM

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:12:49 +0000, Leon wrote:


> "Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but
>>have used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lars
>>
> ;~) The single most asked question in this group that I paste this
> rubber stamp answer to.
>
> Both saws will make all the same cuts. Some easier on the left tilt,
> some easier on the right tilt. Strictly personal preference. But if you
> need to be steered one way or the other,
>
> Advantages:
>
> Are you right handed?
>
> Get the left tilt.
>
> 1. Left tilt has the bevel wheel on the right side and is easily turned
> with your Right hand.

My right tilt Delta contractor saw (model 34-445C) has the bevel wheel on
the right side.

<snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>

> 6. RIGHT tilt if you are left handed. The bevel wheel is on the left
> side of the saw.
See above

<snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>

--
Luigi
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DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 9:34 AM

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:21:31 +0000, Lawrence Wasserman wrote:

> IMHO it's just a matter of personal preference. I have a right-tilt saw
> and I can't think of anything it can do that a left-tilt can't.

I bet it can't tilt left.

- Doug

--

To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard)

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 6:17 PM

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:54:00 -0500, "Highspeed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lars
>

Mine tilts left, away from the fence (as it should for better safety).

ss

"snowdog"

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

05/02/2005 4:17 PM


"snowdog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Depending on which side of the blade you have the fence on, I seems the
> vast majority are on the right; wouldn't the left tilt be safer? In
> talking with other folks who love woodworking and have been doing it a lot
> longer than I have, I have heard that with a right tilt you not only run
> the risk of colliding with the fence but it is possible to trap a piece of
> wood between (under) the blade and the fence. I personally would not like
> be there if/when it occurs. Mine is right tilt.

Correction mine is left tilt. I got Confoosed.
>
> John C
> "Highspeed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1107402838.b0be7fbabd97037112400ecf8563795c@teranews...
>>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lars
>>
>
>

BG

Bob G.

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

03/02/2005 12:10 PM


>
>My right tilt Delta contractor saw (model 34-445C) has the bevel wheel on
>the right side.
>
><snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>
>
>> 6. RIGHT tilt if you are left handed. The bevel wheel is on the left
>> side of the saw.
>See above
>
><snip of other stuff that is correct and useful info>

================================
My older (1990 or so) "right tilt"Jet Cabinet Saw also has the bevel
adjustment on the right side of the saw... but who really cares...

In fact I can use the same statement (who really cares) to pick one
over the other...

I own and use both... and I can not remember when I used one saw
over the other because of which way the blade tilted...

The only cut I absolutely do only on the left tilt saw is a bevel rip
using plywood ...this is because I can
control any chip out on the "good" side of the plywood ...no other
reason...

To be frank I do not make that kind of cut all that often..can't even
remember the last time I made such a cut because i do not work with
plywood very much....

My advice.... flip a coin ...I would not pay an additional penny for
one over the other...


Ms

Mike

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

02/02/2005 10:31 PM

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:54:00 -0500, "Highspeed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion on left or right tilt for
>their tablesaw. I notice a lot of saws come with right tilt only but have
>used left tilt for a while. Any opinions would be appreciated.


I think it's just a matter of what you are used to.
I've used a right tilt for so long I couldn't really feel comfortable
changing. If I had always used a left tilt I'd probably feel the same
way....except backwards. :-)

I have noticed that a lot of higher end saws are available either way.

Mike O.

md

mac davis

in reply to "Highspeed" on 02/02/2005 10:54 PM

04/02/2005 11:10 AM

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:17:10 -0800, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Has any one heard of a motorized tilt unit to add to a table saw? I
>have a friend that has limited use of his right arm and has a hard time
>of adjusting the tilt of his saw.

Any way to either make an extension so he could use the other hand, or maybe a
big-assed wheel/handle for his right?


mac

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