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"stryped"

23/02/2006 5:40 AM

case hardening

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How do I tell if my wood is case hardened. I was reading baout it last
night. This rough cut white oak I have I moticed is cracking on the
ends in a few places. One small board has craks on one of the faces
too.

Is it possible to still use the wood or will it continue to split and
deform even after cutting and planing?


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"brianlanning"

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

23/02/2006 5:43 AM

When you rip it, if the kerf closes up right behind the blade, it's
probably case-hardened. If this happens and you're not using a
splitter, the table saw will try to kill you.

brian

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"stryped"

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

23/02/2006 6:12 AM

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What do you mean "using a splitter?"
brianlanning wrote:
> When you rip it, if the kerf closes up right behind the blade, it's
> probably case-hardened. If this happens and you're not using a
> splitter, the table saw will try to kill you.
>
> brian

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"brianlanning"

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

23/02/2006 6:26 AM

A splitter is a thin... thing behind the blade. A riving knife is a
type of splitter. It's a flat thing that's the same thickness as the
saw blade. It goes behind the blade so that if the kerf of the board
you're ripping tries to close up, it can't. The blade guards that come
with table saws have a splitter bult into the design. It's the flat
part that rides in the saw kerf and attaches to the stuff under the
table. Usually, the stock one has some sort of plastic guard on a
hinge on top of the splitter. The stock ones also usually have
kickback pawls which are little springed spike thingies that jam into
the wood if you get a kickback.

Here's one type of splitter:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51151&cat=1,41080,41165

This is just a splitter, no blade guard or kickback pawls. It's also
not a riving knife.

brian

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in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

23/02/2006 8:22 AM

brianlanning wrote:

<<If this happens and you're not using a
splitter, the table saw will try to kill you.>>

LMAO. Spoken like a man who has been there.


Robert

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"Max Mahanke"

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

24/02/2006 5:34 AM

Hey, we all know what a spitter is. Its that thing attached to the blade
guard that's stored in an inaccessible corner of the shop.

"brianlanning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A splitter is a thin... thing behind the blade. A riving knife is a
> type of splitter. It's a flat thing that's the same thickness as the
> saw blade. It goes behind the blade so that if the kerf of the board
> you're ripping tries to close up, it can't. The blade guards that come
> with table saws have a splitter bult into the design. It's the flat
> part that rides in the saw kerf and attaches to the stuff under the
> table. Usually, the stock one has some sort of plastic guard on a
> hinge on top of the splitter. The stock ones also usually have
> kickback pawls which are little springed spike thingies that jam into
> the wood if you get a kickback.
>
> Here's one type of splitter:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51151&cat=1,41080,41165
>
> This is just a splitter, no blade guard or kickback pawls. It's also
> not a riving knife.
>
> brian
>

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Scorp

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

23/02/2006 9:26 PM

On 23 Feb 2006 05:40:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:

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Hmmm...

>How do I tell if my wood is case hardened. I was reading baout it last
>night. This rough cut white oak I have I moticed is cracking on the
>ends in a few places. One small board has craks on one of the faces
>too.

Other than taking moisture readings (inside and out) which may or may
not reveal the problem, I don't know if there's a way to tell.
AFAIK this is usually caused by trying to kiln dry too fast, complain
to the supplier or not buy from them again?
I had a 10 ft 2x8 oak piece, when I resawed a 5/8 inch slice off, and
put it back together, with the ends touching, there was over a foot
gap in the middle! The larger side was bowed almost as much as the
thin slice. I was still able to use it as 1/2 inch baseboard although
I used it for the smaller chunks and extra.

>Is it possible to still use the wood or will it continue to split and
>deform even after cutting and planing?

If you can give it time after rough cutting (always recommended for
any wood), it should settle down.

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Bruce Barnett

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

25/02/2006 2:57 AM

Andy Dingley <[email protected]> writes:

> On 23 Feb 2006 05:40:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>How do I tell if my wood is case hardened.
>
> read Hoadley and cut a "tuning fork" sample. if it close outwards, it's
> case hardened,

Correction - if it closes inwards. (Page 97 - Understanding Wood, 1982
Edition)

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

25/02/2006 1:08 AM

On 23 Feb 2006 05:40:39 -0800, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:

>How do I tell if my wood is case hardened.

read Hoadley and cut a "tuning fork" sample. if it close outwards, it's
case hardened,

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "stryped" on 23/02/2006 5:40 AM

25/02/2006 1:04 PM

On 25 Feb 2006 02:57:40 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> read Hoadley and cut a "tuning fork" sample. if it close outwards, it's
>> case hardened,
>
>Correction - if it closes inwards. (Page 97 - Understanding Wood, 1982
>Edition)

Indeed. How did I manage to type "closes" and "outwards" together ?


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