Hi,
My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
brand.
I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
Milwaukee.
I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
(online if necessary).
TIA,
Jeanne
Jeanne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
I never had Milwaukee, but very familiar with Porter Cable and Dewalt,
got a bosch hammer dril a few years ago, corded heavy duty Bull Dog for
about $200 which is good for heavy use and not for shop at all. If he
is using for Shop, I would get a 18V Bosch, I have two 14V not hummer
and love them, quick recharch and lots of power. 18V HD would be the
best I would buy.
But you do not go wrong with Porter-Cable and or Makita (I say makita
because I like it more than other names like Milwaukee and DeWalt).
Good Lock
MaxEN
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
>
> TIA,
> Jeanne
On Dec 6, 7:16 am, Jeanne <[email protected]> wrote:
> I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
> husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>
I have a corded Bosch hammer drill that I got for about $160 a few
years ago at Sears. It is perfect for home shop work - not too big,
plenty of power, inexpensive. I agree with the earlier post saying that
a hammer drill is not the best candidate for cordless. A Hammer Drill
usually isn't used all that often, and when it is used, you want all
the power you can get.
On the other hand, if your husband already has a few cordless tools
with batteries bigger than 14 volts, then it would make sense to get
the same brand/battery size as the existing tools so that the batteries
and charger can be shared. This would make for an even better gift,
because he'd have a new tool, AND extra batteries for tools he already
has.
Mike
Hi Jeanne I have several battery hammerdrills ( 18v
Milwaukee, 14.4v Porter cable, 36v Hilti) . The battery hammerdrills
are OK for a few holes (1/4", 3/8" ) in concrete that hasn't cured
for too many years. If he has a project that requires drilling a lot of
holes or larger diameter holes then he'll need a corded hammerdrill or
rotary hammer(bigger). SDS type of chuck works great. This type of
drill is rated to about 1" drills max.. If I have to drill more than a
couple of 1/4" holes in older concrete I use the corded type SDS chuck
rotary hammer. If he only wants to drill an few 1/4" holes and will use
the drill most of the time for wood, metal, and as a screw driver the
smaller battery hammerdrills are OK. Jack
Wilson wrote:
>
> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
> WL
> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> > of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> > but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> > brand.
> >
> > I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> > larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> > Milwaukee.
> >
> > I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> > (online if necessary).
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jeanne
Hilti should pop up on that list as well since they are pretty much the
best of the best. Rather overkill for home use though. Makita also has a
decent hammer drill.
I'd tend to avoid cordless for several good reasons:
1) A hammer drill is an infrequently used tool for home use. Batteries
tend to die if they aren't used regularly.
2) Cordless costs a lot more and provides little benefit unless you are
a contractor doing a big commercial job.
3) Corded models are lighter and generally more powerful.
Pete C.
(Yes, I have a Hilti hammer drill (TM7SVSR) for home use, but I'm nuts)
"J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> > of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> > but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> > brand.
> >
> > I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> > larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> > Milwaukee.
> >
> > I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> > (online if necessary).
>
> I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's
> one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without
> reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2)
> should be even better.
>
> Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's
> no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that
> the batteries are interchangeable.
>
> Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if
> you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be
> fine.
>
> As far as places to buy go, <http://www.coastaltool.com> is a very
> reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store
> that also runs an internet business).
Second the recommendation for Coastal Tool, an excellent place. I used
to work fairly close to their store (both the old one with no parking
and the new one) and it was a frequent stop when I went out to lunch
(I'm now 1,700 miles away). In fact I just got a couple gift
certificates from them for holiday presents to send to friends.
Pete C.
Dave Jackson wrote:
>
> P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just
> hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill
> basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in
> very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block
> all. --dave
>
Technically the hammer only feature differentiates that unit as a
"rotary hammer" and not a "hammer drill". A rotary hammer is another
step up on the heavy duty scale from a hammer drill.
Pete C.
"J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
>
> > J. Clarke wrote:
> >> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dave Jackson wrote:
> >>>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
> >>>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless
> >>>> ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors
> >>>> in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog
> >>>> are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
> >>>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
> >>>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional
> >>>> drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be
> >>>> just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are
> >>>> more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill
> >>>> wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the
> >>>> big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Dave,
> >>>
> >>> May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read
> >>> your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried
> >>> searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded)
> >>> rotary hammer (like this:
> >>> http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=175982&G=54915&I=67521).
> >>> Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction
> >>> between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me.
> >>
> >> Bulldog is not cordless.
> >>
> >
> > Understood.
> >
> > When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked
> > my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the
> > cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs.
> >
> >>
> >> Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway.
> >>
> > Understood.
> >
> >> The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a
> >> hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and
> >> in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort
> >> of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial
> >> buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big
> >> holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that
> >> only fit rotary hammers.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our
> > house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We
> > want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like
> > the rotary hammer is a better tool for that.
>
> That sounds more like a job for a breaker hammer. Never had occasion
> to bust up concrete myself so can't really say how much tool is enough,
> but suspect you're in the realm where rental will make more sense than
> buying.
>
I'd think the best option for that would be a masonry blade in an angle
grinder to make a clean cut line a good inch deep to isolate the to be
removed section from the remaining patio. At that point just a sledge
should be able to break up the to be removed material. A hammer drill or
rotary hammer really aren't applicable (except for a very big rotary
hammer) and a breaker is just over kill to break up a few square feet of
patio slab.
Pete C.
Tue, Dec 5, 2006, 5:22pm [email protected] (Jeanne) doth
posteth:
Hi,
My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. <snip>
Then I'd buy him a gift card, or give him cash. Or, if you want to
buy it for him, I'd say ask exactly what he wants, so he'll get exactly
what he wants.
I'll be 66 soon, and my mother still buys me things for my
birthday, Christmas, etc., that I wouldn't buy for myself at a discount
at a yard sale. She never bothers to ask first. The only way Iget
anything I actually can use and want, besides new underwear, is if I
tell her specifically what I want. She even buys me the wrong
aftershave. I give my sons money, green goes with anything, and that
way I know damn well they'll be getting something they can use.
JOAT
I am, therefore I think.
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:47:56 -0600, Patriarch
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Wilson wrote:
>>>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>>>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>>>> W
>>>
>>>Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>>>husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>>>
>>>Jeanne
>>>
>>
>> If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless
>> drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill),
>> then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am
>> also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just
>> so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a
>> setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would
>> mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically
>> used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he
>> already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated
>> hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any
>> advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills
>> for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$.
>>
>> Dave Hall
>>
>
>Impact driver is what I think you were trying to describe, Dave. I
>started to respond when Jeanne first posted, then backed off. All I
>know about is the impact driver.
>
>I have a 12v Bosch, and like it al lot. Used it quite a bit in
>assembling the kitchen I'm building for my daugher-in-law, as well as a
>lot of other places. Drives screws reliably and fast, without serious
>wear and tear on the shoulder and elbows. Not too heavy, and not too
>hard on the Visa card, either.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-23612-Impactor-12-Volt-
>Cordless/dp/B0002VAFUC
>
>If this isn't what he wants, I apologize to all.
>
>Patriarch
No, I am talking a hammer drill. My DeWalt 18 v. has a hammer drill
setting, but is seldom used as such. The clutch has the normal low to
high settings, the drill setting and the hammer setting. If you only
have one decent sized cordless and little (but some) need for hammer
drill capabilities, this is a nice setup. If you are hammer drilling
on a regular basis, get a dedicated hammer drill (corded in my
opinion), but for my use this drill fits my overall needs. Impact
drivers, as far as I know, are great for driving screws and bolts in
heavy duty situations like deck building. I have never used an impact
driver other than a pneumatic for lug nuts. Core drills are another
thing altogether given the lubrication needs while drilling and the
wetness of their world.
Dave Hall
J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>> brand.
>>
>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>> Milwaukee.
>>
>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>> (online if necessary).
>
>
> I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's
> one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without
> reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2)
> should be even better.
>
> Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's
> no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that
> the batteries are interchangeable.
>
Ah. Good point. I'll check.
> Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if
> you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be
> fine.
>
> As far as places to buy go, <http://www.coastaltool.com> is a very
> reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store
> that also runs an internet business).
Jeanne wrote:
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
Pick one, you won't go wrong.
SFWIW, I had a standard 1/2", 18VDC, DeWalt Drill that saw a lot of
service in the 10 years before it was stolen.
Had to replace the batteries, but that was it.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
>
> TIA,
> Jeanne
>
I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
*excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo
corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't
buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my
needs, that is).
-Peter
--
=========================================
firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4
> inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
> round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
> experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
>
Yes. Ordinary 'quick chucks' will shake loose. But, again, Metabo sells a
double lock 'quick chuck' (e.g. one you tighten by hand, rather than with a
key) that will hold the bit even during hammer drill operations. Pricey ...
-P.
--
=========================================
firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com
Dave Jackson wrote:
> P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just
> hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill
> basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in
> very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block
> all. --dave
>
>
So, if he had to (hypothetically, of course) chip away part of a
concrete patio (the part that is blocking a hypothetical window well),
this would do it?
Thanks,
Jeanne
> "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones
>> cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in
>> concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are
>> SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling
>> and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine.
>> They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile
>> in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The
>> Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless
>> models too. --dave
>>
>>
>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>>>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>>>> W
>>> Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>>> husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>>>
>>> Jeanne
>>>
>>>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>>> heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
>>>>> research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one
>>>>> single brand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>>>> Milwaukee.
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Jeanne
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>
>
How about a box with a home made coupon for whatever he wants.
He's probably be excited if you offered to go with him to get it.
Trying to guess is always a trial and puts both people in a bind, unless he
will tell you what he wants.
WL
"Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
>
> TIA,
> Jeanne
I have the MIlwaukee version and recently upgraded to the V18 LiOn batteries
and love it. Plenty of power for home use. If it is for work, I would
recommend the Hilti.
Allen
"Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
>
> TIA,
> Jeanne
I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones
cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in
concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS
shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is
for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if
your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving
anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a
little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also
be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is
somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
"Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wilson wrote:
>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>> W
>
> Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband
> does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>
> Jeanne
>
>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
>>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
>>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>>> brand.
>>>
>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>> Milwaukee.
>>>
>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>> (online if necessary).
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Jeanne
>>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
Dave Jackson wrote:
> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones
> cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in
> concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS
> shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is
> for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if
> your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving
> anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a
> little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also
> be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is
> somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
>
>
Dave,
May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read
your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried
searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded)
rotary hammer (like this:
http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=175982&G=54915&I=67521).
Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction
between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me.
Thanks,
Jeanne
Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Wilson wrote:
>>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>>> W
>>
>>Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>>husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>>
>>Jeanne
>>
>
> If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless
> drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill),
> then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am
> also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just
> so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a
> setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would
> mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically
> used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he
> already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated
> hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any
> advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills
> for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$.
>
> Dave Hall
>
Impact driver is what I think you were trying to describe, Dave. I
started to respond when Jeanne first posted, then backed off. All I
know about is the impact driver.
I have a 12v Bosch, and like it al lot. Used it quite a bit in
assembling the kitchen I'm building for my daugher-in-law, as well as a
lot of other places. Drives screws reliably and fast, without serious
wear and tear on the shoulder and elbows. Not too heavy, and not too
hard on the Visa card, either.
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-23612-Impactor-12-Volt-
Cordless/dp/B0002VAFUC
If this isn't what he wants, I apologize to all.
Patriarch
P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just
hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill
basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in
very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block
all. --dave
"Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones
> cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in
> concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are
> SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling
> and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine.
> They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile
> in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The
> Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless
> models too. --dave
>
>
> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Wilson wrote:
>>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>>> W
>>
>> Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>> husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>>
>> Jeanne
>>
>>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>> heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
>>>> research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one
>>>> single brand.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>>> Milwaukee.
>>>>
>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Jeanne
>>>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
Jeanne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
I've owned the Milwaukee 18 volt hammer drill for about two and a half years or
so. So far, no problems with the batteries.... it recharges FAST and seems to
hold a charge for a very long time.
I have no doubt your husband would be very pleased to find one of these under
his tree at Christmas:
http://www.toolsforless.com/product/53.html
$239 for the kit with the drill, two batteries, rapid charger and carrying case.
You may find it cheaper somewhere else... I don't know. At the time I bought
mine, this was as good a deal as I could find on or offline. Delivery was
pretty quick, too.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
>
>> "Peter Huebner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>> heard
>>>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
>>>> research
>>>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>>>> brand.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>>> Milwaukee.
>>>>
>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Jeanne
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
>>> *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had
>>> Metabo
>>> corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch.
>>> Wouldn't
>>> buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for
>>> my
>>> needs, that is).
>>
>>
>> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my
>> drilling
>> operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I
>> love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has
>> anybody
>> tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold
>> 1/4
>> inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
>> round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
>> experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
>>
>> On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need
>> to
>> use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it
>> still
>> works very well. I inherited it from my Dad.
>
> What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one
> of these things?
> <http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341>? If
> so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer
> makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill.
>
> I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but
> I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill
> holes.
>
> As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that
> should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer
> drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue.
>
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot ne
In addition, I used to use star drills when I was working as a kid. That
makes me very old. Go easy on me. I'm just happy to be here talking with
you.
gw
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's
one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without
reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2)
should be even better.
Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's
no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that
the batteries are interchangeable.
Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if
you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be
fine.
As far as places to buy go, <http://www.coastaltool.com> is a very
reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store
that also runs an internet business).
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
> "Peter Huebner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
>>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
>>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>>> brand.
>>>
>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>> Milwaukee.
>>>
>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>> (online if necessary).
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Jeanne
>>>
>>
>> I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
>> *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo
>> corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch.
>> Wouldn't
>> buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my
>> needs, that is).
>
>
> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling
> operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I
> love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody
> tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4
> inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
> round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
> experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
>
> On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to
> use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still
> works very well. I inherited it from my Dad.
What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one
of these things?
<http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341>? If
so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer
makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill.
I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but
I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill
holes.
As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that
should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer
drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:32:24 +0000, Dave Jackson wrote:
> P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just
> hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill
> basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in
> very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block
> all. --dave
I suspect that that's gross overkill unless he's building a Usonian house
or something.
> "Dave Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless
>> ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors
>> in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog
>> are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling
>> and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine.
>> They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more
>> versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood,
>> metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big
>> 18volt cordless models too. --dave
>>
>>
>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>>>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>>>> W
>>>
>>> Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>>> husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>>>
>>> Jeanne
>>>
>>>> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>>> heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do
>>>>> some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even
>>>>> within one single brand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly
>>>>> no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch,
>>>>> and Milwaukee.
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Jeanne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:25:41 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
>>
>>> "Peter Huebner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>>> heard
>>>>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
>>>>> research
>>>>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>>>>> brand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>>>> Milwaukee.
>>>>>
>>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>> Jeanne
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
>>>> *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had
>>>> Metabo
>>>> corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch.
>>>> Wouldn't
>>>> buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for
>>>> my
>>>> needs, that is).
>>>
>>>
>>> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my
>>> drilling
>>> operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I
>>> love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has
>>> anybody
>>> tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold
>>> 1/4
>>> inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
>>> round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
>>> experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
>>>
>>> On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need
>>> to
>>> use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it
>>> still
>>> works very well. I inherited it from my Dad.
>>
>> What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one
>> of these things?
>> <http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341>? If
>> so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer
>> makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill.
>>
>> I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but
>> I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill
>> holes.
>>
>> As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that
>> should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer
>> drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue.
>>
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> The url you provided is exactly as I described. It will do 3x as much work
> as a standard battery drill. Check it out. I've been using battery drills
> since they've been invented, and the impact drill fits the bill for all
> battery drilling. Use one once and you'll buy it. Why so cranky?
If you liked that URL check out _this_ one.
<http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/dewalt/dw056k-2.htm?L+coastest+knfb3654ff7b3f7b+1165679669>
DeWalt has a rebate on their 18v impact driver. The rebate is an 18v
hammerdrill.
I've never seen an impact wrench as an alternative to a drill. I know
that others use it this way, I consider it to be misusing the tool.
I've used impact drivers. The one time in my life that I've missed one
was when I had a flat tire on a car with wheel locks that someone had put
on with an impact driver. There was just no way they were coming off with
the standard lug wrench. I've never felt any desire for one working with
wood, although I suppose if I was building decks or docks or something for
a living I'd find it to be handy.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
> Dave Jackson wrote:
>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless
>> ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors
>> in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog
>> are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional
>> drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be
>> just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are
>> more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill
>> wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the
>> big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
>>
>>
>>
> Dave,
>
> May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read
> your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried
> searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded)
> rotary hammer (like this:
> http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=175982&G=54915&I=67521).
> Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction
> between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me.
Bulldog is not cordless.
If he wants a cordless SDS hammer then look at
<http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/bosch/11536vsr.htm?L+coastest+hsvj0109ff7e6c7e+1165718844>,
<http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/dewalt/dw005k-2.htm?L+coastest+hsvj0109ff7e6c7e+1165718844>,
or for some other brands froogle "sds cordless hammer".
Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway.
The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a
hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and
in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort
of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial
buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big
holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that
only fit rotary hammers.
> Thanks,
> Jeanne
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Jackson wrote:
>>>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
>>>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless
>>>> ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors
>>>> in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog
>>>> are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
>>>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
>>>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional
>>>> drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be
>>>> just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are
>>>> more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill
>>>> wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the
>>>> big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read
>>> your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried
>>> searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded)
>>> rotary hammer (like this:
>>> http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=175982&G=54915&I=67521).
>>> Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction
>>> between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me.
>>
>> Bulldog is not cordless.
>>
>
> Understood.
>
> When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked
> my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the
> cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs.
>
>>
>> Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway.
>>
> Understood.
>
>> The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a
>> hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and
>> in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort
>> of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial
>> buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big
>> holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that
>> only fit rotary hammers.
>>
>>
>
> Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our
> house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We
> want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like
> the rotary hammer is a better tool for that.
That sounds more like a job for a breaker hammer. Never had occasion
to bust up concrete myself so can't really say how much tool is enough,
but suspect you're in the realm where rental will make more sense than
buying.
> Thanks
> Jeanne
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
>
>> "Peter Huebner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
>>>> heard
>>>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
>>>> research
>>>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>>>> brand.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>>>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>>>> Milwaukee.
>>>>
>>>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>>>> (online if necessary).
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Jeanne
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
>>> *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had
>>> Metabo
>>> corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch.
>>> Wouldn't
>>> buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for
>>> my
>>> needs, that is).
>>
>>
>> Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my
>> drilling
>> operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I
>> love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has
>> anybody
>> tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold
>> 1/4
>> inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
>> round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
>> experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
>>
>> On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need
>> to
>> use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it
>> still
>> works very well. I inherited it from my Dad.
>
> What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one
> of these things?
> <http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341>? If
> so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer
> makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill.
>
> I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but
> I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill
> holes.
>
> As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that
> should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer
> drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue.
>
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
The url you provided is exactly as I described. It will do 3x as much work
as a standard battery drill. Check it out. I've been using battery drills
since they've been invented, and the impact drill fits the bill for all
battery drilling. Use one once and you'll buy it. Why so cranky?
GW
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Wilson wrote:
>> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
>> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
>> W
>
>Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
>husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
>
>Jeanne
>
If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless
drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill),
then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am
also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just
so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a
setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would
mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically
used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he
already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated
hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any
advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills
for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$.
Dave Hall
"Peter Huebner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>> brand.
>>
>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>> Milwaukee.
>>
>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>> (online if necessary).
>>
>> TIA,
>> Jeanne
>>
>
> I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make
> *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo
> corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch.
> Wouldn't
> buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my
> needs, that is).
Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling
operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I
love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody
tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4
inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than
round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any
experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill?
On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to
use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still
works very well. I inherited it from my Dad.
gw
For Jeannie's edification; A hammer drill is one that can be switched from
a normal drill that rotates the drill bit to one that in addition to
rotating the drill bit also moves the bit in and out a bit. This is helpful
when drilling through concrete and the like.
Don Dando
"Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "J. Clarke" wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even
heard
> > > of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some
research
> > > but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> > > brand.
> > >
> > > I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> > > larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> > > Milwaukee.
> > >
> > > I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> > > (online if necessary).
> >
> > I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's
> > one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without
> > reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2)
> > should be even better.
> >
> > Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if
there's
> > no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that
> > the batteries are interchangeable.
> >
> > Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if
> > you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be
> > fine.
> >
> > As far as places to buy go, <http://www.coastaltool.com> is a very
> > reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar
store
> > that also runs an internet business).
>
> Second the recommendation for Coastal Tool, an excellent place. I used
> to work fairly close to their store (both the old one with no parking
> and the new one) and it was a frequent stop when I went out to lunch
> (I'm now 1,700 miles away). In fact I just got a couple gift
> certificates from them for holiday presents to send to friends.
>
> Pete C.
J. Clarke wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
>
>> Dave Jackson wrote:
>>> I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
>>> recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless
>>> ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors
>>> in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog
>>> are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The
>>> bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively.
>>> However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional
>>> drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be
>>> just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are
>>> more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill
>>> wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the
>>> big 18volt cordless models too. --dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read
>> your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried
>> searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded)
>> rotary hammer (like this:
>> http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-detail.htm?H=175982&G=54915&I=67521).
>> Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction
>> between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me.
>
> Bulldog is not cordless.
>
Understood.
When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked
my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the
cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs.
>
> Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway.
>
Understood.
> The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a
> hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and
> in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort
> of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial
> buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big
> holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that
> only fit rotary hammers.
>
>
Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our
house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We
want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like
the rotary hammer is a better tool for that.
Thanks
Jeanne
If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
WL
"Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
> brand.
>
> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
> Milwaukee.
>
> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
> (online if necessary).
>
> TIA,
> Jeanne
Jeanne wrote:
<snip>
>
> Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our
> house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We
> want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like
> the rotary hammer is a better tool for that.
For a job like that I'd rent an electric chipping hammer such as this:
http://www.envisupply.com/rentals/support/BoschElectricJackhammer.htm
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
Wilson wrote:
> If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
> awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more.
> W
Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my
husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita).
Jeanne
> "Jeanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>>
>> My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard
>> of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research
>> but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single
>> brand.
>>
>> I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no
>> larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and
>> Milwaukee.
>>
>> I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them
>> (online if necessary).
>>
>> TIA,
>> Jeanne
>
>