On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools.
No better or worse than anything made anywhere else.
The real problem is the notion that you deserve to spend no more than
$50 on a drill press. What do you think you're going to get for no
more than the price of a decent dinner ? Spend your $50 in China and
you probably get a poor drill press, but in the West you'd barely get
the bits to go in it.
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
I got one of the HF $43 variety and offer the following comments.
It is vastly superior to any electric hand drill to drill press
conversion I have ever seen.
it is somewhat under powered but you can go up to about 3/8" dia in
steel if you step drill.
for some applications the slowest speed is to fast (approx 600 rpm)
The spindle runs true within a thou or so.
The chuck on mine (jacobs type) left a bit to be desired but drills in
it ran true. Never the less I swapped it for a genuine jacobs i had on
hand.
As someone else said buy it from a store that will be there when you
take it back if you do not like it (harbor frieght, home depot etc.)
Sure you can save a few bucks buying it on e-bay but the shipping will
kill you if it is not up to standard.
I saw a great old Delta drill press at a flea market last summer, it
was $150 and I am sure it was worth it. (I went back later to get it
after much thinking and it was gone.)
If you need a drill press these will get you started, they are light
enough you can stow them when not in use and even take them out on the
deck in the summertime if you want.
Regards
Bob
If they're comparable to the set of brad point bits I mistakenly
bought RUN, DON'T walk away!
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
>Thanks
>
In article <[email protected]>,
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
I got one for $75; I was just shopping for a hand-drill guide. I got
the functionality I was looking for and I can now do other things (NOT
rout, thanks guys) that I never tried before. No, it can't do some of
the things the one I learned on in HS shop class could do. It doesn't
have the register pin to set the table angle. So what? I use an
engineer square to check alignment anyway. I got the functionality and
quality I paid for and expected.
--
"Keep your ass behind you."
>
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
>Thanks
If you buy a Chinese drill press, only get one from a real company like Delta,
Jet, HF, etc. As a former owner of a totally-generic eBay special (Aerotek
branded), I can tell you it was worthless crap. I cannot say how bad it was
without screaming and lots of gestures. Useless scrap metal, barely machined,
like a bunch of reject parts made in a cave.
GTO(John)
I suppose there are different quality standards in Chinese kit, the same as
there are anywhere else in the world, and what you get will be determined by
the QA set up by the outfit who markets it in your part of the world. I
have a Chiwanese drill press badged by Clark (a mass-market UK tool
supplier). It's pretty robust and does the job well. Dunno if I'd get +/-
1 thou accuracy with it, but it does what I need.
I expect we'll see more Chinese kit on the market as the big manufacturers
and suppliers continue to outsource their production. However the big
players will have pretty stringent QA requirements, so I would expect the
quality of Chinese kit to rise accordingly. At one time Japanese goods had
a similar reputation to that of China, but they've certainly sorted that out
in the last 30-40 years.
This has got to be good for the consumer, but it'll impact heavily on
Western industries who will have to match their quality/cost ratios. For
example, the Japanese invasion completely destroyed the British motorcycle
industry within a few years. Outsourcing much of the British garment and
textile production to Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh had a similarly bad
effect on our employment figures. However, what goes round, comes round,
and now these three countries, with the ending of their protected trade
agreements, are beginning to accept that their mass-market textile
production will inevitably go to China, so they are investing heavily in
going upmarket. Interestingly, a Sri-Lankan firm is dropping its
bread-and-butter cheap cotton T-shirts and is tooling up for the mass
production of high-quality embroidered baseball caps, with an eye to the
large US market for this commodity.
Depressing, isn't it!
Cheers,
Frank
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
> Thanks
>
>
Sat, Jan 31, 2004, 3:41pm (EST+5) [email protected] (bill) says:
At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have tried
these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
I have a HF model.
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I bought an HF bench style for 39.95 for the same reason and
I am pleased with it. Virtually no runout, quiet and
smooth, not real powerful as one would expect with a small
unit, but one just goes a little slower with bit larger than
1/4 to 3/8th. The table just slides up and down which
requires more work than a geared table model which runs
about twice the cost. If you buy direct from a HF store,
you take it back if you don't like it.
bill wrote:
>
> Noooooooo, I'm talking about the ones they sell between $35 and $60
> bucks. It won't get a lot of use, but sometimes I just need to get a
> hole drilled that is perpendicular to the table and you know how the
> hand drill is for that one.
>
> Bill
>
> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Grizzly sells a ton of them... I would stay with them or
> > one of the other majors. You can find a pretty good dp for
> > under $300.
> >
> >
> > bill wrote:
> >
> > > At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> > > tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
> Thanks
>
>
I thought a Chinese dreill was where everyone jumped out of the car at a
stop light and got back into different seats.
Noooooooo, I'm talking about the ones they sell between $35 and $60
bucks. It won't get a lot of use, but sometimes I just need to get a
hole drilled that is perpendicular to the table and you know how the
hand drill is for that one.
Bill
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Grizzly sells a ton of them... I would stay with them or
> one of the other majors. You can find a pretty good dp for
> under $300.
>
>
> bill wrote:
>
> > At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> > tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
I have 2 of the HF models one has a wobble so bad that it wont drill =
fine holes the other is just fine.
Puff
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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> At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
>Thanks
>
Great for cutting holes in balsa wood.
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:30:08 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Noooooooo, I'm talking about the ones they sell between $35 and $60
>bucks. It won't get a lot of use, but sometimes I just need to get a
>hole drilled that is perpendicular to the table and you know how the
>hand drill is for that one.
>
>Bill
you might want to consider a drill guide attached to your hand drill.
lighter, portablle, cheaper and possibly about as accurate as a rock
bottom end drill press.
mine is portalign brand....
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
I got one from www.SuzyQShop.com & found it was ok except for the
chuck. I replaced the chuck, and it drills fairly accurately.
However, I now have $55 into it instead of $35.
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Andy Dingley wrote:
> The real problem is the notion that you deserve to spend no more than
> $50 on a drill press. What do you think you're going to get for no
> more than the price of a decent dinner ? Spend your $50 in China and
$50, a *decent* dinner? If I spend $50 on dinner I'm eating at La Maison
Coûte Chère.
I usually feed my family of four a "decent" dinner for about $18 at Le Roi
des Hamburgers or La Cabane de la Pizza. :)
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:41:03 GMT, "bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
>tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
>Thanks
>
I have had several Tiawanese ones. my one line synopsis would be: they
can be made accurate enough with a bit of fiddling. Never had a
mainland Chinese one. I think I'd want to get a good look at it first.
Bridger
"bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> At the risk of being ostracized, I thought I would ask if any have
> tried these tools. They clog up the drill press category on ebay.
>
I am tempted to say "how bad can a drill press be?"; but I said that about a
reciprocating saw that broke after 5 minutes. Never again.
"Silvan" wrote in message
> $50, a *decent* dinner? If I spend $50 on dinner I'm eating at La Maison
> Coûte Chère.
>
> I usually feed my family of four a "decent" dinner for about $18 at Le Roi
> des Hamburgers or La Cabane de la Pizza. :)
Jacque dans la Boîte. Très exclusif!
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