I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
admission in higher.
It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
don't get too excited.
Lou
Swingman wrote:
<<For the hell of it, if you/anyone is interested in meeting for a cup
of
coffee before/after/on the way to the show, I'm close by and we'll
supply
the coffee ... wives welcome >>
Excellent. I would love it. As it gets closer, I will see how the
schedule plays out. It would be great to meet some of the folks behind
the name.
Robert
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>I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
> admission in higher.
It seems to me the Houston " The Woodworking Shows" show has gotten bigger
in the last several years. Admission about 1/2 of what it used to be if you
are taking your spouse. $8 for both of us and 1 of us for all 3 days.
> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
> was bought out and closed up.
IIRC the owner died.
These are the people that set up the
> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
> don't get too excited.
> Lou
So far it looks like it will be bigger in Houston.
>
"Joe Tylicki" wrote in message
> That's a good theory, but would it explain why some exhibitors would not
> show up at all anymore, as opposed to just scaling back to what works
best?
We are in the age of the MBA, there are fewer tool makers, most don't speak
English, the smaller brands have been bought out, all the tools are made in
the same factory so a _show_ only points out the lack of choice?
BTW, that's a question, not an answer.
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
> Swingman wrote:
>
> <<For the hell of it, if you/anyone is interested in meeting for a cup
> of
> coffee before/after/on the way to the show, I'm close by and we'll
> supply
> the coffee ... wives welcome >>
>
> Excellent. I would love it. As it gets closer, I will see how the
> schedule plays out. It would be great to meet some of the folks behind
> the name.
Let's count on it then. We can help Leon carry his wallet in and load his
bandsaw out. ;)
Go to www.wildriverband.com and send me e-mail at the addy used for Booking
and I'll get back to you.
Anyone else in the Houston area interested in getting together, do the same.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Let's count on it then. We can help Leon carry his wallet in and load his
> bandsaw out. ;)
GREAT!!!!!! After recalling the episode of my son and I unloading the
Rikon BS I was really concerned about him and I unloading a saw that is 150#
heavier. ;~)
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>I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
> admission in higher.
> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
> was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
> don't get too excited.
> Lou
I attended the show in Edison, NJ last December and the presentations by
David Marks were very nice and the opportunity to chat with Frank Klaus was
also nice. These days I pretty much go to these things for the presentations
and the opportunity to chat with folks...
I don't need any more tools and outside of admission and some food and
beverages didn't spend a dime there. ;~) There were plenty of vendors
present. Perhaps the venue Lou attended has deteriorated but the Edison show
seemed pretty good to me.
John
"Joe Tylicki" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Or maybe you are saying the best exhibitors have survived. Perhaps, but
> both Akeda and Leigh were absent this year, and there displays seemed to
be
> amongst the most popular in years past, for obvious reasons.
I'd guess that the ones that aren't showing up anymore, (as long as they're
still in business) have come to the conclusion that the cost of
presentations aren't being properly reimbursed by increased sales. It all
comes down to money.
> I may not get as much out of these shows as six or seven years ago, but I
> still enjoy the trek down to the exhibition hall with some fellow
> woodworkers.
And that to me is the main reason to make the trek to the shows, the chance
to talk it up with your buddies and maybe to mingle with a few of the
professionals doing the demonstrations.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
> Leon:
>
> Can you tell me when and where the next show in Houston will be? I am
> in San Antonio, a scant 3 1/2 hours away. I would love to be there,
> especially if the feeling is that it will be a good one.
Starts Friday, March 31 and runs for three days.
For the hell of it, if you/anyone is interested in meeting for a cup of
coffee before/after/on the way to the show, I'm close by and we'll supply
the coffee ... wives welcome (cuz Leon usually takes his to the show so he
can't spend as much ;) )
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"Joe Tylicki" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I was at the Milwaukee show today as well. It is smaller than last year
> which was smaller than two years ago. I don't get it, since like
everyone's
> said, there is plenty of attendance and interest from the populace.
Don't you think that the shrinking shows are common nature? With the
inclination that man has to improve and optimize things, it's a natural
tendency to try and offer fewer services while maintaining the same or a
bigger customer base. After a sustained period of growth, a limit has to be
reached sometime and scaling back becomes the norm.
I'd also suggest that woodworking shows are mostly attended by neophytes to
the art. The experience woodworker who has been building his collection of
tools for some period only attends functions like these solely for the
purpose of getting a deal on a specific desired tool. Having attended some
of these shows myself, I've come to feel that usually, there's never as much
of a deal to be had than hoped for.
On Sun 26 Feb 2006 04:47:52p, [email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
> admission in higher.
> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
> was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
> don't get too excited.
> Lou
>
Where was yours?
I spent a few hours at the Milwaukee show this weekend. Looked like about
the same as last few years, but I do rememember others saying it used to be
much bigger.
Not a lot of savings that I could see. I got a few supplies, and I spent
quite a bit of time at the Lie-Nielsen booth. Staring and drooling and
telling myself if I bought anything at this booth, it was time to just go
home because that shot the tool budget till April.
Bought a router raizer for the Freud, found a lumber supplier with good
prices - an urban reclaimer - and actually got a few good tips for biscuit
joinery in one of those freebie seminar things. All in all, I've been more
diappointed in previous shows. This one wasn't bad.
But yeah, they gittin smaller. Odd, since it seems like there's more
woodworkers every time.
>
> Don't you think that the shrinking shows are common nature? With the
> inclination that man has to improve and optimize things, it's a natural
> tendency to try and offer fewer services while maintaining the same or a
> bigger customer base. After a sustained period of growth, a limit has to
> be
> reached sometime and scaling back becomes the norm.
That's a good theory, but would it explain why some exhibitors would not
show up at all anymore, as opposed to just scaling back to what works best?
Or maybe you are saying the best exhibitors have survived. Perhaps, but
both Akeda and Leigh were absent this year, and there displays seemed to be
amongst the most popular in years past, for obvious reasons.
>
> I'd also suggest that woodworking shows are mostly attended by neophytes
> to
> the art. The experience woodworker who has been building his collection of
> tools for some period only attends functions like these solely for the
> purpose of getting a deal on a specific desired tool. Having attended some
> of these shows myself, I've come to feel that usually, there's never as
> much
> of a deal to be had than hoped for.
>
I completely agree on the deals. I think there are better deals to be had
by watching the fliers from local tool dealers when they have sales.
I may not get as much out of these shows as six or seven years ago, but I
still enjoy the trek down to the exhibition hall with some fellow
woodworkers. I am and probably always will be an amateur woodworker who
only spends time in the shop during the colder months of the year, but I do
see a fair amount of more experienced types at the shows still.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Joe Tylicki" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Or maybe you are saying the best exhibitors have survived. Perhaps, but
>> both Akeda and Leigh were absent this year, and there displays seemed to
> be
>> amongst the most popular in years past, for obvious reasons.
>
> I'd guess that the ones that aren't showing up anymore, (as long as
> they're
> still in business) have come to the conclusion that the cost of
> presentations aren't being properly reimbursed by increased sales. It all
> comes down to money.
I think it is scheduling. Leigh failed to show up a couple of times in
Houston and I asked them about it the last time that they were here. They
could not be in two places at the same time.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Leon:
>>
>> Can you tell me when and where the next show in Houston will be? I am
>> in San Antonio, a scant 3 1/2 hours away. I would love to be there,
>> especially if the feeling is that it will be a good one.
>
> Starts Friday, March 31 and runs for three days.
>
> For the hell of it, if you/anyone is interested in meeting for a cup of
> coffee before/after/on the way to the show, I'm close by and we'll supply
> the coffee ... wives welcome (cuz Leon usually takes his to the show so he
> can't spend as much ;) )
That sounds like a deal Sir. My wife is going and so that we can avoid the
crowds we are going on Friday. I get back in touch with you closer to show
time.
Actually, my "lovely wife" talks me into most of the tools that I buy.
I might have to stop by after the show for a stiff drink if I buy the band
saw that I am thinking about. :~)
I agree. The shows keep getting smaller and smaller. I went to the
Columbus OH two days out of the three. No great deals. No big name folks
there that I saw. But where else can you buy a beer and shop for power tools
in the same place? It's a little slice of heaven for me! I did end up
bringing a few things home as usual, but I seem to be buying less and less
there as the years go by. And I will be attending next year. --dave
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
> admission in higher.
> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
> was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
> don't get too excited.
> Lou
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
> admission in higher.
> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
> was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
> don't get too excited.
> Lou
>
at least you and others get a ww show. It appears that this year Phoenix
doesn't have one.
Gary
I was at the Milwaukee show today as well. It is smaller than last year
which was smaller than two years ago. I don't get it, since like everyone's
said, there is plenty of attendance and interest from the populace. I also
noticed like Lou did that some of the booths themselves shrunk (Summerfeld's
towers of CMT router bits were reduced to a couple long display cases for
example).
Like Leon said, I used to buy more tools and watch more gadgets, now I spend
more time talking to other woodworkers there. The mortiser I bought this
year (technically I bought it at Woodcraft offsite, but I negotiated the
price with Chris at the show) was a planned purchase, but I did bite on the
new Freud entry door bits. I'm going to use those to build custom doors to
a garage I'm building this summer.
Last year I was more dissappointed since at least one of the vendors
canceled at the last minute (Logersol) and they usually put on a good show.
Regardless, I'll be back next year.
"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun 26 Feb 2006 04:47:52p, [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I usually just sit and read the post but I have to ask the question,
>> Has anyone been the the woodworking show that tours the county latley?
>> http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/
>> A huge disappointment. The show is half the size in every way. The
>> booths are smaller, the venders are less, less freebies, and the
>> admission in higher.
>> It's my understanding that the company that did most of the work, TWC
>> was bought out and closed up. These are the people that set up the
>> booths and coordinated the show. If it hasn't come to your city yet,
>> don't get too excited.
>> Lou
>>
>
> Where was yours?
>
> I spent a few hours at the Milwaukee show this weekend. Looked like about
> the same as last few years, but I do rememember others saying it used to
> be
> much bigger.
>
> Not a lot of savings that I could see. I got a few supplies, and I spent
> quite a bit of time at the Lie-Nielsen booth. Staring and drooling and
> telling myself if I bought anything at this booth, it was time to just go
> home because that shot the tool budget till April.
>
> Bought a router raizer for the Freud, found a lumber supplier with good
> prices - an urban reclaimer - and actually got a few good tips for biscuit
> joinery in one of those freebie seminar things. All in all, I've been more
> diappointed in previous shows. This one wasn't bad.
>
> But yeah, they gittin smaller. Odd, since it seems like there's more
> woodworkers every time.