Br

Ba r r y

30/11/2004 12:59 AM

Penn State Overarm TS Guard

Anybody have one?

I was looking at an Excalibur, and noticed the PSI version of the dust
collecting overarm TS guard is half the price.

Thanks!
Barry


This topic has 9 replies

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

30/11/2004 11:37 PM

I just ordered my PS guard. In reading the online ad stuff, it says that it
can be mounted on the ceiling also.

If one has the room it would seem to be a good way to go. I'm using 4" drain
pipe to construct my DC system and hope to interface the PS unit from above
the saw.

Vic

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ba r r y wrote:
> > Anybody have one?
> >
> > I was looking at an Excalibur, and noticed the PSI version of the dust
> > collecting overarm TS guard is half the price.
>
>
>
> I've got one on my Ridgid contractor saw; it works pretty well. I have
two dust
> collection ports now; one under the saw, and the other over the top.
> Practically nothing gets by the dust collector now.
>
> The only thing I don't particularly like is that it attaches to the edge
of the
> right extension wing. That means nothing wider than about 30 inches will
fit on
> the right side of the saw. Of course, I've got plenty of space on the
left side
> of the blade. For really big sheet goods I use a straight edge and
circular saw
> anyway.
>
> If I had to do it over again, I think I would have rigged an extension bar
along
> the back of the wing and attached the upright to that instead of the wing
> itself. That would have given me another couple of feet on the right.
There's
> plenty of tubing to extend a fair distance with the guard. Hindsight is
> 20-20....
>
> That being said, I'm happy with it.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>

Mi

"Mike in Mystic"

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

01/12/2004 12:53 PM

I was biting my tongue - having made my feelings clear in the past. But
Barry is correct. On my Unisaw with a 50" table, the PS guard was severely
under-engineered with significant sagging. The mounting method was also not
very ideal - interfering with any storage under the extension table, as well
as not being particularly rigid. As some have noted, you can bolt it to the
floor which probably would be more successful.

IMO, mounting to the ceiling would probably work very well, so if that is
your option I would give it a try.

A sidebar to my experience was the absolutely abysmal customer service I
received from PS regarding this issue, with almost no regard for me as a
customer.

Mike


"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:37:31 GMT, "Vic Baron" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I just ordered my PS guard. In reading the online ad stuff, it says that
>>it
>>can be mounted on the ceiling also.
>>
>>If one has the room it would seem to be a good way to go. I'm using 4"
>>drain
>>pipe to construct my DC system and hope to interface the PS unit from
>>above
>>the saw.
>>
>
> Let me know how it works out. I just found Mike in Mystic's
> mini-review via Google, and it didn't work out for him.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
>

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

30/11/2004 10:59 PM

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:42:36 -0500, Bob G.
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The Penn State unit at 1/2 the price most likely would
>be just fine with me...as I am not really that enthused about DC on
>top of the table..

The DC is already connected to the saw, I just want to pick up SOME of
the dust from the top. Now I get pockets full of sawdust. <G>

Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

02/12/2004 1:04 AM

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:53:16 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>IMO, mounting to the ceiling would probably work very well, so if that is
>your option I would give it a try.

I was actually thinking that if I'm going to hang it from the ceiling,
I might as well just buy the "replacement" guard for $25 and fabricate
a hanger and hose assembly myself.


>A sidebar to my experience was the absolutely abysmal customer service I
>received from PS regarding this issue, with almost no regard for me as a
>customer.

I noticed that too, in another post. Your experiences when dealing
with other places usually match my own, so I value your opinion.

Barry

DW

"Dave W"

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

02/12/2004 6:56 AM

I have mine mounted from the Ceiling and it works very well. No extra parts
are needed.
Every thing needed is there. If you like, send me your email address and I
will send you a
pic off list.
Dave in Cherrylog GA.
[email protected]

"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:53:16 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>IMO, mounting to the ceiling would probably work very well, so if that is
>>your option I would give it a try.
>
> I was actually thinking that if I'm going to hang it from the ceiling,
> I might as well just buy the "replacement" guard for $25 and fabricate
> a hanger and hose assembly myself.
>
>
>>A sidebar to my experience was the absolutely abysmal customer service I
>>received from PS regarding this issue, with almost no regard for me as a
>>customer.
>
> I noticed that too, in another post. Your experiences when dealing
> with other places usually match my own, so I value your opinion.
>
> Barry

BG

Bob G.

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

30/11/2004 10:42 AM

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:59:25 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Anybody have one?
>
>I was looking at an Excalibur, and noticed the PSI version of the dust
>collecting overarm TS guard is half the price.
>
>Thanks!
>Barry
=========================
I have owned an Excalibur over head unit for almost 15 years now and
I think it was one of my better "investments" that I have ever made

Truthfully I would buy it again for the utility of the overhead
guard.. BUT I would not waste my money on it if I were interested more
in controilling saw dust...

I say that because because I love the guard.. because I can move it
completely out of the way or adjust it in less then a second...

HOWEVER if you check tha archives you will note that I have stated
many times that as a DUST COLLECTION piece of equiptment it is
NOT all that great.. .

My unit looks nothing like the current model.... but the operating
principles are identical... The original saw dust pick up point waas
at the back of the guard... I sealed that port and moved the pick up
point to the side of the front of the guard and it works much better
in the front.. I did away with using my DC (2 HP Griz) to collect
dust from both the saw and the guard years ago...now I have my shop
vac connected to the guard and use the DC only for the saw seems to
work better that way...

The Penn State unit at 1/2 the price most likely would
be just fine with me...as I am not really that enthused about DC on
top of the table..

Bob Griffiths

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

01/12/2004 1:44 AM

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:37:31 GMT, "Vic Baron" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I just ordered my PS guard. In reading the online ad stuff, it says that it
>can be mounted on the ceiling also.
>
>If one has the room it would seem to be a good way to go. I'm using 4" drain
>pipe to construct my DC system and hope to interface the PS unit from above
>the saw.
>

Let me know how it works out. I just found Mike in Mystic's
mini-review via Google, and it didn't work out for him.

Thanks,
Barry

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

30/11/2004 1:38 AM

Ba r r y wrote:
> Anybody have one?
>
> I was looking at an Excalibur, and noticed the PSI version of the dust
> collecting overarm TS guard is half the price.



I've got one on my Ridgid contractor saw; it works pretty well. I have two dust
collection ports now; one under the saw, and the other over the top.
Practically nothing gets by the dust collector now.

The only thing I don't particularly like is that it attaches to the edge of the
right extension wing. That means nothing wider than about 30 inches will fit on
the right side of the saw. Of course, I've got plenty of space on the left side
of the blade. For really big sheet goods I use a straight edge and circular saw
anyway.

If I had to do it over again, I think I would have rigged an extension bar along
the back of the wing and attached the upright to that instead of the wing
itself. That would have given me another couple of feet on the right. There's
plenty of tubing to extend a fair distance with the guard. Hindsight is
20-20....

That being said, I'm happy with it.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]


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igor

in reply to Ba r r y on 30/11/2004 12:59 AM

03/12/2004 2:40 AM

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 01:04:25 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:53:16 GMT, "Mike in Mystic"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>IMO, mounting to the ceiling would probably work very well, so if that is
>>your option I would give it a try.
>
>I was actually thinking that if I'm going to hang it from the ceiling,
>I might as well just buy the "replacement" guard for $25 and fabricate
>a hanger and hose assembly myself.
>
>
If I had not already bought the plastic to fab my own guard, I was thinking
the same thing. -- Igor


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