Robin lee, tech question

"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Slowhand wrote:
>>What is the recommended install position of these?
>
> Not Rob but I've played with the Salice sales sample and it
> has it installed towards the hinge edge of the door.
> There's less of a tendency for the door to come slamming
> against the dampener hard with that location.

Hmm. Never thought of that.

>
>>I only have one shot at it as these are non adjustable :-(
>
>>I assume the install would be the damper in the recessed position to where
>>the door should be positioned when closed? Or slightly back of that?
>
> You must be talking about an inset door. With an overlay
> door you have an eighth of an inch between the back of the
> door and the face of the cabinet edge. I'd say that the
> dimension you want is door thickness plus an eighth. If you
> go more (a sixteenth) it won't hurt.

Yep, I forgot to mention they are inset. The face frame thickness is 3/4 ,
the doors are 5/8" heavy which would put the shelves an eighth or so back
from where the door is shut. I had planned on mounting the dampner on the
under side of the shelf. That is where I was curious on how far back to
mount it.

>
> The best thing you can do is make a block with a lip on one
> edge and a drill pattern to match with the offset already
> compensated for. Then you just go door to door. Oh yeah,
> 'speriment with one first.

Might just do that.

>
>>You might mention to who ever makes them to make them forward/reverse
>>adjustable ;-)
>
> Ehh?

Slotted

>
>>SH - The "adjustable makes me less nervous" woodworker
>
> I don't know who makes the ones Lee Valley is selling but
> here at KeeterKitchen Y2K plus V we're installing the
> Salice. Blum also has them. Truth is, they all look like
> the ones Lee Valley is selling.
>
> In other words, get the LV.

Already did. And a big thankyou.
SH

"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Slowhand wrote:
>>> Ehh?
>
>>Slotted
>
>
> Ahhhh. That makes sense. Here is what I suspect you'll
> find. They are slotted. At least all the hardware I see
> now-a-days is. Here's also what I think you'll find. You
> can mount them too far out in which case the door won't
> close all the way. I don't think you'll have a problem if
> you were to mount them too far in (by a sixteenth) because
> of the amount of plunge travel. In other words, I suspect
> the plunge travel will be something like 1/2" and if you
> were to come away with 7/16" all would be good.
>
> At least that's what I'm arm chair injineering from here.
>
> Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
> I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
> 10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
> alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.

I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term Salice. I
finally opened one of the packages last night and there was a Salice dampner
in there. How does LV do it? ;-)

I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate here
but those dampners work wonders!
SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker
>
> UA100

"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
>>> I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
>>> 10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
>>> alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.
>>
>> I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term
>> Salice. I finally opened one of the packages last night and there was
>> a Salice dampner in there. How does LV do it? ;-)
>>
>> I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate
>> here but those dampners work wonders!
>> SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker
>>>
>>> UA100
>>
>
> Pictures, please, Slowhand. Some of use eavesdroppers are visual
> learners.
> If we learn at all, that is.

Heh, heh. Pics coming soon. The project is a couple of medicine cabinets
made from mdf. Just starting to paint them now finally. I'll get extreme
closeups of the salice dampner too.
SH
>
> Patriarch

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> "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in message
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>> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> >>> Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
>> >>> I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
>> >>> 10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
>> >>> alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.
>> >>
>> >> I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term
>> >> Salice. I finally opened one of the packages last night and there was
>> >> a Salice dampner in there. How does LV do it? ;-)
>> >>
>> >> I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate
>> >> here but those dampners work wonders!
>> >> SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker
>> >>>
>> >>> UA100
>> >>
>> >
>> > Pictures, please, Slowhand. Some of use eavesdroppers are visual
>> > learners.
>> > If we learn at all, that is.
>>
>> Heh, heh. Pics coming soon. The project is a couple of medicine
>> cabinets
>> made from mdf. Just starting to paint them now finally. I'll get
>> extreme
>> closeups of the salice dampner too.
>> SH
>> >
>> > Patriarch
>>
>
>
> Hi -
>
> Looks like I got to this too late... glad they worked for you.
>
> Anyone with small kids (or big ones, for that matter) should have one of
> these on the cereal cupboard door....

Shhh, Keith's wife might be listening ;-)
SH

Slowhand wrote:
>> Ehh?

>Slotted


Ahhhh. That makes sense. Here is what I suspect you'll
find. They are slotted. At least all the hardware I see
now-a-days is. Here's also what I think you'll find. You
can mount them too far out in which case the door won't
close all the way. I don't think you'll have a problem if
you were to mount them too far in (by a sixteenth) because
of the amount of plunge travel. In other words, I suspect
the plunge travel will be something like 1/2" and if you
were to come away with 7/16" all would be good.

At least that's what I'm arm chair injineering from here.

Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.

UA100

"Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:

<snip>

>> Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
>> I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
>> 10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
>> alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.
>
> I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term
> Salice. I finally opened one of the packages last night and there was
> a Salice dampner in there. How does LV do it? ;-)
>
> I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate
> here but those dampners work wonders!
> SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker
>>
>> UA100
>

Pictures, please, Slowhand. Some of use eavesdroppers are visual learners.
If we learn at all, that is.

Patriarch

"Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in message
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> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>> Please do a short write up on what happens/your impressions.
> >>> I'm getting tired of hearing cabinet doors slam (Claire, age
> >>> 10) and all and St. Soozan wants the dampeners and as I've
> >>> alluded to before, they are slicker than dog snot.
> >>
> >> I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term
> >> Salice. I finally opened one of the packages last night and there was
> >> a Salice dampner in there. How does LV do it? ;-)
> >>
> >> I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate
> >> here but those dampners work wonders!
> >> SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker
> >>>
> >>> UA100
> >>
> >
> > Pictures, please, Slowhand. Some of use eavesdroppers are visual
> > learners.
> > If we learn at all, that is.
>
> Heh, heh. Pics coming soon. The project is a couple of medicine cabinets
> made from mdf. Just starting to paint them now finally. I'll get extreme
> closeups of the salice dampner too.
> SH
> >
> > Patriarch
>


Hi -

Looks like I got to this too late... glad they worked for you.

Anyone with small kids (or big ones, for that matter) should have one of
these on the cereal cupboard door....

Cheers -

Rob

SH:
>I couldn't figure out what you were talking about with the term Salice. I
>finally opened one of the packages last night and there was a Salice dampner
>in there. How does LV do it? ;-)

As an aside, the European hinge (Blum/Grass, etal) was
invented by Salice.

>I did a mock up last night and gotter figgerd out. I won't bloviate here
>but those dampners work wonders!
>SH - The "and I thought sliced bread was cool" woodworker

Whadda I say? Slicker than dog snot they are.

UA100

Slowhand wrote:
>What is the recommended install position of these?

Not Rob but I've played with the Salice sales sample and it
has it installed towards the hinge edge of the door.
There's less of a tendency for the door to come slamming
against the dampener hard with that location.

>I only have one shot at it as these are non adjustable :-(

>I assume the install would be the damper in the recessed position to where
>the door should be positioned when closed? Or slightly back of that?

You must be talking about an inset door. With an overlay
door you have an eighth of an inch between the back of the
door and the face of the cabinet edge. I'd say that the
dimension you want is door thickness plus an eighth. If you
go more (a sixteenth) it won't hurt.

The best thing you can do is make a block with a lip on one
edge and a drill pattern to match with the offset already
compensated for. Then you just go door to door. Oh yeah,
'speriment with one first.

>You might mention to who ever makes them to make them forward/reverse
>adjustable ;-)

Ehh?

>SH - The "adjustable makes me less nervous" woodworker

I don't know who makes the ones Lee Valley is selling but
here at KeeterKitchen Y2K plus V we're installing the
Salice. Blum also has them. Truth is, they all look like
the ones Lee Valley is selling.

In other words, get the LV.

UA100