On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:23:32 PM UTC-5, Rob H. wrote:
> > >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/ >> > >2867 is a burr from a coffee mill=
-- > >LLoyd=20
> Sounds like a good answer, I did a quick search and couldn't find one lik=
e it but hopefully will by tomorrow. Thanks, Rob
Many grinders have similar burrs, not just for coffee. Found in a garden, =
previously a farmyard? Size gives a clue, also. =20
My grandfather had a corn grinder with a very similar looking small diamete=
r burr (positioned horizontally), for grinding corn into smaller bits, to f=
eed the baby chicks, not for making edible meal or for ginding coffee beans=
. =20
A corresponding concave disc/burr was stationary over the lower rotating di=
sc. I'm sure other grains could be ground, also. The grinding aspect was =
not completely enclosed, to capture all the bits, pieces and dust of the me=
al, so as you cranked the handle, some debris would fall out from other tha=
n the spout area. That grinder was mounted on a post under an overhang of =
the barn, ie., the debris remained outdoors. Someone in the family still ha=
s that old grinder, so a pic might be able to be gotten. The grinding acti=
on (and burr) was visible as you ground the corn. When young, I operated t=
he grinder many times, when visiting.
2867 - A burr for a grain grinder for crushing large grain into smaller siz=
es for feeding chicks and other small farm birds, or the like.
Sonny
On Thu, 09 May 2013 07:35:53 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
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>> 2867 - looks like the spiral-bevel driven gear for a small angle-head
>> hand tool, such as an angle-head drill motor.
>
>It certainly could be. There are very few differences between a plain
>burr and a gear, except where it's used.
>
>I said I was sure -- wasn't guessing. Now you have me wondering if I
>shouln't have jumped on it so quickly! <G>
>
>Lloyd
Don't wonder. After posting my suggestion I read yours and slapped my
head..."of course, dummy," says I to myself.
So now we've sown doubt in each other. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
On 5/9/2013 5:53 AM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> 2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
> mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
> use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)
>
> LLoyd
>
Is that your "final" guess? :~) I think I would agree with you that
does look like you said.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2864 makes me think of a worn/tumbled/eroded galena crystal.
2867 Spice grinder/pepper mill burr
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> No luck yet identifying the rock but the answers for the rest of this set have
> been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/05/set-492.html#answers
I think you said something about lead.
Look at the crystal structure of galena.
Have them do a hardness and streak test.
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> It is only 1.5" dia., are commercial grinder burrs really that small?
>
> A few are, but only the fine-grind "expresso" types. I've only had a
> couple that small, and they weren't useful for chemicals grinding. The
> rest those I saved are from 2.5" o.d. to 5" o.d., and of varying types.
>
> Some have 'plain' surfaces like that (but it still could be a helical
> gear!)
> Some have an auger in the center.
> Some have "cut teeth" where the helical teeth have been gouged at periods
> to provide movement of the material. Usually the gouging is in a spiral.
> Some have only 'spikes', and no radial or helical teeth at all.
> Some have round holes.
> Some have square holes.
> Some have mounting holes for a bushing or boss.
>
> I don't think anyone ever decided what is the optimum configuration for a
> coffee grinding burr!
>
> The ones I have all share two things: They came from an A&P Grocery
> store warehouse shutdown, and they're all harder than a witch's heart!
> You could cut C-90 cobalt tools with 'em!
>
> Lloyd
Well then, if 2867 is hard, it is likely a grinder. If it is soft it is
likely a drive washer.
On 5/9/2013 9:05 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
>
> 2864. I going to guess one of thousands used to polish raw castings.
>
> 2865. With the handle being approximately 10" long the triangular piece
> is used to do things that require a triangular shaped object. The
> symmetrical shape from one side to the other aids in implementing the
> required action to complete the task of doing something with the
> triangular shaped piece. Ok, I'll stop now. ;~)
Actually I think I have seen something similar used to skin an animal.
On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2864. I going to guess one of thousands used to polish raw castings.
2865. With the handle being approximately 10" long the triangular piece
is used to do things that require a triangular shaped object. The
symmetrical shape from one side to the other aids in implementing the
required action to complete the task of doing something with the
triangular shaped piece. Ok, I'll stop now. ;~)
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2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)
LLoyd
Ed Huntress <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> 2867 - looks like the spiral-bevel driven gear for a small angle-head
> hand tool, such as an angle-head drill motor.
It certainly could be. There are very few differences between a plain
burr and a gear, except where it's used.
I said I was sure -- wasn't guessing. Now you have me wondering if I
shouln't have jumped on it so quickly! <G>
Lloyd
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> So now we've sown doubt in each other. d8-)
>
Heh! "Decision by committee!" <G>
Lloyd
On 09 May 2013 in rec.woodworking, Ralph wrote:
> On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> 2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it
> into a corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
into a homemade handle.
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"anorton" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> It is only 1.5" dia., are commercial grinder burrs really that small?
A few are, but only the fine-grind "expresso" types. I've only had a
couple that small, and they weren't useful for chemicals grinding. The
rest those I saved are from 2.5" o.d. to 5" o.d., and of varying types.
Some have 'plain' surfaces like that (but it still could be a helical
gear!)
Some have an auger in the center.
Some have "cut teeth" where the helical teeth have been gouged at periods
to provide movement of the material. Usually the gouging is in a spiral.
Some have only 'spikes', and no radial or helical teeth at all.
Some have round holes.
Some have square holes.
Some have mounting holes for a bushing or boss.
I don't think anyone ever decided what is the optimum configuration for a
coffee grinding burr!
The ones I have all share two things: They came from an A&P Grocery
store warehouse shutdown, and they're all harder than a witch's heart!
You could cut C-90 cobalt tools with 'em!
Lloyd
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alexander Thesoso <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> 2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
> mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
> use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)
>
> LLoyd
It is only 1.5" dia., are commercial grinder burrs really that small?
To me it looks more like a drive washer:
http://www.heliproz.com/22808000-Drive-Washer-21-32-OSMG5496/productinfo/147760/
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This week's set has been posted:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob
>
2863- Military origin, from 265th Maintenance Battalion.. My guess would be
that it's ceremonial. Possibly a baton, swagger stick or (unlikely) drum
stick. Dunno.
On 9 May 2013 01:05:16 -0700, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>This week's set has been posted:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
>Rob
2867 - looks like the spiral-bevel driven gear for a small angle-head
hand tool, such as an angle-head drill motor.
--
Ed Huntress
Posting from my desktop PC in the living room, as always.=20
2863, probably a ceremonial staff, carried in parades.=20
2864, no clue.=20
2865, short barrel tomohawk, easily concealed.=20
2866, Reminds me of the ring the dentist wears with the cleaning paste.=20
2867, badly rusted. But looks like a machinst mill.=20
2868, no clue.=20
Christopher A. Young=20
Learn more about Jesus=20
www.lds.org =20
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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This week's set has been posted:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Rob
On 5/9/2013 12:26 PM, Joe Makowiec wrote:
> On 09 May 2013 in rec.woodworking, Ralph wrote:
>
>> On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it
>> into a corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
>
> Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
> from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
> into a homemade handle.
>
Yes it was a section used on sickles. Very likely a home made tool.
Rob H. wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2863 -
2864 - Looks like an old musket ball.
2865 - Home made stalk/cane cutter. Made quite a few for folks. Not sure
if they were sold commercially or not.
2866 -
2867 - Portable grain/coffee mill burr.
2868 -
--
Steve W.
>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>2867 is a burr from a coffee mill -- one of the higher-speed commercial
>mills, like you see in grocery stores. (I have a stack of them, which we
>use for grinding chemicals, so I'm not guessing)
>
>LLoyd
Sounds like a good answer, I did a quick search and couldn't find one like it
but
hopefully will by tomorrow.
Thanks,
Rob
In article <[email protected]>, Walter Kraft
says...
>
>Am 09.05.2013 17:21, schrieb Walter Kraft:
>> Am 09.05.2013 10:05, schrieb Rob H.:
>>> This week's set has been posted:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 2866.... Case puller to use with shotguns without ejektors.
>>
>> Walter
>>
>
>
>lol..
>
>
>You may check the What is it Blog , Set # 423
Good memory! Someone had just sent me a couple of photos of the shell puller so
I
went ahead and posted it again. Years ago when someone would send me something
that I had previously posted I would tell them thanks but I already posted one
of
those, but I've since change my policy and now repost things once in a while. I
appreciate it when people send me items to post, and if nothing else it serves
as
a memory test.
Rob
In article <[email protected]>, Ralph says...
>
>On 5/9/2013 3:05 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it into a
>corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
That's it! As seen on page 255 of the Dictionary of American Hand Tools under
the
category of knife, he calls it a Bale Tie Cutter.
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> 2865 Is a knife to cut the twine on corn bundles when feeding it
>> into a corn shredder. I used one like that 60 years ago.
>
>Going back a couple of weeks - the blade looks like it could be a knife
>from a sickle bar, possibly one which has been replaced, which is fitted
>into a homemade handle.
Yes, I've seen a few of these tools and every one of them looked homemade from
part of a sickle bar blade.
On 2013-05-09, Rob H <[email protected]> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2863) Hmm ... some sort of ceremonial baton. Given the green
color, I suspect some Irish group, but it could be green
for ceremonial reasons in any number of organizations which
I don't know the details of.
2864) Is that weight estimate accurate? If it is sort of close,
perhaps a ball of Tungsten. Nobody tried to see how hard it is?
If it is easy to dent, lead itself is likely. If very hard,
Tungsten is possible. Or perhaps something like depleted
Uranium?
2865) Is it sharp or dull? If sharp, a custom purpose knife. If
dull, perhaps used for smoothing edges.
2866) Likely intended to slip onto disc-shaped projections from
a truck or aircraft body to use for attaching cargo nets and
ropes to keep things from shifting in transit.
2867) A hypoid style gear (combination of a bevel gear and an input
gear whose axis is below or above the center height of the gear
shown. It is likely part of a differential, and based on the
size, it is most likely from a toy car of some sort. Not even
one big enough for a kid to ride on.
Now -- it *might* be some form of cutter, instead. But to tell
that would require the rust and dirt to be cleaned off it, and
ideally to see it in its pre-rust condition.
2868) Hmmm .... aside from the fitting in the bottom center, it looks
rather like one of the waxed leather drinking flasks found in
various medieval reenactment gatherings. But at 14" tall, that
is a lot to drink. :-)
The bottom think looks like it is designed to snap into some
sort of mounting place. Perhaps it is designed to capture leaks
from some sort of lubricator, and to allow it to be poured back
into the supply vessel at the top?
Now to post, and then see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2013-05-09, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
> Some have 'plain' surfaces like that (but it still could be a helical
> gear!)
> Some have an auger in the center.
> Some have "cut teeth" where the helical teeth have been gouged at periods
> to provide movement of the material. Usually the gouging is in a spiral.
> Some have only 'spikes', and no radial or helical teeth at all.
> Some have round holes.
> Some have square holes.
> Some have mounting holes for a bushing or boss.
>
> I don't think anyone ever decided what is the optimum configuration for a
> coffee grinding burr!
Perhaps it is a result of trying to get around various patented
designs -- during the period when the patents were still valid?
> The ones I have all share two things: They came from an A&P Grocery
> store warehouse shutdown, and they're all harder than a witch's heart!
> You could cut C-90 cobalt tools with 'em!
Sound useful, then.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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