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Renata

26/06/2007 9:01 AM

chain smoker & furniture residues problem

Friend is rehabbing his late mother's house, who smoked like a
chimney. No, better make that a smokestack. The walls are yellow
from the smoke, coats and coats of kilz (even premium) haven't been
enough to hide it.

So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
this sort of environment?

There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.

Suggestions?

Thanx
Renata


This topic has 11 replies

RN

RayV

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 10:57 AM

On Jun 26, 9:01 am, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:
> Friend is rehabbing his late mother's house, who smoked like a
> chimney. No, better make that a smokestack. The walls are yellow
> from the smoke, coats and coats of kilz (even premium) haven't been
> enough to hide it.
>
> So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
> this sort of environment?
>
> There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
> but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanx
> Renata

Hot water and amonia will clean the walls and probably the furniture
as well. No idea what amonia will do to the finish on the furniture
but SWMBO uses it every weeek on our hardwood floros with no ill
effects.

b

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

27/06/2007 6:31 AM

"I would use the traditional scrapping and sanding method."


However, if you're going to scrap the furniture, why bother to sand
it?

; )




JJ

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 10:58 PM

Tue, Jun 26, 2007, 9:01am [email protected] (Renata) doth query:
<snip>There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if
possible, but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
Suggestions?

If I was him, unless they're woth som decent money, I'd immediately
get rid of everyting he didn't want. Maybe thrift shop for the low
value stuff, antique shop for the higher end stuff, let someoelse worry
about 'em.

No answer off hand for the other pieces. I'd say pant, or
wallpaper, the house, if he plans on keeping it.



JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton

c

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 3:08 PM


>
>So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
>this sort of environment?
>
>There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
>but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>
Try gently wiping the pieces down with a clean rag with a bit of
solvent and a stiff paint brush in the crannies to lift the oils/tars.
Then wipe down with a damp cloth and dish soap to remove the solvent
and then rinse with a clean watered cloth. Alcohol on another rag to
remove any soap residue (assumes the finish is not shellac).

Pete

m

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 2:39 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
>>this sort of environment?
>>
>>There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
>>but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>>
> Try gently wiping the pieces down with a clean rag with a bit of
> solvent and a stiff paint brush in the crannies to lift the oils/tars.
> Then wipe down with a damp cloth and dish soap to remove the solvent
> and then rinse with a clean watered cloth. Alcohol on another rag to
> remove any soap residue (assumes the finish is not shellac).
>
> Pete

"So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
this sort of environment?"

In answer to the above, wiping down with a clean watered cloth and soft will
not do it.
The smoke, at this time, is probably imbedded in the furniture's finish and
pores of the wood.
Time, may take care of the smell. However if it was me doing the job I
would refinish the furniture.
I would use the traditional scrapping and sanding method.

RM

"Rick M"

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 5:48 PM

I highly recommend Murphy's Oil Soap. Had a similar issue with a secretary
my wife received from her grandparents ... her father thought we'd
refinished it when all we did was clean it with Murphy's. This is a
reproduction built in the 1920s and it's getting to be an antique in its own
right, so refinishing was certainly not in order.

HTH,

Rick


"Renata" wrote

> Friend is rehabbing his late mother's house, who smoked like a
> chimney. No, better make that a smokestack. The walls are yellow
> from the smoke, coats and coats of kilz (even premium) haven't been
> enough to hide it.
>
> So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
> this sort of environment?
>
> There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
> but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanx
> Renata

m

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

27/06/2007 6:44 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "I would use the traditional scrapping and sanding method."
>
>
> However, if you're going to scrap the furniture, why bother to sand
> it?
>
> ; )
If the furniture is not worth it why spent time and money to refurbish it.
You may have to pay to dispose of it?


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c

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

28/06/2007 6:16 AM

O
>
>In answer to the above, wiping down with a clean watered cloth and soft will
>not do it.
>The smoke, at this time, is probably imbedded in the furniture's finish and
>pores of the wood.
>Time, may take care of the smell. However if it was me doing the job I
>would refinish the furniture.
>I would use the traditional scrapping and sanding method.
>
>
Did you even bother to read the post? Or are you just shooting from
the lip (I mean hip)

Pete

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 6:00 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> The smoke, at this time, is probably imbedded in the furniture's finish and
> pores of the wood.
> Time, may take care of the smell. However if it was me doing the job I
> would refinish the furniture.

When I was 18, I bought a car from the Chimney family.

Three years later, I got rid of the car and it still stunk. <G>

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 11:58 PM

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:01:59 -0400, Renata <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Friend is rehabbing his late mother's house, who smoked like a
>chimney. No, better make that a smokestack. The walls are yellow
>from the smoke, coats and coats of kilz (even premium) haven't been
>enough to hide it.
>
>So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
>this sort of environment?
>
>There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
>but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>
>Suggestions?
>
>Thanx
>Renata

Mineral spirits and lots of elbow grease, then polish it with a
quality furniture wax. You could use Briwax, a mix of cleaners and
wax, comes in several colors and neutral.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Renata on 26/06/2007 9:01 AM

26/06/2007 9:09 AM


"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Friend is rehabbing his late mother's house, who smoked like a
> chimney. No, better make that a smokestack. The walls are yellow
> from the smoke, coats and coats of kilz (even premium) haven't been
> enough to hide it.
>
> So, what do you do to clean up the nice wood furniture that resided in
> this sort of environment?
>
> There's a few pieces that my friend would like to salvage if possible,
> but is at a loss as to how to clean them up.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanx
> Renata

Oddly, Kilz does not always cover every thing up. About 6 years ago a
friend and I took on a similar job. One double master vanity sink was
literally half full of cigarette ashes with burn marks all around the
perimeter of the bowl. All trim was yellow from the smoke and the walls
were yellow. Add to that the AC filter was completely plugged, NO air
movement through the vent until we removed the filter. Add that she was an
alcoholic and carpet stains that were so bad that you would swear that there
was at least one fatality by gun shot. We simply hated to even walk into
the house. Fortunately she had moved out and we left the windows open.

We however had no problem covering the stains on the walls and trim. No
primer needed but we did use a premium oil based alkyd paint on the trim and
a premium latex on the walls. We did however often have to reapply a second
coat to the walls a couple of days later. 3 weeks later the house looked
much better. The house did not smell better until the carpet was removed
and replaced.


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