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[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

07/10/2004 12:37 AM

TS-Aligner Fall Special Offer

Hi Folks,

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

If you purchased a Jr., Jr. Deluxe, or Sr. during the last 30 days
don't kick yourself (or get mad at me)! I've got one for you too. I
will be arriving in your mailbox soon.

There's only so many of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
available. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
special then the time to act is NOW!

Yes, if you are a member of the self appointed spam police force, you
probably have the right to cry foul. Sorry, I don't know how to offer
this special thanks to the members of rec.woodworking without posting
a message like this. And, I'll re-post it periodically until the
angle blocks are all gone. Then I'll probably post a final message to
let people know that the special is ended. I hope you can grit your
teeth and resist your flaming instincts long enough to endure it.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner


This topic has 21 replies

UC

"U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles Krug"@cdksystems.com>

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

08/10/2004 3:27 PM

> [email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Folks,
<snipped>
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>

Ed

You should put the high-end gages on the price list with the TS Junior.
A dial indicator is on my wish list. Starrett.

But the full TS-aligner is a lot of money for a single-purpose tool.

Synergy, right?

*looks for some emerald bauble with which to distract SWMBO*


mm

"mp"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

07/10/2004 8:57 PM

> Yes, if you are a member of the self appointed spam police force, you
> probably have the right to cry foul.

On the contrary. This is the best spam I've read all day.

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

08/10/2004 2:25 PM

Hi Mike,

I guess it never occurred to me that such a paragraph would demean my
products. I figured that acknowledging the perceived "crime" ahead of
time would take some of the wind out of their sails. That way, people
wouldn't have to wade through the flames/trolls while trying to digest
my offer. Perhaps I fugured wrong but it seems to have worked so far!
I hope nobody feels that my products are somehow sub-standard as a
result. I'm not sure that I see the connection.

There are probably a lot of things I could do to make myself seem more
professional. For the most part, I've learned that it's better to
avoid being pretentious. I used to do all sorts of things to make my
company seem like a lot more than it is. But, there's just something
cold and unfriendly about companies which put up a formal wall of
"professional" behavior. I didn't like the effect it had on people
either. They can do some pretty undesirable things when they they are
met with cold professionalism. I much prefer the personal touch and I
think that people respond a lot better when they can have direct
access to a real person who actually invented and made their product.
They learn pretty quickly that I'm precise and exacting in everything
I do - I don't have to advertise it.

I appreciate the feedback.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
home of the TS-Aligner



[email protected] (Mike) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> My only question is, why add the above paragraph? It only serves to
> antagonize would-be flamers and demeans your product. Why not post
> your offer, answer legitimate questions, and ignore the flames/trolls?
> I'll bet that would seem more professional to most readers and
> potential customers. Just M.O.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

08/10/2004 3:06 PM

Hi Charles,

I can put a Starrett on the Jr., no problem. It really is a very fine
combination. I don't put it up on the web site because most people
wouldn't be interested in paying so much for a Jr. Basically, it's a
Jr. sans indicator ($121.95) plus the Starrett ($89) for a total of
$210.95. Still interested? Let me know.

I'm not sure what you mean by "single-purpose", the "Sr." is a very
general purpose alignment tool. Yes, it does cost a lot. But, those
people who truely need it understand its value quite well. I
generally try to dissuade homeshop customers from buying a Sr. This
really is one of those situations where the words "industrial" and
"professional" actually mean something. There are specific
disadvantages for the non-professional trying to use this product on
smaller homeshop machinery without much knowledge or experience. The
bigger sale is no advantage to me if I end up having to pacify lots of
complaints about how it doesn't work well on their 6" bench jointer
and how I should have explained every step of how to adjust the
alignment of their particular brand/model miter saw.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

"U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles" <"Charles Krug"@cdksystems.com> wrote in message news:<%ly9d.88$5N6.33@trndny08>...

> Ed
>
> You should put the high-end gages on the price list with the TS Junior.
> A dial indicator is on my wish list. Starrett.
>
> But the full TS-aligner is a lot of money for a single-purpose tool.
>
> Synergy, right?
>
> *looks for some emerald bauble with which to distract SWMBO*

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

13/10/2004 11:47 PM

Hi Folks,

As promised, here's another reminder...

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

If you purchased a Jr., Jr. Deluxe, or Sr. 30 days before I first
announced this special, don't kick yourself (or get mad at me)! I've
got one for you too. It will be arriving in your mailbox soon.

There's only so many of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
available. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
special then the time to act is NOW!

I'll re-post it periodically until the angle blocks are all gone.
Then I'll probably post a final message to let people know that the
special is ended. Asbestos underwear is standing by just in case ;-)

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

15/10/2004 1:43 PM

Hi Mike,

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I was wondering if you received my
reply. Let me know what I can do to help.

Thanks,
Ed

[email protected] (Mike at American Sycamore) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hey Ed:
>
> I sure would not let it bother you in any way....half the people can
> not figure out that this is a woodworking forum and not a politic or
> pet forum. I was very interested in your offer and thank-you for the
> special. I hope to take advantage of your sale. At least it is about
> woodworking!!! Just my opinin. thanks,Mike

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

15/10/2004 2:22 PM

Hi Rob,

Good to hear from you! And, thanks for the words of encouragement. I
do my best and never seem to get tired of hearing how people
appreciate the effort.

Here's a new review, just published today:

http://benchmark.20m.com/reviews/TS_AlignerJr/TS_AlignerJr_Review.html

I'll get it linked into the web site "Testimonials" page this weekend.

Have fun doing your jointer. I've been contemplating doing some
specialized videos focusing on one machine at a time. Seems like a
lot of magazines and books contain rather sketchy and often misguided
information on the topic, especially with regard to jointers. I'm all
ears if you have questions or comments. I do these things by second
nature and hardly think about what I should include. Just when I
think something is plain and obvious I receive an email from someone
who misses it completely. Videos might just be the ticket.

Thanks,
Ed.

"Rob Stokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<4NGbd.4066$cr4.3805@edtnps84>...
> Ed:
>
> I pulled my TS Aligner Jr off the shelf the other day, used it to align my
> contractors saw after it had been disassembled and moved to the new house
> (was 0.030" out across the length of the blade). Had it all done including
> the fence in 10 minutes. I hadn;t even warmed up the parts yet. This
> weekend, it's on to the jointer. FWIW, I consider this to be one of the
> "core" tools in the shop...nicely done and once again I was glad I grabbed
> it from you.
>
> Oh...that 45° angle block sits on the saw all time. I don't trust the saw
> stops for setting the tilt so I use the block. I'm nuts on in seconds...
> Thanks again Ed!!
>
> And for those who may be wondering, nope, Ed didn't pay me to say this :).
> In fact, I paid full price for my kit some three years ago now. I just
> appreciate a good tool that's well engineered, well built, well, priced,
> well packed, well instructed, does what it says it's going to do and does it
> well.
>
> Rob
>

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

16/10/2004 1:44 PM

GerryG <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I also bought the 45 deg block from Ed, and that alone handles most setup. To
> save some money, I bought a cheaper full set of precision angle blocks
> elsewhere. They were cheap enough that I figured it was worth a gamble. Turns
> out they had a slight burr, removed with 600 grit paper. Then measuring each
> one with the TS-aligner, everything was in perfect agreement. This was maybe 4
> years ago, but I think less than 25 for the full set.

This is a pretty good option for saving lots of money. Some of the
cheaper import angle sets are pretty good (some are dogs!). There
might be some minor defect (like the burr that Gerry encountered) but
it's pretty eaily corrected. Just like Gerry, you can use your Jr. to
check the accuracy of each block and you won't be out too much money
if you end up with some dogs.

I try to offer some value in my angle blocks that you can't get with
any other set. The first advantage is that they are larger. You're
not going to find another set offering 4" angle blocks in this price
range. Starrett's Toolroom grade set has 4" blocks (5/8" thick!) but
it will set you back more than $3K! All the low cost sets are 3" (or
smaller). If you only use them with a Jr. for blade tilt, then this
won't be an issue. Also, the accuracy of my angle blocks is
guaranteed. I check them against a set of the finest laboratory grade
angle gage blocks around: Starrett Laboratory Master AG 16.LM. If a
block isn't accurate, it doesn't leave the shop. There's never any
guessing!

> Also then cut a square of melamine a bit larger than the aligner base, and cut
> 3 stopped holes for the bearings. The melamine is fairly flat, but that
> doesn't really matter since the aligner is zeroed after mounting. This gives a
> stable base that doesn't depend on a miter slot, and doesn't need you to
> remove the aligner bearings to use it. With this I set up the router table
> fence, the BS and DP. Switching the dial indicator vertically, this becomes
> the fastest and easiest way I've found to adjust the jointer knives. By just
> taping down lightly with a wood block back and forth. I can quickly get all
> the knives perfectly level with each other.

It doesn't take much to remove and re-install the bearings. But, the
melamine base is a good idea that can save you a couple of minutes for
those machines without miter slots. Easy to make, cheap, and easy to
use. You'll want to make sure it's flat enough to avoid any rocking.
Good idea Gerry!

Ed

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

16/10/2004 1:54 PM

Hi Patrick,

The plan is to offer the videos for sale separately. One video for
each machine. I don't want to burden the cost of an Aligner with
videos that some people may not need. Perhaps they are already
familiar with how to align a particular machine, or maybe they don't
even own one. It's a pretty expensive proposition so the $0.01 + SH
deal that I offer for the regular video won't be possible for these.

Ed.

patrick conroy <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> That'd be me... Please consider doing a video. Heck - bump the price
> if you must.
>
> I'm one of those Visual Learners. I can read about it day and night,
> but really prefer to see someone else do it.

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

21/10/2004 9:28 AM

Hi Folks,

As promised, here's another reminder...

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

If you purchased a Jr., Jr. Deluxe, or Sr. 30 days before I first
announced this special, don't kick yourself (or get mad at me)! I've
got one for you too. It will be arriving in your mailbox soon.

There's only so many of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
available. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
special then the time to act is NOW!

I'll re-post it periodically until the angle blocks are all gone.
Then I'll probably post a final message to let people know that the
special is ended. Asbestos underwear is standing by just in case ;-)

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

29/10/2004 10:34 AM

Hi Folks,

As promised, here's another reminder...

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

There's only so many of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
available. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
special then the time to act is NOW!

I'll re-post this message periodically until the angle blocks are all
gone. Then I'll probably post a final message to let people know that
the special is ended. Asbestos underwear is standing by just in
case ;-)

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

08/11/2004 3:15 PM

Hi Folks,

As promised, here's another reminder...maybe the last!

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

There's only a few of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
left. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
special then the time to act is NOW!

I'll re-post this message if there are any angle blocks left next
week. If I run out before then I'll post a message announcing the end
of the special.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

eE

[email protected] (Ed Bennett)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

15/11/2004 12:32 PM

Hi Folks,

OK, this will be the last reminder! I'm sure the last of the free
angle blocks will be gone in the next few days. Once they are gone,
the special offer is over.

In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
the free 45 degree angle block offer!

Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.

These angle blocks are made from the same hardened tool steel ground
to the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle
blocks. However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for
sale. The supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I
don't have plans to bring them back at any specific future date.
People still ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of
years ago. If you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret
missing the last special then the time to act is NOW!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Ed Bennett
[email protected]

http://www.ts-aligner.com
Home of the TS-Aligner

GP

"Grant P. Beagles"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

12/10/2004 8:45 AM

I have a TS Aligner Jr. The tool does more than set up a table saw fence.
I used it to set the 0 and 45 degree stops. When I get a new blade, I
check it's runout. I have used it to check the runout of my drill pres.
The tool can be used to see if the drill press table is perpendicular to
the quill. There are a couple of other things in the instructions that I
haven't tried yet. If I could have afforded it when I bought the aligner,
I would have gotten a set of the precision angle blocks as well. (I did
get a 45 degree block.)

Regards,
Grant




U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles wrote:

> > [email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hi Folks,
> <snipped>
> >
> > Let me know if you have any questions.
> >
>
> Ed
>
> You should put the high-end gages on the price list with the TS Junior.
> A dial indicator is on my wish list. Starrett.
>
> But the full TS-aligner is a lot of money for a single-purpose tool.
>
> Synergy, right?
>
> *looks for some emerald bauble with which to distract SWMBO*

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

15/10/2004 2:41 AM

Ed:

I pulled my TS Aligner Jr off the shelf the other day, used it to align my
contractors saw after it had been disassembled and moved to the new house
(was 0.030" out across the length of the blade). Had it all done including
the fence in 10 minutes. I hadn;t even warmed up the parts yet. This
weekend, it's on to the jointer. FWIW, I consider this to be one of the
"core" tools in the shop...nicely done and once again I was glad I grabbed
it from you.

Oh...that 45° angle block sits on the saw all time. I don't trust the saw
stops for setting the tilt so I use the block. I'm nuts on in seconds...
Thanks again Ed!!

And for those who may be wondering, nope, Ed didn't pay me to say this :).
In fact, I paid full price for my kit some three years ago now. I just
appreciate a good tool that's well engineered, well built, well, priced,
well packed, well instructed, does what it says it's going to do and does it
well.

Rob

--


http://www.robswoodworking.com

"Ed Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Folks,
>
> As promised, here's another reminder...
>
> In appreciation for all the help and encouragement that members of
> rec.woodworking have given me over the years, I'm happy to bring back
> the free 45 degree angle block offer!
>
> Last Summer I was anticipating a slow down in business so I prepared a
> whole bunch of smaller (3") 45 degree angle blocks to use for a
> special promotion. But, the slow down never happened. So, I've
> decided to give them away with the purchase of a TS-Aligner Jr.,
> TS-Aligner Jr. Deluxe, or Industrial TS-Aligner (the "Sr."). Sorry, I
> just can't afford to include one with the purchase of a Jr. Lite.
>
> If you purchased a Jr., Jr. Deluxe, or Sr. 30 days before I first
> announced this special, don't kick yourself (or get mad at me)! I've
> got one for you too. It will be arriving in your mailbox soon.
>
> There's only so many of these free 3" 45 degree angle blocks
> available. They are made from the same hardened tool steel ground to
> the same exacting accuracy as my regular (much larger) angle blocks.
> However, they aren't the same angle blocks and are not for sale. The
> supply is limited so once they are gone, they are gone. I don't have
> plans to bring them back at any specific future date. People still
> ask about the free angle blocks I offered a couple of years ago. If
> you are interested in getting an Aligner and regret missing the last
> special then the time to act is NOW!
>
> I'll re-post it periodically until the angle blocks are all gone.
> Then I'll probably post a final message to let people know that the
> special is ended. Asbestos underwear is standing by just in case ;-)
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Bennett
> [email protected]
>
> http://www.ts-aligner.com
> Home of the TS-Aligner

aM

[email protected] (Mike at American Sycamore)

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

12/10/2004 2:27 PM

[email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I guess it never occurred to me that such a paragraph would demean my
> products. I figured that acknowledging the perceived "crime" ahead of
> time would take some of the wind out of their sails. That way, people
> wouldn't have to wade through the flames/trolls while trying to digest
> my offer. Perhaps I fugured wrong but it seems to have worked so far!
> I hope nobody feels that my products are somehow sub-standard as a
> result. I'm not sure that I see the connection.
>
> There are probably a lot of things I could do to make myself seem more
> professional. For the most part, I've learned that it's better to
> avoid being pretentious. I used to do all sorts of things to make my
> company seem like a lot more than it is. But, there's just something
> cold and unfriendly about companies which put up a formal wall of
> "professional" behavior. I didn't like the effect it had on people
> either. They can do some pretty undesirable things when they they are
> met with cold professionalism. I much prefer the personal touch and I
> think that people respond a lot better when they can have direct
> access to a real person who actually invented and made their product.
> They learn pretty quickly that I'm precise and exacting in everything
> I do - I don't have to advertise it.
>
> I appreciate the feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Bennett
> [email protected]
>
> http://www.ts-aligner.com
> home of the TS-Aligner
>
>
>
> [email protected] (Mike) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > My only question is, why add the above paragraph? It only serves to
> > antagonize would-be flamers and demeans your product. Why not post
> > your offer, answer legitimate questions, and ignore the flames/trolls?
> > I'll bet that would seem more professional to most readers and
> > potential customers. Just M.O.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike

Hey Ed:

I sure would not let it bother you in any way....half the people can
not figure out that this is a woodworking forum and not a politic or
pet forum. I was very interested in your offer and thank-you for the
special. I hope to take advantage of your sale. At least it is about
woodworking!!! Just my opinin. thanks,Mike

hM

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

08/10/2004 7:46 AM

[email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Folks,
<snipped>
> Yes, if you are a member of the self appointed spam police force, you
> probably have the right to cry foul. Sorry, I don't know how to offer
> this special thanks to the members of rec.woodworking without posting
> a message like this. And, I'll re-post it periodically until the
> angle blocks are all gone. Then I'll probably post a final message to
> let people know that the special is ended. I hope you can grit your
> teeth and resist your flaming instincts long enough to endure it.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.

My only question is, why add the above paragraph? It only serves to
antagonize would-be flamers and demeans your product. Why not post
your offer, answer legitimate questions, and ignore the flames/trolls?
I'll bet that would seem more professional to most readers and
potential customers. Just M.O.

Cheers,
Mike

hM

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

19/10/2004 12:53 PM

[email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I guess it never occurred to me that such a paragraph would demean my
> products. I figured that acknowledging the perceived "crime" ahead of
> time would take some of the wind out of their sails. That way, people
> wouldn't have to wade through the flames/trolls while trying to digest
> my offer. Perhaps I fugured wrong but it seems to have worked so far!
> I hope nobody feels that my products are somehow sub-standard as a
> result. I'm not sure that I see the connection.

> There are probably a lot of things I could do to make myself seem more
> professional. For the most part, I've learned that it's better to
> avoid being pretentious. I used to do all sorts of things to make my
> company seem like a lot more than it is. But, there's just something
> cold and unfriendly about companies which put up a formal wall of
> "professional" behavior. I didn't like the effect it had on people
> either. They can do some pretty undesirable things when they they are
> met with cold professionalism. I much prefer the personal touch and I
> think that people respond a lot better when they can have direct
> access to a real person who actually invented and made their product.
> They learn pretty quickly that I'm precise and exacting in everything
> I do - I don't have to advertise it.

Based on the testimonies of several wreckers, your products seem to be
very high quality. My post was more marketing opinion than
engineering skeptism. In a discussion on another board, somebody was
trying to provoke a flamewar with Robin Lee regarding Veritas
products. Although he may have felt the urge to confront the troll,
Rob responded quite professionally. Of course, what constitutes
professional behavior is a matter of opinion but I'll bet everyone who
read those posts feels Rob's responses were appropriate. My point to
you was that, in _my_ opinion, trollers and flamers are best left to
die from lack of attention rather than being confronted with anger,
especially when the object of the troll/flames is promoting a product.
That's just my opinion. When I get my shop a bit more equipped, I
will most likely consider your product line. I need all the help I
can get. :-)

Cheers,
Mike



> I appreciate the feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Bennett
> [email protected]
>
> http://www.ts-aligner.com
> home of the TS-Aligner
>
>
>
> [email protected] (Mike) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > My only question is, why add the above paragraph? It only serves to
> > antagonize would-be flamers and demeans your product. Why not post
> > your offer, answer legitimate questions, and ignore the flames/trolls?
> > I'll bet that would seem more professional to most readers and
> > potential customers. Just M.O.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike

pc

patrick conroy

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

18/10/2004 9:04 PM

On 16 Oct 2004 13:54:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote:

>
>
>Hi Patrick,
>
>The plan is to offer the videos for sale separately. One video for

Perfect! Thanks Ed...

Don't forget to add the entertaining "out-takes" at the end.
Everyone's doing that now. Maybe stuff like: an out-of-balance
Bridgeport walking across the shop floor; or you KO'ing the
PuzzleCraft dude... :)

Gg

GerryG

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

15/10/2004 3:11 PM

I also bought the 45 deg block from Ed, and that alone handles most setup. To
save some money, I bought a cheaper full set of precision angle blocks
elsewhere. They were cheap enough that I figured it was worth a gamble. Turns
out they had a slight burr, removed with 600 grit paper. Then measuring each
one with the TS-aligner, everything was in perfect agreement. This was maybe 4
years ago, but I think less than 25 for the full set.

Also then cut a square of melamine a bit larger than the aligner base, and cut
3 stopped holes for the bearings. The melamine is fairly flat, but that
doesn't really matter since the aligner is zeroed after mounting. This gives a
stable base that doesn't depend on a miter slot, and doesn't need you to
remove the aligner bearings to use it. With this I set up the router table
fence, the BS and DP. Switching the dial indicator vertically, this becomes
the fastest and easiest way I've found to adjust the jointer knives. By just
taping down lightly with a wood block back and forth. I can quickly get all
the knives perfectly level with each other.

GerryG

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:45:09 -0500, "Grant P. Beagles"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a TS Aligner Jr. The tool does more than set up a table saw fence.
>I used it to set the 0 and 45 degree stops. When I get a new blade, I
>check it's runout. I have used it to check the runout of my drill pres.
>The tool can be used to see if the drill press table is perpendicular to
>the quill. There are a couple of other things in the instructions that I
>haven't tried yet. If I could have afforded it when I bought the aligner,
>I would have gotten a set of the precision angle blocks as well. (I did
>get a 45 degree block.)
>
>Regards,
>Grant
>
>
>
>
>U-CDK_CHARLES\\Charles wrote:
>
>> > [email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote in message
>> > news:<[email protected]>...
>> > Hi Folks,
>> <snipped>
>> >
>> > Let me know if you have any questions.
>> >
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> You should put the high-end gages on the price list with the TS Junior.
>> A dial indicator is on my wish list. Starrett.
>>
>> But the full TS-aligner is a lot of money for a single-purpose tool.
>>
>> Synergy, right?
>>
>> *looks for some emerald bauble with which to distract SWMBO*

pc

patrick conroy

in reply to [email protected] (Ed Bennett) on 07/10/2004 12:37 AM

16/10/2004 12:05 AM

On 15 Oct 2004 14:22:57 -0700, [email protected] (Ed Bennett) wrote:

>
>nature and hardly think about what I should include. Just when I
>think something is plain and obvious I receive an email from someone
>who misses it completely. Videos might just be the ticket.

That'd be me... Please consider doing a video. Heck - bump the price
if you must.

I'm one of those Visual Learners. I can read about it day and night,
but really prefer to see someone else do it.


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