Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from China.
Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work and
the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer looked
at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring that hooks to the
hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded. I explained
this to the customer but of course it couldn't be her problem since she
bought a cheap piece of crap from China. Doubt I will ever get a call from
her again.
Rich
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In article <bVKUj.101436$TT4.32152@attbi_s22>, Woodie <[email protected]> wrote:
>PCPaul wrote:
>> I was trying to take apart something with a headless screw a while ago. I
>> dremel'd a slot in the head but the screwdriver just spun it round and
>> didn't unscrew it. In the end I had to get some pincers on it and just
>> pull it straight out.
>>
>> I was surprised - it had no thread at all on it! Now who would make a
>> thing like that?
>
>A nail manufacturer?
Dammit, Woodie, you owe me new monitor.
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In article <[email protected]>, J. Clarke
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well grinding organs would come under those anyway . . .
Yipes, C&C warning!
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"evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kTjUj.15408$sp.1742@trnddc02=20
> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
> China. Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather
> large mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring
> my work and the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger
> bracket broke. I caught it just in time before it crashed to the
> floor. The customer looked at me like I was an idiot. Upon further
> review the ring that hooks to the hanger on the wall completely
> separated. It was not welded. I explained this to the customer but of
> course it couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of
> crap from China. Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
You can end up with cheap crap no matter where it's
made if your only criteria is that it be the least
expensive. =20
Did the packaging specify weight limit?
Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote in news:uWtUj.38$Hh.25
@trndny01:
> evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> One other note. I have set my clutch settings on my cordless real low
>> when driving MADE IN CHINA screws. Headless screws don't hold very
>> well!!!
>
> BTDT!
>
As someone who's dealt with headless screws a few times, I can tell you
that they hold as well as the kind with heads. Sometimes I get lucky and
there's only one in the pieces of wood I'm taking apart, and I can twist
them loose. Once I wound up using a hole saw to cut a hole AROUND the
headless screw to get the boards seperated.
Sometimes you've gotta laugh so you don't cry...
Puckdropper
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Leon wrote:
>
> "evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:CpkUj.15411$sp.11529@trnddc02...
>> Greg Neill wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
>> It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket supplied
>> with
>> the mirror that broke.
>
>
> Lesson learned, I seldom use supplied hardware for that very reason. I
> use MY screws too.
Headless screws don't hold very well. You might want to look at your clutch
setting on your drill driver before you drive them to.
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Greg Neill wrote:
> "evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:kTjUj.15408$sp.1742@trnddc02
>> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
>> China. Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather
>> large mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring
>> my work and the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger
>> bracket broke. I caught it just in time before it crashed to the
>> floor. The customer looked at me like I was an idiot. Upon further
>> review the ring that hooks to the hanger on the wall completely
>> separated. It was not welded. I explained this to the customer but of
>> course it couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of
>> crap from China. Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
>
> You can end up with cheap crap no matter where it's
> made if your only criteria is that it be the least
> expensive.
>
> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket supplied with
the mirror that broke.
--
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but you can't make them THINK"
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 08:16:33 +0000, Puckdropper wrote:
> Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:uWtUj.38$Hh.25 @trndny01:
>
>> evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> One other note. I have set my clutch settings on my cordless real low
>>> when driving MADE IN CHINA screws. Headless screws don't hold very
>>> well!!!
>>
>> BTDT!
>>
>>
> As someone who's dealt with headless screws a few times, I can tell you
> that they hold as well as the kind with heads. Sometimes I get lucky
> and there's only one in the pieces of wood I'm taking apart, and I can
> twist them loose. Once I wound up using a hole saw to cut a hole AROUND
> the headless screw to get the boards seperated.
>
> Sometimes you've gotta laugh so you don't cry...
>
> Puckdropper
I was trying to take apart something with a headless screw a while ago. I
dremel'd a slot in the head but the screwdriver just spun it round and
didn't unscrew it. In the end I had to get some pincers on it and just
pull it straight out.
I was surprised - it had no thread at all on it! Now who would make a
thing like that?
Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like buying and using your own brackets would solve the problem.
> Price them into the job.
An expensive lesson. Thanks to the OP for telling us all.
Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> As someone who's dealt with headless screws a few times, I can tell
> you that they hold as well as the kind with heads. Sometimes I get
> lucky and there's only one in the pieces of wood I'm taking apart, and
> I can twist them loose. Once I wound up using a hole saw to cut a
> hole AROUND the headless screw to get the boards seperated.
>
> Sometimes you've gotta laugh so you don't cry...
Never hide a screw in a glue joint, if you expect to take the piece apart
later (DAMHIKT)...
evodawg wrote:
> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Greg Neill wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You can end up with cheap crap no matter where it's
>>>> made if your only criteria is that it be the least
>>>> expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
>>> It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket
>>> supplied with the mirror that broke.
>>
>> Sounds like buying and using your own brackets would solve the problem.
>> Price them into the job.
>
>
> I don't think y'all are understanding my point. Installers are becoming
> responsible for lousy cheaply built crap, (NOT JUST BRACKETS,duh) they
> have no control over. I knew this bracket was probably going to be a
> problem but this work is not normally what I do so I don't stock this
> stuff. So its getting to the point that you better inspect everything you
> install that's built in China and stock only made in USA replacements,
> brilliant solution. If you don't and it fails it will be your fault. Not
> the fault of the customer for buying cheap ass shit to begin with.
>
> OBTW I went to buy a replacement brackets for the mirror and guess what? I
> could only find made in CHICOM crap. I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One other note. I have set my clutch settings on my cordless real low when
driving MADE IN CHINA screws. Headless screws don't hold very well!!!
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but you can't make them THINK"
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J. Clarke wrote:
> PCPaul wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:42:44 +0000, Woodie wrote:
>>
>>> PCPaul wrote:
>>>> That's right, clap for the monkey not the organ grinder :-(
>>>>
>>>> (No offence, Woodie ;-)
>>> None taken. Some of my ancestors were monkeys...
>>
>> *Some* of?
>>
>> Careful, you're straying close to our new nanny-state 'extreme porn'
>> laws...
>
> Well grinding organs would come under those anyway . . .
ROTFL!
"evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:CpkUj.15411$sp.11529@trnddc02...
> Greg Neill wrote:
>
>>
>> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
> It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket supplied
> with
> the mirror that broke.
Lesson learned, I seldom use supplied hardware for that very reason. I use
MY screws too.
PCPaul wrote:
> I was trying to take apart something with a headless screw a while ago. I
> dremel'd a slot in the head but the screwdriver just spun it round and
> didn't unscrew it. In the end I had to get some pincers on it and just
> pull it straight out.
>
> I was surprised - it had no thread at all on it! Now who would make a
> thing like that?
A nail manufacturer?
Lee Michaels wrote:
> I was mounting a mirror on a bathroom wall. This was because the original
> mounts have broken away and it was barely staying on the wall. I bought the
> most expensive mirror mounts I could find. I installed numerous mounts
> around the thing. I come back the next day and some of them had broken off.
> I bought some more and installed them. Finally, it was enough.
I framed my 32" square mirror and mounted it to the studs using four
pairs of these:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=40349&cat=3,43715,43716
I could probably do chinups on it without any concerns of it falling
down, and it comes off the wall simply by lifting it straight up.
Chris
PCPaul wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:42:44 +0000, Woodie wrote:
>
>> PCPaul wrote:
>>>
>>> That's right, clap for the monkey not the organ grinder :-(
>>>
>>> (No offence, Woodie ;-)
>>
>> None taken. Some of my ancestors were monkeys...
>
>
> *Some* of?
>
> Careful, you're straying close to our new nanny-state 'extreme porn'
> laws...
Well grinding organs would come under those anyway . . .
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evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greg Neill wrote:
>
>> "evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:kTjUj.15408$sp.1742@trnddc02
>>> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
>>> China. Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a
>>> rather large mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there
>>> admiring my work and the customer standing there to, one side of the
>>> hanger bracket broke. I caught it just in time before it crashed to
>>> the floor. The customer looked at me like I was an idiot. Upon
>>> further review the ring that hooks to the hanger on the wall
>>> completely separated. It was not welded. I explained this to the
>>> customer but of course it couldn't be her problem since she bought a
>>> cheap piece of crap from China. Doubt I will ever get a call from
>>> her again.
>>
>> You can end up with cheap crap no matter where it's
>> made if your only criteria is that it be the least
>> expensive.
>>
>> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
> It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket
> supplied with the mirror that broke.
Sounds like buying and using your own brackets would solve the problem.
Price them into the job.
Lobby Dosser wrote:
> evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Greg Neill wrote:
>>>
>>> You can end up with cheap crap no matter where it's
>>> made if your only criteria is that it be the least
>>> expensive.
>>>
>>> Did the packaging specify weight limit?
>> It was not the bracket I bought to hang it. It was the bracket
>> supplied with the mirror that broke.
>
> Sounds like buying and using your own brackets would solve the problem.
> Price them into the job.
I don't think y'all are understanding my point. Installers are becoming
responsible for lousy cheaply built crap, (NOT JUST BRACKETS,duh) they have
no control over. I knew this bracket was probably going to be a problem but
this work is not normally what I do so I don't stock this stuff. So its
getting to the point that you better inspect everything you install that's
built in China and stock only made in USA replacements, brilliant solution.
If you don't and it fails it will be your fault. Not the fault of the
customer for buying cheap ass shit to begin with.
OBTW I went to buy a replacement brackets for the mirror and guess what? I
could only find made in CHICOM crap. I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
"evodawg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kTjUj.15408$sp.1742@trnddc02...
> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
> China.
> Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
> mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work
> and
> the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
> caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer looked
> at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring that hooks to the
> hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded. I explained
> this to the customer but of course it couldn't be her problem since she
> bought a cheap piece of crap from China. Doubt I will ever get a call from
> her again.
>
I know of what you speak.
I was mounting a mirror on a bathroom wall. This was because the original
mounts have broken away and it was barely staying on the wall. I bought the
most expensive mirror mounts I could find. I installed numerous mounts
around the thing. I come back the next day and some of them had broken off.
I bought some more and installed them. Finally, it was enough.
All that cheap crap just doesn't do the job.
Chris Friesen wrote:
> Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>> I was mounting a mirror on a bathroom wall. This was because the original
>> mounts have broken away and it was barely staying on the wall. I bought
>> the
>> most expensive mirror mounts I could find. I installed numerous mounts
>> around the thing. I come back the next day and some of them had broken
>> off.
>> I bought some more and installed them. Finally, it was enough.
>
> I framed my 32" square mirror and mounted it to the studs using four
> pairs of these:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=1&p=40349&cat=3,43715,43716
>
> I could probably do chinups on it without any concerns of it falling
> down, and it comes off the wall simply by lifting it straight up.
>
> Chris
I've used something similar for hanging cabinets. They do hold!!!
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On Fri, 09 May 2008 00:08:56 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <bVKUj.101436$TT4.32152@attbi_s22>, Woodie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>PCPaul wrote:
>>> I was trying to take apart something with a headless screw a while
>>> ago. I dremel'd a slot in the head but the screwdriver just spun it
>>> round and didn't unscrew it. In the end I had to get some pincers on
>>> it and just pull it straight out.
>>>
>>> I was surprised - it had no thread at all on it! Now who would make a
>>> thing like that?
>>
>>A nail manufacturer?
>
> Dammit, Woodie, you owe me new monitor.
That's right, clap for the monkey not the organ grinder :-(
(No offence, Woodie ;-)
evodawg <[email protected]> wrote:
> One other note. I have set my clutch settings on my cordless real low
> when driving MADE IN CHINA screws. Headless screws don't hold very
> well!!!
BTDT!
On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:33:05 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
> PCPaul wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:42:44 +0000, Woodie wrote:
>>
>>> PCPaul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's right, clap for the monkey not the organ grinder :-(
>>>>
>>>> (No offence, Woodie ;-)
>>>
>>> None taken. Some of my ancestors were monkeys...
>>
>>
>> *Some* of?
>>
>> Careful, you're straying close to our new nanny-state 'extreme porn'
>> laws...
>
> Well grinding organs would come under those anyway . . .
>
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