Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
road.
There were two other kids in the car. She and the front passenger
walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. The girl
in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
wrist. No broken bones, no stitches. Had there been a kid in the
left rear seat, they would have died.
Other people on the road stopped and helped. The hurt girl was
bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. She came home from the
emergency room last night.
The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
-Zz
In article <[email protected]>, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Two fatalities from deer in the face in my experience.
You mean you've been killed twice by getting a deer in the face??
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>She was hugging
> the yellow line to avoid the shoulder. A big pick-up came from the
> other way, she moved to the right, just a tad too much, and the right
> front wheel caught the lip of the pavement. That was all it took.
>
> In the scheme of Loss Prevention Systems, the root cause of this
> incident was "lack of skill or knowledge".
Sounds like she need more road time with dad.
I mentioned CT doing some different things. They already forbid 16 yo to
have passengers and restrict night driving unless a parent is aboard. Talk
is to raise the age to 17, but that will be a struggle. Hours behind the
wheel is going to be increased also.
dgadams wrote:
> My twin 15 year old daughters just finished drivers ed and they do
> still show "Highways of Death" or as we called it in the day "Hair
> teeth and eyeballs on the freeway". My daughter gave me a scene by
> scene description. Yucky, but effective.
>
> D.G. Adams
I don't think the movie would have done much to improve my 29 yr. old
daughters "scary to me" driving.... in one of her "helpful moments" she
helped search the freeway shoulder for a guys leg after a nasty motorcycle
accident......nothing phases her.....My youngest nurse daughter would have
happily helped sew the thing back on.......Dinner conversation with them
either or both of them is not always a good thing. Rod
No injuries =3D a good lesson. Give your daughter a big hug and tell
her you love her. You can probably skip the yelling about the car.
You could always be creative, and mount the seat belt on a nice wooden
plaque for her birthday as a gift.
On Feb 18, 8:32=A0am, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
> rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
> road.
>
> There were two other kids in the car. =A0She and the front passenger
> walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. =A0The girl
> in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
> wrist. =A0No broken bones, no stitches. =A0Had there been a kid in the
> left rear seat, they would have died.
>
> Other people on the road stopped and helped. =A0The hurt girl was
> bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
> to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. =A0She came home from the
> emergency room last night.
>
> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>
> -Zz
On Feb 18, 2:23 pm, NoOne N Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
> <<<<<<<<< SNIPPAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> ...
>
> Anyway, we were driving home one night from a work site that was a
> couple of hundred miles from where we lived. We had to drive through
> some forested land we came to a "straight" section of the road. Just
> about the time he topped 100 mph, we saw a deer standing in the middle
> of the highway. He (my friend, not the deer) stood on the brakes and
> the car started leaving two loooooong strips of black rubber on the
> road. ...
A friend of my father used to work down the hall from a lab with
a dynanometer where they would test tires. Just for kicks, onse
they had completed all of their test work on a particular tire the
guys would run the machine up to 100 mph. A typical consumer
tire would delaminate within two minutes.
--
FF
Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 7:32am (EST-3) [email protected] (Zz=A0Yzx) doth
sayeth:
Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
rolled the Honda Accord <snip>
The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
It's not Great Woodworker, it's Woodworking Gods, and that's not
their job. Two sons, been there, done that; so don't bother getting on
my ass.
And, yeah, I read your other post. If she was that unsure of her
driving on a road like that, she should have either been driving slower,
or taken another route.
JOAT
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I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.
On Feb 18, 11:29 am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>...
>
> While I adamantly agree, it's tragic that sometimes it's just the opposite.
>
> My youngest went to a funeral for one of her sorority sisters last Friday
> morning. The young lady, who they'd just pledged the very afternoon of the
> accident, was burned to death because she could not get out of the seat belt
> after the car rolled and caught fire. The driver boyfriend, not wearing a
> seatbelt, was thrown out and survived, although it appears he will be
> paralyzed for life.
>
Evidently it is not uncommon for the force of an accident to
damage the seat belt buckle so that it will not release.
There are emergency extraction tools sold that include a
seat belt cutter. I have one small enough to go on a
keychain. I keep it tied to the parking brake release
instead.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8e0c/
There are large variations designed as a hammerlike
multitool, but those could not as easily be secured
close at hand
--
FF
On Feb 18, 2:35=A0pm, Fred the Red Shirt <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2:23 pm, NoOne N Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > <<<<<<<<< =A0 SNIPPAGE =A0>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> > ...
>
> > Anyway, we were driving home one night from a work site that was a
> > couple of hundred miles from where we lived. =A0We had to drive through
> > some forested land we came to a "straight" section of the road. =A0Just
> > about the time he topped 100 mph, we saw a deer standing in the middle
> > of the highway. =A0He (my friend, not the deer) stood on the brakes and
> > the car started leaving two loooooong strips of black rubber on the
> > road. =A0...
>
> A friend of my father used to work down the hall from a lab with
> a dynanometer where they would test tires. =A0Just for kicks, onse
> they had completed all of their test work on a particular tire the
> guys would run the machine up to 100 mph. =A0A typical consumer
> tire would delaminate within two minutes.
>
> --
>
> FF
With the narrow contact patch of a dyno drum and no airflow to do any
cooling...
100 MPH is still way too fast for most tires.
On Feb 18, 12:50=A0pm, Fred the Red Shirt <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:29 am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >...
>
> > While I adamantly agree, it's tragic that sometimes it's just the opposi=
te.
>
> > My youngest went to a funeral for one of her sorority sisters last Frida=
y
> > morning. The young lady, who they'd just pledged the very afternoon of t=
he
> > accident, was burned to death because she could not get out of the seat =
belt
> > after the car rolled and caught fire. The driver boyfriend, not wearing =
a
> > seat-belt, was thrown out and survived, although it appears he will be
> > paralyzed for life.
>
> Evidently it is not uncommon for the force of an accident to
> damage the seat belt buckle so that it will not release.
>
> There are emergency extraction tools sold that include a
> seat belt cutter. =A0I have one small enough to go on a
> keychain. =A0 =A0I keep it tied to the parking brake release
> instead.
>
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8e0c/
>
> There are large variations designed as a hammerlike
> multitool, but those could not as easily be secured
> close at hand
>
> =A0--
>
> FF
A client of mine gently rolled his Volvo into a field. I say gently,
because the road was elevated with rather steep banks. It was a gravel
road, and he swerved a bit and slammed on his brakes and drifted to
the side of the road where the car just barely rolled onto the roof.
Surprisingly little damage, just some cosmetic sheet metal. All the
glass even survived.
So I asked him about that rather nasty bump on his bald head. He told
me that happened after the accident. When he undid his seatbelt.
Way funnier if you knew the man, a psychiatrist of about 5 foot tall,
with a huge proboscis and then with a egg-sized bump on his head.
Guess you had to be there.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> The carnage that I witnessed on almost every trip as a kid, on our mostly
> two lane highways back then, still has me driving cautiously.
Where I grew up, there was tourists each summer with a lot of deer. The
damn tourists would crash into rock walls or drive over cliffs trying to
avoid hitting the deer. They almost always hit the deer and killed their
families in the process.
I learned early, if a deer jumps in front of the car, hang on tight to the
steering wheel. Slow down and take a big thump on the front of the vehicle.
And DO NOT swerve and kill everybody in the car.
You would think that they would cover this in drivers ed. But it is
probably politically incorrect to kill Bambi.
> And if that
> wasn't enough, in Driver's Ed in those days they also showed horror flicks
> of terrible wrecks, complete with blood and gore, at every opportunity
> during the course.
>
I will always remember that awful visual of the guy thrown from a high speed
wreck and hitting a chain link fence. A considerable amount of his flesh
and soft tissue was forced through the chain link fence. All the bones
stayed on the other side of the fence. At least a quarter or third of him
was strained through that wire mesh. I can still see it to this day.
And yes, I am very careful while driving. I lost a number of friends over
the years who never did grasp the idea of driver safety.
On Feb 18, 11:29=A0am, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> =A0... what do you wanna bet that no longer is the case because it would
> damage the self esteem of the coddled little yuppie puppies of today?
>
Wanna talk about the yuppies' little crotchfruit on skateboards...at
dusk, dressed in dark clothes and no lights?
How about their little Snowflake on a bicycle flying out of side
streets and then giving ME a dirty look because I gave them a little
Italian Airhorn?? Two very brave(stupid) ones, on skate boards, gave
me finger once and were soooo surprised to find me parked in front of
the house where one of them lived. They left little tornadoes, (a la
cartoon style departure), on take-off. Very funny to watch. I could
almost hear that Yogy Bear gunshot take-off sound.
r
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
> Glad is was not any worse. Seatbelts sure help.
Every parent's nightmare. I'm still shuddering thinking about the OP's
experience.
> Here is CT they are looking into taking drastic measures to minimize teen
> driving accidents. Quite a few deaths in the past year that could have
been
> easily prevented just by following the laws. .
While I adamantly agree, it's tragic that sometimes it's just the opposite.
My youngest went to a funeral for one of her sorority sisters last Friday
morning. The young lady, who they'd just pledged the very afternoon of the
accident, was burned to death because she could not get out of the seat belt
after the car rolled and caught fire. The driver boyfriend, not wearing a
seatbelt, was thrown out and survived, although it appears he will be
paralyzed for life.
A car, to most of the young folks driving today, is a god given
right/accessory, not considered any more dangerous than a cell phone or
iPod. Just watching them drive on the freeways around here, you come to the
inescapable conclusion that most have no concept whatsoever that a moments
inattention, in a machine that can kill you, often will ... or someone else.
The carnage that I witnessed on almost every trip as a kid, on our mostly
two lane highways back then, still has me driving cautiously. And if that
wasn't enough, in Driver's Ed in those days they also showed horror flicks
of terrible wrecks, complete with blood and gore, at every opportunity
during the course.
... what do you wanna bet that no longer is the case because it would
damage the self esteem of the coddled little yuppie puppies of today?
--
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:be342740-5d6c-4bbc-aa5b-e35ee6e1dc6e@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>
> If he really was looking after --- the crash wouldn't have happened in
> the first place.
Well sometimes we don't always understand why things happen. It happened
for a reason as does every thing else.
<<<<<<<<< SNIPPAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> The best strategy is probably as you suggest. Braking may give
> the animal time to get out of the way, and if not, will reduce the
> force
> of the impact.
>
I remember an incident in my youth involving a deer. My next door
neighbor had just taken possession of a new 1964 (I think) Ford with the
HP 390 and a four speed stick. He got it as an insurance settlement for
his other car that he had loaned to a friend, and this friend was killed
in it when he left the road at an estimated 120 mph.
Anyway, we were driving home one night from a work site that was a
couple of hundred miles from where we lived. We had to drive through
some forested land we came to a "straight" section of the road. Just
about the time he topped 100 mph, we saw a deer standing in the middle
of the highway. He (my friend, not the deer) stood on the brakes and
the car started leaving two loooooong strips of black rubber on the
road. These two strips started separating into four strips as the car
started to turn sideways. I can remember seeing the deer passing in
front of the windshield in slow motion as the car skidded past it. It
seems as though we were so close that there must have been some deer
hair stuck on the front of the car somewhere but we didn't see any.
Fortunately for us, we were on the straightest part of the road for
miles around and the car finally came to a stop. Nothing or no one
hurt. The rest of the trip home was quite a bit slower. And with two
pairs of VERY soiled shorts it was also a LOT smellier. But ever since
then I am much more watchful and careful in forested areas.
Wayne
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
> rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
> road.
>
> There were two other kids in the car. She and the front passenger
> walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. The girl
> in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
> wrist. No broken bones, no stitches. Had there been a kid in the
> left rear seat, they would have died.
>
> Other people on the road stopped and helped. The hurt girl was
> bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
> to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. She came home from the
> emergency room last night.
>
> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>
> -Zz
I believe that the "Great Woodworker" felt that there was a lesson to be
learned. He was kind enough to let the young'ens walk away with a healthy
new respect of what can happen.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> The carnage that I witnessed on almost every trip as a kid, on our mostly
> two lane highways back then, still has me driving cautiously. And if that
> wasn't enough, in Driver's Ed in those days they also showed horror flicks
> of terrible wrecks, complete with blood and gore, at every opportunity
> during the course.
Couple of deaths in this area recently. Girl was texting on her cell phone,
another was doing over 100 mph on a two lane, another was doing 80+ when he
hit a truck. Driver at 18 already had many moving violations.
Speed, alcohol, inattention keep coming up in the investigations.
Another case a few years ago was a couple of adults and the guy was killed.
Both were thrown from the car Law suit from the family is trying to say she
was driving and was liable. She had a defense though. She could not have
been driving because she was giving him a BJ when he hit the tree.
What a way to go.
On Feb 18, 3:20 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2:35 pm, Fred the Red Shirt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 18, 2:23 pm, NoOne N Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > <<<<<<<<< SNIPPAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> > > ...
>
> > > Anyway, we were driving home one night from a work site that was a
> > > couple of hundred miles from where we lived. We had to drive through
> > > some forested land we came to a "straight" section of the road. Just
> > > about the time he topped 100 mph, we saw a deer standing in the middle
> > > of the highway. He (my friend, not the deer) stood on the brakes and
> > > the car started leaving two loooooong strips of black rubber on the
> > > road. ...
>
> > A friend of my father used to work down the hall from a lab with
> > a dynanometer where they would test tires. Just for kicks, onse
> > they had completed all of their test work on a particular tire the
> > guys would run the machine up to 100 mph. A typical consumer
> > tire would delaminate within two minutes.
>
...
>
> With the narrow contact patch of a dyno drum and no airflow to do any
> cooling... 100 MPH is still way too fast for most tires.
I don't think the contact area is significantly less than on a
highway,
else there would be little point to testing on the machine in the
first
place.
Cooling is another matter, I wonder if they force air over the tire
being tested.
--
FF
On Feb 18, 11:48 am, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> ...
>
> I learned early, if a deer jumps in front of the car, hang on tight to the
> steering wheel. Slow down and take a big thump on the front of the vehicle.
> And DO NOT swerve and kill everybody in the car.
>
> You would think that they would cover this in drivers ed. But it is
> probably politically incorrect to kill Bambi.
>
They covered it when I took drivers' ed and I cannot count the number
of times I have read or heard the advice "Do not swerve to avoid
hitting an
animal".
A deer, horse, cow or other large, heavy and TALL animal, however,
can crash through the windshield and kill the occupants. So those
cases are a tough decision that has to be made without any time
to think.
The best strategy is probably as you suggest. Braking may give
the animal time to get out of the way, and if not, will reduce the
force
of the impact.
--
FF
On Feb 18, 10:32=A0am, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
> rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
> road.
>
> There were two other kids in the car. =A0She and the front passenger
> walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. =A0The girl
> in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
> wrist. =A0No broken bones, no stitches. =A0Had there been a kid in the
> left rear seat, they would have died.
>
> Other people on the road stopped and helped. =A0The hurt girl was
> bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
> to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. =A0She came home from the
> emergency room last night.
>
> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>
> -Zz
Excellent. Nothing teaches like a close call. It teaches safety and an
appreciation for your brood.. a signal to enjoy them to the max while
they are still with you.
I got a phone call at my office...15 years ago.. that my oldest was
hit from behind by a car. She had been on her bicycle. The cop told me
where it had happened so I had a bit of a feel that it wasn't minor.
Cars go pretty fast under that overpass. That is ALL he would tell me.
He told me what hospital she was in, and I quickly made a call to get
some details. They wouldn't tell me either.
That was the longest 25 minute drive of my life. I made a lot of
promises to God, my kid and myself during that 25 minutes. I think I'm
doing pretty good at keeping most of them. I caved on the beer thing..
I just wasn't thinking straight at the time.<G>
A little bruised, a bump on the back of her head. She had been thrown
over the car that hit her, but landed just right.
I became a different dad that day.
r
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
>> rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
>> road.
>>
>> There were two other kids in the car. She and the front passenger
>> walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. The girl
>> in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
>> wrist. No broken bones, no stitches. Had there been a kid in the
>> left rear seat, they would have died.
>>
>> Other people on the road stopped and helped. The hurt girl was
>> bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
>> to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. She came home from the
>> emergency room last night.
>>
>> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>>
>> -Zz
>
> Glad is was not any worse. Seatbelts sure help.
>
> Here is CT they are looking into taking drastic measures to minimize teen
> driving accidents. Quite a few deaths in the past year that could have been
> easily prevented just by following the laws. .
>
>
'Bout time to buy a lottery ticket for
all of you. I'm real happy things worked
out as they did.
--
Tanus
www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/
Leon wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:be342740-5d6c-4bbc-aa5b-e35ee6e1dc6e@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>> If he really was looking after --- the crash wouldn't have happened in
>> the first place.
>
>
> Well sometimes we don't always understand why things happen. It happened
> for a reason as does every thing else.
>
>
Yep. Well said, Leon.
--
Tanus
www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b863c0bf-69e7-407f-a6f3-5ad5ca610a6f@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 18, 11:48 am, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels*[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I learned early, if a deer jumps in front of the car, hang on tight to
>> the
>> steering wheel. Slow down and take a big thump on the front of the
>> vehicle.
>> And DO NOT swerve and kill everybody in the car.
>>
>> You would think that they would cover this in drivers ed. But it is
>> probably politically incorrect to kill Bambi.
>>
>
> They covered it when I took drivers' ed and I cannot count the number
> of times I have read or heard the advice "Do not swerve to avoid
> hitting an
> animal".
>
> A deer, horse, cow or other large, heavy and TALL animal, however,
> can crash through the windshield and kill the occupants. So those
> cases are a tough decision that has to be made without any time
> to think.
>
> The best strategy is probably as you suggest. Braking may give
> the animal time to get out of the way, and if not, will reduce the
> force
> of the impact.
>
Two fatalities from deer in the face in my experience. Too many wrecks
attributed to "swerving to avoid a ... to count. It's almost like having
that third beer. Hardly ever booked a drunk who has more than a "coupla
beers."
Brake and center is the way. We have brush guards on our vehicles, and I
have taken on one directly and still made it to the cardiac. Have also had
one that nearly caused a cardiac in my partner when the deer ran into the
side door of the rig.
"rich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:38708e16-d175-4263-9fc8-c56fe742a985@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
No injuries = a good lesson. Give your daughter a big hug and tell
her you love her. You can probably skip the yelling about the car.
You could always be creative, and mount the seat belt on a nice wooden
plaque for her birthday as a gift.
Absolutely correct.
"Zz Yzx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday afternoon, my 16 yo daughter drove off a country road and
> rolled the Honda Accord 3 times in the irrigation ditch along side the
> road.
>
> There were two other kids in the car. She and the front passenger
> walked away with no more than chaffing from the seat belt. The girl
> in the back seat had some major road rash and a badly bruised arm and
> wrist. No broken bones, no stitches. Had there been a kid in the
> left rear seat, they would have died.
>
> Other people on the road stopped and helped. The hurt girl was
> bleeding badly, and one man stuck his arms through the broken window
> to apply pressure to stop the bleeding. She came home from the
> emergency room last night.
>
> The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
>
> -Zz
Glad is was not any worse. Seatbelts sure help.
Here is CT they are looking into taking drastic measures to minimize teen
driving accidents. Quite a few deaths in the past year that could have been
easily prevented just by following the laws. .
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:29:02 -0600, Swingman wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
>
>> Glad is was not any worse. Seatbelts sure help.
>
> Every parent's nightmare. I'm still shuddering thinking about the OP's
> experience.
>
>> Here is CT they are looking into taking drastic measures to minimize
>> teen driving accidents. Quite a few deaths in the past year that could
>> have
> been
>> easily prevented just by following the laws. .
>
> While I adamantly agree, it's tragic that sometimes it's just the
> opposite.
>
> My youngest went to a funeral for one of her sorority sisters last
> Friday morning. The young lady, who they'd just pledged the very
> afternoon of the accident, was burned to death because she could not get
> out of the seat belt after the car rolled and caught fire. The driver
> boyfriend, not wearing a seatbelt, was thrown out and survived, although
> it appears he will be paralyzed for life.
>
> A car, to most of the young folks driving today, is a god given
> right/accessory, not considered any more dangerous than a cell phone or
> iPod. Just watching them drive on the freeways around here, you come to
> the inescapable conclusion that most have no concept whatsoever that a
> moments inattention, in a machine that can kill you, often will ... or
> someone else.
>
> The carnage that I witnessed on almost every trip as a kid, on our
> mostly two lane highways back then, still has me driving cautiously. And
> if that wasn't enough, in Driver's Ed in those days they also showed
> horror flicks of terrible wrecks, complete with blood and gore, at every
> opportunity during the course.
>
> ... what do you wanna bet that no longer is the case because it would
> damage the self esteem of the coddled little yuppie puppies of today?
My twin 15 year old daughters just finished drivers ed and they do still
show "Highways of Death" or as we called it in the day "Hair teeth and
eyeballs on the freeway". My daughter gave me a scene by scene
description. Yucky, but effective.
D.G. Adams
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Had to hunt for bits of a pilot once. After I found a boot complete with
> foot, I was very thankful I didn't find the helmet.
Lower velocity crashes like boy meets birch (OBWW) with aid of snowmobile
make it clear why they call them "brain buckets."
Now it's DNA, but they still take your footprints in UFT to make things
easier. I told my wife early on that regardless the size of the box they
produced for burial, she shouldn't think there was much of me in it.
"Rod & Betty Jo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> dgadams wrote:
>> My twin 15 year old daughters just finished drivers ed and they do
>> still show "Highways of Death" or as we called it in the day "Hair
>> teeth and eyeballs on the freeway". My daughter gave me a scene by
>> scene description. Yucky, but effective.
>>
>> D.G. Adams
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> I don't think the movie would have done much to improve my 29 yr. old
> daughters "scary to me" driving.... in one of her "helpful moments"
> she helped search the freeway shoulder for a guys leg after a nasty
> motorcycle accident......nothing phases her.....My youngest nurse
> daughter would have happily helped sew the thing back on.......Dinner
> conversation with them either or both of them is not always a good
> thing. Rod
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Had to hunt for bits of a pilot once. After I found a boot complete with
foot, I was very thankful I didn't find the helmet.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> While I adamantly agree, it's tragic that sometimes it's just the
> opposite.
>
> My youngest went to a funeral for one of her sorority sisters last Friday
> morning. The young lady, who they'd just pledged the very afternoon of the
> accident, was burned to death because she could not get out of the seat
> belt
> after the car rolled and caught fire. The driver boyfriend, not wearing a
> seatbelt, was thrown out and survived, although it appears he will be
> paralyzed for life.
>
I've cut three dead from seatbelts. AFTER prying apart the metal with jaws
to get to them. All but one of the free-fallers have perished. Wear 'em,
and buckle those kids in the back seat in a proper carseat as well. Can
remember few finer feelings after digging a snow tunnel and looking inside a
car than seeing two kids and momma calming each other upside down in their
belts.
Saved my daughter last spring.
>The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
Thanks for your replies and kind thoughts.
I went to the crash scene (even beat the cops and EMTs), and saw what
happened. And I've had a chance to talk serioulsy with her today.
Here's somethings I found out:
She wasn't speeding or screwing around, just driving 55 mph on a
dead-straight, narrow, flat road surrounded by alfalfa and dormant
tomato fields. There's a 4-6 inch drop off from the pavement to a
soft shoulder, then the 4'-deep ditch. She doesn't like driving those
narrow roads because people drive fast, there're a lot of BIG
pickem-up trucks and farm equipment and other stuff. She was hugging
the yellow line to avoid the shoulder. A big pick-up came from the
other way, she moved to the right, just a tad too much, and the right
front wheel caught the lip of the pavement. That was all it took.
In the scheme of Loss Prevention Systems, the root cause of this
incident was "lack of skill or knowledge".
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:32:33 -0800, Zz Yzx <[email protected]>
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>The Great Woodworker was looking after my family yesterday.
Glad to hear everyone's OK.
My wife's 16 year old cousin + 1 were killed 4 weeks ago last night in
a car crash.
Both kids were honor students who didn't drink or drug. Her cousin,
the driver, wasn't a daredevil. He broke 'em off on me for flying and
sea kayaking, because "that's dangerous!" <G> The kid's best
friends were his dad and a priest. He was truly the last kid you'd
ever expect to screw around, but he was still a 16 year old in a car.
Give your kid a hug and make sure she knows what could have been.