I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
the hole.
TIA!
--
Highland Pairos wrote:
> Temporarily put the piece in place and run a quick cut through the saw.
> Look inside and see where the greatest amount of dust is and voila.
>
> SteveP.
> www.stellarbuilders.net
>
> <dan> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
>> collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
>> the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
>> bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
>> hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
>> or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
>> the hole.
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>> --
>>
I hate to rain on a parade, but you will not notice a lot of difference,
until you close off that huge hole in the back of the saw housing. The
Ryobi TS3650 has a housing around the blade, with a 2" dust port. Two
problems, the port was/is too small and the gap at the top the housing
allowed too much of a bypass for the air flow. Solution was to attach a
piece of visquene to the underside of table top with magnets and have the
side piece of the housing hold the the rest of the visquene. The result is
that the major air flow is down past the blade.
Dust has been reduced, but still have some.
Deb
On Apr 5, 2:13 pm, "dan" <> wrote:
> I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
Dan, something that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of
wearing a dust mask regardless of weather or not you manage to attach
your shop vac successfully. Likely it will catch a lot of the dust
produced but certainly no where near all of it. What is doesn't catch
is often the smallest particles that will be end up in your lungs.
You may already be aware of that but just in case your not it's
generally agreed that a good dust respirator is required whenever
using your saw or other fine dust producing equipment.
"Dr. Deb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Highland Pairos wrote:
>
>> Temporarily put the piece in place and run a quick cut through the saw.
>> Look inside and see where the greatest amount of dust is and voila.
>>
>> SteveP.
>> www.stellarbuilders.net
>>
>> <dan> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
>>> collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
>>> the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
>>> bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
>>> hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
>>> or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
>>> the hole.
>>>
>>> TIA!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>
>
> I hate to rain on a parade, but you will not notice a lot of difference,
> until you close off that huge hole in the back of the saw housing. The
> Ryobi TS3650 has a housing around the blade, with a 2" dust port. Two
> problems, the port was/is too small and the gap at the top the housing
> allowed too much of a bypass for the air flow. Solution was to attach a
> piece of visquene to the underside of table top with magnets and have the
> side piece of the housing hold the the rest of the visquene. The result
> is that the major air flow is down past the blade.
>
> Dust has been reduced, but still have some.
>
> Deb
Sorry to be thick, Deb, but what the heck is "visquene' ?
Highland Pairos wrote:
> Temporarily put the piece in place and run a quick cut through the
> saw. Look inside and see where the greatest amount of dust is and
> voila.
>
> SteveP.
> www.stellarbuilders.net
>
> <dan> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better
> > dust collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about
> > 1" from the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover
> > the entire bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2
> > 1/2" vacuum hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the
> > blade? Ahead (front) or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by
> > shooting the dust directly at the hole.
> >
> > TIA!
> >
> > --
Man, when I read this, I thought "how simple!". But after trying it,
I'm not too sure I like the results. The saw dust pooled in each of the
four corners. I'm thinking the "wind" from the blade pushed it there.
Now I'm thinking my plan for a vacuum is not going to work lik I
planned. I may have to go for a bag.
--
Mike in Arkansas wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:13 pm, "dan" <> wrote:
> > I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better
> > dust
> Dan, something that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of
> wearing a dust mask regardless of weather or not you manage to attach
> your shop vac successfully. Likely it will catch a lot of the dust
> produced but certainly no where near all of it. What is doesn't catch
> is often the smallest particles that will be end up in your lungs.
> You may already be aware of that but just in case your not it's
> generally agreed that a good dust respirator is required whenever
> using your saw or other fine dust producing equipment.
Very good point! I use a respirator mask - but then I have Asthma so
it's really critical for me.
--
"dan cordes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:rtZJj.308$%[email protected]...
> Hi,
> Harbor Frieght has the same item for $5. It works great. item # 45794
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
>
> Dan
Please try posting whatever it is again, Dan. That ended with the message
"...not a valid item".
Jack Stein wrote:
> dan wrote:
> > I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better
> > dust collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about
> > 1" from the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover
> > the entire bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2
> > 1/2" vacuum hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the
> > blade? Ahead (front) or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by
> > shooting the dust directly at the hole.
>
> I bought a rubber roof vent made for 3 - 4" PVC pipe from Home Depot
> ($5). Cut a hole to fit under your blade and screw it in, Hook up
> some 3" PVC pipe with a Fernco reducer to fit your vacuum hose and
> your in business. You can see pictures of what I did here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23915904@N04/2273891089/in/set-7215760393
> 2038342/
>
> With a contractors saw, which I have, you will want to make a cover
> for the back of the saw unless you have one of the 100 horsepower
> diesel engine dust collectors:-)
Wow! Quite the setup. I ordered one of those collector bags. If this
does not work, I'll give your solution a try. Thanks!
--
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:22:12 -0800, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 05 Apr 2008 19:13:44 GMT, "dan" <> wrote:
>
>>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
>>collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
>>the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
>>bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
>>hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
>>or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
>>the hole.
>>
>>TIA!
>
>IMO, dust collection with a shop vac is sorta pissing in the wind...
>
>You might try one of those collection bag things first...
>http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5140
>
>I haven't tried one, so I have no idea how well they work... I gave up and moved
>my saw outside..
>
One day I was in the lab complaining about the fact that the cardboard
box I slid under my Delta contractors saw to collect the chips was so
hard to slide out because of the leg tie bars. Light bulb lit up in
one of the new product team engineer's head and in a couple of weeks
he developed a bag that had a wireframe top. Included were a couple
of sheet metal angles that were screwed to the bottom of the stand top
plate. I took the prototype home to test it.
It worked like a charm, caught about 95% of the chips and dust, and
could be emptied in a few seconds just by sliding it out of the angle
pieces, dumping and sliding back in.
Went on the market for $29.00. Hardly sold any. Discontinued by now
I believe, or at any rate didn't fit the next generation stand.
That bag, and the drop down rear extension for contractor saw, also
about 29 bucks (I prototype tested that one too) were two of the best
accessories for a contractor saw I ever used. Neither sold well.
Since then I've seen all kinds of bags onthe market with snaps and
other attachment methods, none that are even close to that original
for ease of dumping. But, I guess they are selling because they
continue to be offered.
Go figure.
Frank
>
>mac
>
>Please remove splinters before emailing
C & E wrote:
>>
>>I hate to rain on a parade, but you will not notice a lot of difference,
>>until you close off that huge hole in the back of the saw housing. The
>>Ryobi TS3650 has a housing around the blade, with a 2" dust port. Two
>>problems, the port was/is too small and the gap at the top the housing
>>allowed too much of a bypass for the air flow. Solution was to attach a
>>piece of visquene to the underside of table top with magnets and have the
>>side piece of the housing hold the the rest of the visquene. The result
>>is that the major air flow is down past the blade.
>>
>>Dust has been reduced, but still have some.
>>
>>Deb
>
>
> Sorry to be thick, Deb, but what the heck is "visquene' ?
>
>
Also spelled "visqueen". It's plastic sheeting.
http://www.packagingsupplies.com/Poly-Sheeting-Visqueen.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
On 05 Apr 2008 19:13:44 GMT, "dan" <> wrote:
>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
>collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
>the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
>bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
>hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
>or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
>the hole.
>
>TIA!
IMO, dust collection with a shop vac is sorta pissing in the wind...
You might try one of those collection bag things first...
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5140
I haven't tried one, so I have no idea how well they work... I gave up and moved
my saw outside..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Temporarily put the piece in place and run a quick cut through the saw.
Look inside and see where the greatest amount of dust is and voila.
SteveP.
www.stellarbuilders.net
<dan> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
> collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
> the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
> bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
> hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
> or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
> the hole.
>
> TIA!
>
> --
>
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:36:35 +0000, dan wrote:
> Man, when I read this, I thought "how simple!". But after trying it, I'm
> not too sure I like the results. The saw dust pooled in each of the four
> corners. I'm thinking the "wind" from the blade pushed it there. Now I'm
> thinking my plan for a vacuum is not going to work lik I planned. I may
> have to go for a bag.
Some of the dust will pool no matter how you do your DC I think. However
if you had some slope in the mix it will help funnel everything to your
vacuum.
"dan" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Highland Pairos wrote:
>
>> Temporarily put the piece in place and run a quick cut through the
>> saw. Look inside and see where the greatest amount of dust is and
>> voila.
>>
>> SteveP.
>> www.stellarbuilders.net
>>
>> <dan> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> > I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better
>> > dust collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about
>> > 1" from the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover
>> > the entire bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2
>> > 1/2" vacuum hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the
>> > blade? Ahead (front) or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by
>> > shooting the dust directly at the hole.
>> >
>> > TIA!
>> >
>> > --
>
> Man, when I read this, I thought "how simple!". But after trying it,
> I'm not too sure I like the results. The saw dust pooled in each of the
> four corners. I'm thinking the "wind" from the blade pushed it there.
> Now I'm thinking my plan for a vacuum is not going to work lik I
> planned. I may have to go for a bag.
>
> --
>
I have a Delta contractors saw. I built a hopper with a connection for my
Harbor Freight dust collector. Saw dust still fills in the corners and on
any horizontal surface under the saw. No way to avoid it as far as I am
concerned. The dust collector does a great job of grabbing the air borne
dust. You will not collect all the dust, no matter how much money you throw
at it.
Greg
Hi All,
Sorry about that all. try going to HF home page
http://www.harborfreight.com/ and then search for item #45794.
Dan
"C & E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "dan cordes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:rtZJj.308$%[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>> Harbor Frieght has the same item for $5. It works great. item # 45794
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
>>
>> Dan
> Please try posting whatever it is again, Dan. That ended with the
> message "...not a valid item".
>
dan wrote:
> I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
> collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
> the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
> bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
> hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
> or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
> the hole.
I bought a rubber roof vent made for 3 - 4" PVC pipe from Home Depot
($5). Cut a hole to fit under your blade and screw it in, Hook up some
3" PVC pipe with a Fernco reducer to fit your vacuum hose and your in
business. You can see pictures of what I did here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23915904@N04/2273891089/in/set-72157603932038342/
With a contractors saw, which I have, you will want to make a cover for
the back of the saw unless you have one of the 100 horsepower diesel
engine dust collectors:-)
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
<dan> wrote in message
>
> Man, when I read this, I thought "how simple!". But after trying it,
> I'm not too sure I like the results. The saw dust pooled in each of the
> four corners. I'm thinking the "wind" from the blade pushed it there.
> Now I'm thinking my plan for a vacuum is not going to work lik I
> planned. I may have to go for a bag.
So let it pool in the corners. It will build up only so far and the rest
will go into the dust collector. It is not possible to have the air flow in
such a manner as to be 100% effective.
No, it was not the wind from the blade that pushed it there, it is the lack
of air flow that did not allow it to be sucked out. The chunks of wood fly
and bounce everywhere. Remember, don't seal up the chamber so well that you
don't have air flow. To suck dust out, air must enter at the same rate as
it is taken away.
Hi,
Harbor Frieght has the same item for $5. It works great. item # 45794
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
Dan
"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 05 Apr 2008 19:13:44 GMT, "dan" <> wrote:
>
>>I have an entry-level 10" Skil table saw I am adapting for better dust
>>collection. I am putting a flat panel beneath the saw (about 1" from
>>the blade at its lowest setting) and stand. This will cover the entire
>>bottom of the saw. I'm going to cut a hole to attach a 2 1/2" vacuum
>>hose. Where should the hole be? Dead-center of the blade? Ahead (front)
>>or behind? I'd like to aid the vacuum by shooting the dust directly at
>>the hole.
>>
>>TIA!
>
> IMO, dust collection with a shop vac is sorta pissing in the wind...
>
> You might try one of those collection bag things first...
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=5140
>
> I haven't tried one, so I have no idea how well they work... I gave up and
> moved
> my saw outside..
>
>
> mac
>
> Please remove splinters before emailing
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:51:10 -0400, "C & E" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I hate to rain on a parade, but you will not notice a lot of difference,
>> until you close off that huge hole in the back of the saw housing. The
>> Ryobi TS3650 has a housing around the blade, with a 2" dust port. Two
>> problems, the port was/is too small and the gap at the top the housing
>> allowed too much of a bypass for the air flow. Solution was to attach a
>> piece of visquene to the underside of table top with magnets and have the
>> side piece of the housing hold the the rest of the visquene. The result
>> is that the major air flow is down past the blade.
>>
>> Dust has been reduced, but still have some.
>>
>> Deb
>
>Sorry to be thick, Deb, but what the heck is "visquene' ?
>
I think he means plastic sheeting?
pronounced sort of like "vis-queen"
mac
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