Rr

"R.H."

06/03/2008 4:33 AM

What is it? CCXXII

As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
morning so I'll have to get to it later.


http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/



Rob


This topic has 31 replies

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 7:10 AM

On Mar 6, 7:15 am, "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1239 is an early model of can opener. It always amazes me that
> the tin can was quite common for many years before the first can
> opener was invented.

Seems unlikely. Why would someone cut a V-shaped groove instead of
just cutting the metal? Way more force would be required. How would
you locate the exact center of the lid so that tool would function?
You'd need another tool to find the center.

Generally speaking, if there's an oddball tool that kinda sorta looks
like a woodworking tool, it's probably a leather working tool. I bet
if RH posted these quizzes on a leather working newsgroup, all of the
woodworking tools would be guessed at as being some sort of leather
tools!

R

ee

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 7:08 AM

On Mar 6, 5:42 am, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:33 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> > Rob
>
> 1243 is a calf weaner. I saw them in use as a small boy. It was
> attached to a halter so that it fastened on top of the calf's nose.
> When the calf attempted to nurse, the cow would be pricked, prompting
> her to kick the calf away. Talk about tough love!

Good Lord!
Now THERE'S a few mental images I'd like to have burned away.

jj

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 4:06 AM

1240 looks like an old microfiche reader. I hated them.

Ds

DonkeyHody

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 8:07 PM


> My grandparents and several aunts and uncles had farms. I spent quite
> a bit of time working and playing around livestock, and I'm still
> cringing at what something like that would to do a cow's full udder.
>
> "Prick" you say? Isn't one of the first things a calf does is jam his
> nose good and hard into the udder looking for the teat? That's what I
> remember.


Oh Ye of Little Faith!
Don't tell the folks at PETA, but these things are still in use
today. This one attaches a little differently, but the outcome is
still the same.
http://www.cattlestore.com/pc-1163-158-syrvet-spiked-calf-weaner.aspx

DonkeyHody
"Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then."

kk

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 3:49 AM

On Mar 5, 11:33 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
> posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
> morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1242. Craftsman and probably other brand pocket screw jig.
link below.
Thanks
Karl

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00929133000P?vName=Tools&cName=PowerToolAccessories&sName=Drill%20Doctor%20&%20Drill%20Attachments&psid=FROOGLE01&sid=IDx20070921x00003a

SP

Stealth Pilot

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 7:32 PM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:33:49 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
>posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
>morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>Rob

1239 looks like something to do with grooving a wooden barrel lid

1240 an epidiascope?

1241 forked if I know......

1242 a drilling jig for dowelling?

1243 do these tie onto boots for shinnying up trees?

1244 as for 1241....

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 8:39 PM

dgates wrote:
>
> I'll say! I guess those of us that have never been on a barn are a
> lot "softer" in our sensibilities.


I have been on several farms, but I was smart enough to stay off the
barn.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

MA

"Michael A. Terrell"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 8:41 PM

Lee Michaels wrote:
>
> "DanG" wrote
>
> > 1239 is an early model of can opener. It always amazes me that the tin
> > can was quite common for many years before the first can opener was
> > invented.
> >
> >
> That is probably because at that time almost everybody carried a knife of
> some type. The knives were the ultimate utility tool for countless
> generations, until they became politically incorrect. Or many other
> tools/modern conveniences rendered their general utility obsolete.


Can opener?
<http://images.google.com/images?q=p38+can+opener&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYA&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi>

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

BM

"Buddy Matlosz"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 8:19 PM

1241 - Swiss army fork.

B.

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

07/03/2008 5:37 PM

Another difficult set, I still haven't had any luck identifying the fork or
the small pieces. This week's answer page can be seen here:

http://pzphotosans222r1.blogspot.com/


Rob

Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

07/03/2008 5:56 PM


"dgates" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:33:49 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
>>posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
>>morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>>
>>
>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Nice! I immediately tried clicking "this archive," and was treated to
> just the sort of object I love -- something that looks like a cross
> between a pistol, a clock and something else. They should work that
> baby into the next Myst game! :-)


Thanks, I used blogger's label feature to make the archive, you can add a
descriptor to each post and then all related posts can be seen by clicking
on the label. I was planning to go back and label every applicable post
with these terms: Best, Woodworking, Metalworking, Science, Gunpowder, and
Fire; but I only got about half way when I realized that some of the
categories were starting to contain too many posts.

There are over twenty posts in the woodworking set, in which at least one
tool in the post is related to this category, it can be seen at the link
below but you might want to pass on it unless you have broadband:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/search/label/Woodworking


Over a dozen posts related to gunpowder, weapons, or explosives are in this
set:

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/search/label/Gunpowder


I haven't decided yet if I'm going to continue adding more labels, since
most of the categories have enough posts already.


Rob









Rr

"R.H."

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

09/03/2008 12:13 PM


> One possible problem I see with labeling in that way is that you're
> kind of giving away the answer. With the ones I've most enjoyed, you
> look at them and say "Is that a weapon? Some kind of time piece? A
> woodworking tool??"


That's another good reason not to continue with the labels, I'll probably
hold off using this feature for a while.


An update on the barrel maker's tool: someone who has used this device sent
me an email saying that it was for champhering the head of a barrel so that
it would hold in the groove around the top.



Rob

rr

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 4:01 AM

On 6 Mar, 09:33, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

The second one is a victorian/georgian era pier amusement machine for
showing short films.

Roy

Ku

Kenneth

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 7:19 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:21 -0800, dgates
<[email protected]> wrote:

>And your links also led me to a whole thread full of people talking
>about how to solve the $229.95 puzzle. I can't believe there are that
>many people who can comfortably spend that much cash on one puzzle!
>(although I can believe that, once they've spent the cash, they'll
>then be able to find each other to talk about it!)
>

Howdy,

Your comment reminds me of an experience I had a long time
ago:

I have been a serious guitar player for more than fifty
years...

When I was about 18, I had the occasion to visit with a
prominent surgeon who lived in Ohio.

I had with me a very fine guitar that was made in 1927, and
after dinner my host asked if I might play a tune for him.

As I took the guitar from its case, he looked at it for a
moment, and said "That looks like it might be something
rather special. Is it?"

I told him a bit about the instrument, and he gently asked
"Might you tell me what a guitar of that sort is worth?"

When I told him its value he frowned. Then, he said "Perhaps
I should not tell you this, but I am a much older and more
experienced man, and I believe that you have grossly
misplaced values..."

After a dramatic pause, he then added "Don't you realize
that for that amount of money, you could have bought a
Browning shotgun?"

All the best,
--
Kenneth

If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Dd

DS

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

07/03/2008 12:21 PM

DonkeyHody wrote:
> Don't tell the folks at PETA, but these things are still in use
> today. This one attaches a little differently, but the outcome is
> still the same.
> http://www.cattlestore.com/pc-1163-158-syrvet-spiked-calf-weaner.aspx


Don't let the kids at the mall see that. They'll all be wearing them...

Dd

DS

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 3:31 PM

1239 is a legal implement. My ex wife stuck the awl part into my back,
then her lawyer swiveled it until my wallet was cut free.

Ds

DonkeyHody

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 3:42 AM

On Mar 6, 3:33=A0am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
> posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
> morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1243 is a calf weaner. I saw them in use as a small boy. It was
attached to a halter so that it fastened on top of the calf's nose.
When the calf attempted to nurse, the cow would be pricked, prompting
her to kick the calf away. Talk about tough love!

DonkeyHody
"Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then."

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 7:20 PM

"R.H." <[email protected]> writes:
>As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
>posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
>morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
#1239 Panel Gauge
#1242 Pocket hole jig

scott

dd

dgates

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

07/03/2008 4:55 PM

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:56:13 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"dgates" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:33:49 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
>>>posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
>>>morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Nice! I immediately tried clicking "this archive," and was treated to
>> just the sort of object I love -- something that looks like a cross
>> between a pistol, a clock and something else. They should work that
>> baby into the next Myst game! :-)
>
>
>Thanks, I used blogger's label feature to make the archive, you can add a
>descriptor to each post and then all related posts can be seen by clicking
>on the label. I was planning to go back and label every applicable post
>with these terms: Best, Woodworking, Metalworking, Science, Gunpowder, and
>Fire; but I only got about half way when I realized that some of the
>categories were starting to contain too many posts.
>
>There are over twenty posts in the woodworking set, in which at least one
>tool in the post is related to this category, it can be seen at the link
>below but you might want to pass on it unless you have broadband:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/search/label/Woodworking
>
>
>Over a dozen posts related to gunpowder, weapons, or explosives are in this
>set:
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/search/label/Gunpowder
>
>
>I haven't decided yet if I'm going to continue adding more labels, since
>most of the categories have enough posts already.


One possible problem I see with labeling in that way is that you're
kind of giving away the answer. With the ones I've most enjoyed, you
look at them and say "Is that a weapon? Some kind of time piece? A
woodworking tool??"

ee

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 1:04 PM

On Mar 6, 11:51 am, dgates <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:26 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mar 6, 5:42 am, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Mar 6, 3:33 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> >> > Rob
>
> >> 1243 is a calf weaner. I saw them in use as a small boy. It was
> >> attached to a halter so that it fastened on top of the calf's nose.
> >> When the calf attempted to nurse, the cow would be pricked, prompting
> >> her to kick the calf away. Talk about tough love!
>
> >Good Lord!
> >Now THERE'S a few mental images I'd like to have burned away.
>
> I'll say! I guess those of us that have never been on a barn are a
> lot "softer" in our sensibilities.

My grandparents and several aunts and uncles had farms. I spent quite
a bit of time working and playing around livestock, and I'm still
cringing at what something like that would to do a cow's full udder.

"Prick" you say? Isn't one of the first things a calf does is jam his
nose good and hard into the udder looking for the teat? That's what I
remember.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 10:08 AM

R.H. wrote:
> As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my
> better posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short
> on time this morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

1242 appears to be a pocket hole jig. I've seen one just like it in a
catalog somewhere but can't find it now.


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 10:17 AM

Lee Michaels wrote:
> "DanG" wrote
>
>> 1239 is an early model of can opener. It always amazes me that the
>> tin can was quite common for many years before the first can opener
>> was invented.
>>
>>
> That is probably because at that time almost everybody carried a
> knife of some type. The knives were the ultimate utility tool for
> countless generations, until they became politically incorrect. Or
> many other tools/modern conveniences rendered their general utility
> obsolete.

Several sites agree that the early cans were of such heavy metal that
they had to be chiseled open or pounded with a hammer.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 11:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Time to dust off the thinking cap...not sure it's much help this time,
though.

1239 -- It's fairly obvious how you'd use this tool; the pointy bit gets
stuck in something, and the other end swung around to describe a circle
or arc. The diameter is adjustable within some limits. It's much less
clear what the circle-describing end is intended to do on its course;
the rounded mustache-shaped metal foot seemingly slides along the
surface, and presumably the vee-shaped trough does...ummm...something.
If it's sharpened at one or the other end, it may cut a groove or mark
where cutting is to be done; or perhaps it's somehow used to check the
roundness and evenness of wheels. Pure guesswork, in both cases.

1240 -- Well, you put the top edge in the flap at the back and follow
the instructions along the side to accomplish whatever it is you need to
do. Print a bookmark?

1241 -- No idea what it does, but it's an exquisite tool.

1242 -- A woodworking jig for drilling holes at an angle; I presume this
may be used to make screw holes to attach table tops to their rails.
Presumably, the bit-guiding portion is actually perpendicular to the
base, and the apparent angle in the first picture is caused by the
camera's position.

1243 -- Possibly strapped around one's knee when doing something like
ice climbing?

1244 -- Strange things. They are fairly roughly finished and not too
precisely cast, so they cannot be precision weights or measures or
standards. The holes suggest perhaps they rock on a shaft; possibly
parts of some mechanical control system? (I'm thinking along the lines
of the mechanism used until relatively recently to synchronize the locks
on the Panama canal. I tried and failed to find a picture online, but
it was essentially a PAL assembled of rocker arms, levers, and cams.)

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 9:49 AM


"DanG" wrote

> 1239 is an early model of can opener. It always amazes me that the tin
> can was quite common for many years before the first can opener was
> invented.
>
>
That is probably because at that time almost everybody carried a knife of
some type. The knives were the ultimate utility tool for countless
generations, until they became politically incorrect. Or many other
tools/modern conveniences rendered their general utility obsolete.


dd

dgates

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 9:51 AM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:26 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Mar 6, 5:42 am, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mar 6, 3:33 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>
>> > Rob
>>
>> 1243 is a calf weaner. I saw them in use as a small boy. It was
>> attached to a halter so that it fastened on top of the calf's nose.
>> When the calf attempted to nurse, the cow would be pricked, prompting
>> her to kick the calf away. Talk about tough love!
>
>Good Lord!
>Now THERE'S a few mental images I'd like to have burned away.


I'll say! I guess those of us that have never been on a barn are a
lot "softer" in our sensibilities.

"this spiked object might look like it's from a horror movie...?" I
can totally picture teenager cows in a Far Side cartoon lining up to
see a horror movie called "Calf Weaner!"

dd

dgates

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 9:56 AM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 04:33:49 -0500, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:

>As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
>posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
>morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
>http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/


Nice! I immediately tried clicking "this archive," and was treated to
just the sort of object I love -- something that looks like a cross
between a pistol, a clock and something else. They should work that
baby into the next Myst game! :-)

I also stumbled onto a link that led me to your Neatorama page, and
then a certain object, that's actually a puzzle, that currently goes
for $229.95. (I guess I shouldn't say the name of the puzzle, in case
someone wants to solve the Neatorama "What Is It" puzzles first...?

And your links also led me to a whole thread full of people talking
about how to solve the $229.95 puzzle. I can't believe there are that
many people who can comfortably spend that much cash on one puzzle!
(although I can believe that, once they've spent the cash, they'll
then be able to find each other to talk about it!)


Hmm, how to start a subthread about this $229.95 puzzle without giving
away the "What Is It" in the process... ?

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

07/03/2008 1:15 AM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:21 -0800, dgates wrote:
> ...
> Hmm, how to start a subthread about this $229.95 puzzle without giving
> away the "What Is It" in the process... ?

Just wait 'til next week. :-) (Or until they've all been answered)

Cheers!
Rich

Gg

Gunner

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 10:05 AM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:51:07 -0800, dgates <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:26 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 6, 5:42 am, DonkeyHody <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Mar 6, 3:33 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> >http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> > Rob
>>>
>>> 1243 is a calf weaner. I saw them in use as a small boy. It was
>>> attached to a halter so that it fastened on top of the calf's nose.
>>> When the calf attempted to nurse, the cow would be pricked, prompting
>>> her to kick the calf away. Talk about tough love!
>>
>>Good Lord!
>>Now THERE'S a few mental images I'd like to have burned away.
>
>
>I'll say! I guess those of us that have never been on a barn are a
>lot "softer" in our sensibilities.
>
>"this spiked object might look like it's from a horror movie...?" I
>can totally picture teenager cows in a Far Side cartoon lining up to
>see a horror movie called "Calf Weaner!"

The Texas Veal Massacre......


Gunner

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

08/03/2008 4:38 AM

On 2008-03-06, R.H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my better
> posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm short on time this
> morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/

Oops -- I'm late again.

Anyway -- posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as usual.

1239) This looks like a tool for cutting a circle from cardboard or
leather. The vertical spike defines the center, and the
horizontal handle puts pressure on the arc-shaped cutting blade.

Looks as though there is a hook to lift up the work stock
outside of the circle as you go -- to make sure that you have
cut all the way through before you get away from an area.

1240) Magnifying viewer for something. The format is wrong for
microfiche. It uses a rather intense illuminator inside based
on the ventilation louvers. Perhaps it is some form of opaque
projector?

1241) Looks as though it is meant to hold down meat while it is being
cut, and not to lift it to the user's mouth.

1242) Hmm -- screwed to a tabletop of some sort. The clamp holds a
workpiece and the two angled setscrews hold it down to the
bottom, perhaps to assure that it is at a constant height for
some other tool to work upon.

1243) At a guess, it straps just below the knee to allow one to
kneel on ice without slipping.

1244) A set of screw-on (or snap-on) cams -- marked for how much
lift they give to a follower roller. Not sure what the units
are. Maybe 0.001" increments, too small to be mm of lift.

Now to see what others have said -- and you probably have
already posted the answers page by now.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Dd

"DanG"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 6:15 AM

1239 is an early model of can opener. It always amazes me that
the tin can was quite common for many years before the first can
opener was invented.


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"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As was suggested, I updated my header with a link to a few of my
> better posts, I've got a couple more comments on this but I'm
> short on time this morning so I'll have to get to it later.
>
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Rob

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "R.H." on 06/03/2008 4:33 AM

06/03/2008 11:30 PM


"DonkeyHody" wrote
>
> Oh Ye of Little Faith!
> Don't tell the folks at PETA, but these things are still in use
> today. This one attaches a little differently, but the outcome is
> still the same.
> http://www.cattlestore.com/pc-1163-158-syrvet-spiked-calf-weaner.aspx
>

That is the new fangled version. The ones that we used were made of metal
and had a point on one end. You jammed it through the wall between the
nostrils and slipped a pin in it. It became a metal ring through the nose
with some teeth on it. So you had a ring through the nose which would come
in handylater in life if you needed to move the cow. a rope through the
ring made any livestock totally obedient.



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