There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items with
no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were strange.
Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up item,
e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the money
to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three checks were
phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I would
accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to
them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or send
instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd
bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they
wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
"Curran Copeland" wrote:
> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so
I
> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the
items with
> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two
items,
> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
strange.
> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you
by UPS
> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick
up item,
> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by
UPS
> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send
the money
> to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three
checks were
> phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I
would
> accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was
up to
> them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me
or send
> instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30
odd
> bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by
whom? I
> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and
said they
> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
All the scammer wants is your physical address.
If you insist on "Huld foor pickup" at the local UPS or FedEx
station, they go away and try to find another sucker.
Lew
SFWIW, I use a PO Box.
"Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS courier (about $30 each to send)
> one had a mailing address to send the money to, the other two had no
> information at all, of course all three checks were phony. What gets me is
> that I told the two that contacted me that I would accept a check but only
> for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to them, they sent $2900
> checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or send instructions or
> tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd bucks to send me a
> bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I took one of the
> checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they wouldn't even
> cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
These scammers also do fake Post Office money orders that look good enough
that they fool people into sending goods and forwarding part of the money to
a "shipper" or whoever, of course when the check or money order turns out to
be fake they get stuck for the item they sent plus the money they forwarded.
Obviously one of the warning signs is when someone wants to send you more
than the purchase price so you can forward money to someone else. Somebody
suggested they have a way to defraud UPS as well, it's quite possible that
they're using someone else's account to sent the checks overnight, they
don't want to give their victims time to think about what's going on. These
days it isn't just buyer beware, sellers have to be careful too.
"Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What gets me curious is why were all the checks for $2900? is there
> something about that amount that I am not aware of?
Maybe criminals are creatures of habit like the rest of us and this is one
scammer using various accounts to try to defraud you and he just got
careless in between scamming dozens of other people this week. Or maybe
experience has taught himm that's just the right amount of money to hook the
greatest number of suckers, who knows? Glad you didn't get burned, I'm
amazed at how many people fall for such scams.
"Curran Copeland" wrote:
> I use a Business address but think I will go to PO box it might be
safer.
I prefer to play mind games with them. Becomes a matter of how long
for them to give up.
The "Huld foor pickup" routine just screws with their tiny little
minds for awhile.
Becomes a matter of how long they want to suffer.
Lew
"Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
> thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
> scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have
> the resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be
> international in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial
> authorities.
There are federal agencies interested in such scams although you shouldn't
expect action on your particular complaint, but they do want info.
http://www.scamdex.com/Reporting.php
http://www.419legal.org/reporting-fraud/
http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Victims/reporting.htm
http://banspam.javawoman.com/report3/scam1.html
http://www.fakechecks.org/
RE: Swingman's comment about my non-existant debit csrd.
It was announced last week that scammers had used some high tech gear
to get debit card and matching PIN numbers that were used at a local
gas station.
Got over $400K before it was stopped.
Gas station owner was cleared since he also got scammed.
The fraudulent activity took place not only in the metro Los Angeles
area, but also metro New York City.
And no, they did not get my non-existant card number<G>.
Lew
"Swingman" <[email protected]> writes:
>"John" wrote
>> Amazing what face-to-face and cash can accomplish ;-)
>Problem is, in Houston "face to face" may well mean you'll be looking down
>the barrel of a $2 pistola ... and, they now know where your tools are.
Unless it is big iron just arrange to meet somewhere other than home.
On Dec 19, 2:37 am, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in messagenews:a8259083-1b83-4be8-9cbc-529023f2ffc4@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 18, 9:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
> >> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items
> >> with
> >> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
> >> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
> >> strange.
> >> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by
> >> UPS
> >> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up
> >> item,
> >> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
> >> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the
> >> money
> >> to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three checks
> >> were
> >> phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I would
> >> accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to
> >> them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or
> >> send
> >> instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd
> >> bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom?
> >> I
> >> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
> >> they
> >> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> > They expect you to send them 'change', that is the difference between
> > the amount of their check and the purchase price and shipping costs.
> > Then their check will bounce. Bank checks, can 'bounce' after they
> > appear to have cleared, which is how that scam works.
>
> > Since you didn't fall for it, THEY lost money.
>
> > Good for you!
>
> In this case the scammer got scammed. should happen more often.
They didn't get scammed, they shot themselves in the foot because
OP didn't take the bait.
OTOH, this does suggest a way to screw them, by posting ads to
Craig's list etc with adds for things only a scammer would offer
to buy.
--
FF
On Dec 18, 2:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items with
> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were strange.
> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up item,
> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the money
I have sold a few things this year on Craigs List. Rule #1 for me is
Local Only, I want to see who I'm dealing with. Rule #2 is Cash Only,
for the reason you just described - if you fall for the bad check
scheme, they get your item and your money.
Play by those 2 rules on Craigs List, and you'll avoid most problems.
Jerry
"Curran Copeland" wrote
> I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
> thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
> scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have
the
> resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be
international
> in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial authorities.
There was actually a Houston CL "ad" this morning where some individual was
warning about the exact same scam on an item ... looks like the scammers may
have "flagged" it enough times to get his warning post removed. :(
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/14/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)
"John" wrote
> Amazing what face-to-face and cash can accomplish ;-)
Problem is, in Houston "face to face" may well mean you'll be looking down
the barrel of a $2 pistola ... and, they now know where your tools are.
I check out Houston's CL on a daily basis and I suspect that a perceptible
amount of what's sold here is hotter than said pistola ... you can almost
tell by what passes for "ingles" in some of the ads.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 12/14/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Dec 19, 6:01 pm, "Kate" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote
> > Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
> > took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
> > they
> > wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> > ---
> > I'm just a little curious, why did you not contact the police department?
> > Kate
>
> I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
> thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
> scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have the
> resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be international
> in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial authorities.
>
> Amazing, isn't it?
> That's a darn shame.
>
> K.
On Dec 19, 6:01 pm, "Kate" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote
> > Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
> > took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
> > they
> > wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> > ---
> > I'm just a little curious, why did you not contact the police department?
> > Kate
>
> I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
> thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
> scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have the
> resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be international
> in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial authorities.
>
> Amazing, isn't it?
> That's a darn shame.
>
> K.
I haven't found this snopes link in this thread yet:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp
They don't seem to be international, they ARE all international.
That's a key part of the scam.
"The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC)
requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or teller's
checks available in one to five days. Consequently, funds from checks
that might not be good are often released into payees' accounts long
before the checks have been honored by their issuing banks. High
quality forgeries can be bounced back and forth between banks for
weeks before anyone catches on to their being worthless, by which time
victims have long since wired the "overpayments" to the con artists
who have just taken them for a ride."
If the bank does accept the check and give you the money, the only way
to be safe is to hold the cash till the check actually does clear or
not clear. Which, assuming the bank doesn't spot it and refuse to cash
it, can take weeks.
I suppose one can actually make money on it by using the time it takes
to clear to invest it in something short-term and high return. But
most of those schemes are also illegal. :-)
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Curran Copeland" wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so
> I
>> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the
> items with
>> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two
> items,
>> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
> strange.
>> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you
> by UPS
>> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick
> up item,
>> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by
> UPS
>> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send
> the money
>> to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three
> checks were
>> phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I
> would
>> accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was
> up to
>> them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me
> or send
>> instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30
> odd
>> bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by
> whom? I
>> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and
> said they
>> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> All the scammer wants is your physical address.
>
> If you insist on "Huld foor pickup" at the local UPS or FedEx
> station, they go away and try to find another sucker.
>
> Lew
>
> SFWIW, I use a PO Box.
>
>
>
I use a Business address but think I will go to PO box it might be safer.
If you look closely at Craig's List there is /has been a "caution",
"disclaimer" there for quite some time. Regarding scams.. Sell locally and
you can avoid these little hiccups.
Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items
> with no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two
> items, one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
> strange.
> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up
> item, e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by
> UPS courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the
> money to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three
> checks were phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me
> that I would accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and
> shipping was up to them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one
> didn't contact me or send instructions or tell me what they were trying to
> buy, just spent 30 odd bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting
> scammed here and by whom? I took one of the checks to my bank and they
> took one look at it and said they wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is
> losing money on this?
>
"Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote
> Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
> they
> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> ---
> I'm just a little curious, why did you not contact the police department?
> Kate
I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have the
resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be international
in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial authorities.
Amazing, isn't it?
That's a darn shame.
K.
>
"marc rosen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Curran,
> I got similar responses from my CL listings. I think these people
> come from SCAMdinavia. I think they also are able to defraud UPS or
> FedEx when they ship the checks to you.
> Marc
Maybe a stolen Credit Card?
"Jerry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Dec 18, 2:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
>> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items
>> with
>> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
>> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
>> strange.
>> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by
>> UPS
>> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up
>> item,
>> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
>> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the
>> money
>
> I have sold a few things this year on Craigs List. Rule #1 for me is
> Local Only, I want to see who I'm dealing with. Rule #2 is Cash Only,
> for the reason you just described - if you fall for the bad check
> scheme, they get your item and your money.
>
> Play by those 2 rules on Craigs List, and you'll avoid most problems.
>
> Jerry
Since both items were of a largish nature and not readily shippable for the
average Joe, I did get a little concerned when one of the "buyers" wanted
it shipped to California from Kentucky. Just didn't seem like a good buy
for him to me.
On Dec 18, 9:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items with
> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were strange.
> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up item,
> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the money
> to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three checks were
> phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I would
> accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to
> them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or send
> instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd
> bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they
> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
They expect you to send them 'change', that is the difference between
the amount of their check and the purchase price and shipping costs.
Then their check will bounce. Bank checks, can 'bounce' after they
appear to have cleared, which is how that scam works.
Since you didn't fall for it, THEY lost money.
Good for you!
--
FF
"Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote
Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they
wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
---
I'm just a little curious, why did you not contact the police department?
Kate
"Fred the Red Shirt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:a8259083-1b83-4be8-9cbc-529023f2ffc4@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 18, 9:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
>> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items
>> with
>> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
>> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were
>> strange.
>> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by
>> UPS
>> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up
>> item,
>> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
>> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the
>> money
>> to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three checks
>> were
>> phony. What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I would
>> accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to
>> them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or
>> send
>> instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd
>> bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom?
>> I
>> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
>> they
>> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
>
> They expect you to send them 'change', that is the difference between
> the amount of their check and the purchase price and shipping costs.
> Then their check will bounce. Bank checks, can 'bounce' after they
> appear to have cleared, which is how that scam works.
>
> Since you didn't fall for it, THEY lost money.
>
> Good for you!
In this case the scammer got scammed. should happen more often.
On Dec 18, 4:07 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > SFWIW, I use a PO Box.
>
> I use a Business address but think I will go to PO box it might be safer.
In my opinion, craigslist is just like the paper classifieds. Cash
only and you have to pick it up (or we'll arrange something). No
shipping. Ever.
I've sold a few things through craigslist, and stocked about 1/2 my
shop through it. Table saw, Horizontal bandsaw, Thickness planer.
Drill press was through a flea market. All cash, both sides of the
transaction. Cleans up a few of the trust issues if you show up with
your pickup and a fist full of dollars.
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:54:50 -0800 (PST), Jerry
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Dec 18, 2:06 pm, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
>> thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items with
>> no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
>> one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were strange.
>> Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
>> courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up item,
>> e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
>> courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the money
>
>I have sold a few things this year on Craigs List. Rule #1 for me is
>Local Only, I want to see who I'm dealing with. Rule #2 is Cash Only,
>for the reason you just described - if you fall for the bad check
>scheme, they get your item and your money.
>
>Play by those 2 rules on Craigs List, and you'll avoid most problems.
>
>Jerry
Those are the same rules I use. This year I've sold a truck and
bought a chipper/shredder via Craig's list with no problems at all.
Amazing what face-to-face and cash can accomplish ;-)
I also picked up a 24" snow thrower with electric start on the free
section - not much call for those things in Atlanta, but my son-in-law
(n the DC area) was excited when I took it to him.
John
In article <[email protected]>, "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote:
>There is a lot of talk here from time to time about Craig's List, so I
>thought I would try to sell a couple of items on it. Listed the items with
>no trouble each one about $300 or so. Got four replies to the two items,
>one was legit but decided he didn't want it, the other three were strange.
>Two had the same line, I want your item, I will send a check to you by UPS
>courier, take your money and send rest to my shipper so he can pick up item,
>e-mail me when you get check. Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS
>courier (about $30 each to send) one had a mailing address to send the money
>to, the other two had no information at all, of course all three checks were
>phony.
Yep.
>What gets me is that I told the two that contacted me that I would
>accept a check but only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to
>them, they sent $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or send
>instructions or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd
>bucks to send me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom?
You are, by the people who sent you the checks.
>took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they
>wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
You would be, if you had fallen for the scam. The way it normally is played is
that they ask you to refund the "overpayment" by Western Union, and email them
the security code to retrieve the money -- which they can do from anywhere in
the world (most likely Nigeria). Once you send the money, it's gone. Then the
check turns out to be bogus (of course), and you're stuck.
Google "419 scam" for more information. Also see www.419eater.com and
www.bustedupcowgirl.com for some pretty funny stories of people who have
turned the tables on the scammers.
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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
What gets me curious is why were all the checks for $2900? is there
something about that amount that I am not aware of?
"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Three checks came each for $2900 by UPS courier (about $30 each to send)
>> one had a mailing address to send the money to, the other two had no
>> information at all, of course all three checks were phony. What gets me
>> is that I told the two that contacted me that I would accept a check but
>> only for the amount of purchase and shipping was up to them, they sent
>> $2900 checks anyway. The third one didn't contact me or send instructions
>> or tell me what they were trying to buy, just spent 30 odd bucks to send
>> me a bogus check. Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I took one of
>> the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said they wouldn't
>> even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
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> These scammers also do fake Post Office money orders that look good enough
> that they fool people into sending goods and forwarding part of the money
> to a "shipper" or whoever, of course when the check or money order turns
> out to be fake they get stuck for the item they sent plus the money they
> forwarded. Obviously one of the warning signs is when someone wants to
> send you more than the purchase price so you can forward money to someone
> else. Somebody suggested they have a way to defraud UPS as well, it's
> quite possible that they're using someone else's account to sent the
> checks overnight, they don't want to give their victims time to think
> about what's going on. These days it isn't just buyer beware, sellers
> have to be careful too.
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"Kate" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Curran Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote
> Who is getting scammed here and by whom? I
> took one of the checks to my bank and they took one look at it and said
> they
> wouldn't even cash it for me. So who is losing money on this?
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> I'm just a little curious, why did you not contact the police department?
> Kate
I did both the local police, State Police and Sherriff. All told me same
thing"Don't Cash the Check", they claim that there are too many of these
scams going on and they are so expensive to persue that they don't have the
resources to do any thing about them. Alot of them seem to be international
in scope and out of the venue of the local or even federial authorities.
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