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"Graham Walters"

02/04/2006 11:19 PM

Is it safe to burn...

MDF...

I have lots of small pieces of oak veneered MDF left over from my latest
project. I usually take all my scrap wood to the local dump.

My other half has recently purchased a brazier on eBay and wants to try it
out. So, my question is, is it safe to burn MDF. Not knowing what it's made
from, I wasn't sure it it would give of any nasty fumes....

Thanks in advance...

Graham


This topic has 22 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 5:05 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Graham Walters
<graham@**aceglow**.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> MDF...
>
> I have lots of small pieces of oak veneered MDF left over from my latest
> project. I usually take all my scrap wood to the local dump.

If you're burning garbage, sure. I wouldn't use it for roasting
marshmallows.

Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

03/04/2006 5:29 AM

Not in my neighborhood! The Urea glue used to bind the sawdust gives
off an alphabet of toxic gases. Formaldehyde, CO, Furol, etc.
Bugs

ba

"bremen68"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

04/04/2006 10:46 AM

I dont' think I'd want that stuff burning under anything I'd want to
eat. It kinda gives a new twist on stick to your ribs...

As for the US being the biggest polluters in the world...Nice trolling
there chief....err...bloke.

f

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

08/04/2006 11:23 AM


Rod & Betty Jo wrote:
> "Tim W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Blimey. listen to these americans! The biggest polluters in the world
> > worrying about a few scraps of MDF.
> >
> > Get back in your SUVs guys and turn the aircon up full.
>
>
> Actually we're not........Our air, water and soil are far cleaner than many
> or most other parts of the world......check out Mexico city etc.

But are you taking into account the pollution resulting from the
manufacture
of products for importation into the US from places like Mexico and
China?

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FF

f

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

08/04/2006 11:26 AM


George wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was thinking
> > Bra before looking it up. LOL
>
> Charcoal in a pan, same-o.
>
> Nothing more unsafe about _burning_ mdf than allowing slow oxidation in the
> dump. ...

I disagree.

There is a big difference in the concentrations in the air OP will be
breathing as it oxidizes.

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FF

f

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

09/04/2006 8:34 AM


George wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > George wrote:
> >> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was
> >> > thinking
> >> > Bra before looking it up. LOL
> >>
> >> Charcoal in a pan, same-o.
> >>
> >> Nothing more unsafe about _burning_ mdf than allowing slow oxidation in
> >> the
> >> dump. ...
> >
> > I disagree.
> >
> > There is a big difference in the concentrations in the air OP will be
> > breathing as it oxidizes.
> >
>
> Not a "big picture " guy, are you, Fred?

Oh, I am. But I don't believe in ignoring the little picture either.

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FF

DB

"Doug Brown"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 5:01 PM

Not strictly true. While Wikipedia is not the ultimate authority, please
see here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazier
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:19:55 +0100, "Graham Walters"
>> <graham@**aceglow**.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My other half has recently purchased a brazier on eBay and wants to try
>>>it
>>>out. So, my question is, is it safe to burn MDF. Not knowing what it's
>>>made
>>>from, I wasn't sure it it would give of any nasty fumes....
>>
>> NO!
>>
>> Especially with food over it!
>
>
> Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was thinking
> Bra before looking it up. LOL
>

RB

"Rod & Betty Jo"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

06/04/2006 11:12 PM


"Tim W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Blimey. listen to these americans! The biggest polluters in the world
> worrying about a few scraps of MDF.
>
> Get back in your SUVs guys and turn the aircon up full.
>
> Tim w
>


Actually we're not........Our air, water and soil are far cleaner than many
or most other parts of the world......check out Mexico city etc.
etc......Oddly we get a "bad" rap for our world energy use percentage but it
simply coincides with our overall production or GNP. If you provide 25% of
the worlds production you pretty much use 25% of the energy......Rod

r

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

09/04/2006 12:50 AM

Decomposition at the dump is anerobic. At the end of the day they bury the
stuff under clay.

I'm no chemist, but I don't think I'd even consider using mdf for cooking.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 10:49 PM


"Ba r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:19:55 +0100, "Graham Walters"
> <graham@**aceglow**.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>My other half has recently purchased a brazier on eBay and wants to try it
>>out. So, my question is, is it safe to burn MDF. Not knowing what it's
>>made
>>from, I wasn't sure it it would give of any nasty fumes....
>
> NO!
>
> Especially with food over it!


Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was thinking Bra
before looking it up. LOL

DD

David

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

03/04/2006 8:17 AM

mac davis wrote:
... now, if they'd
> just do something about those damn leaf blowers.. *g*
> Mac
>

yeah, especially at 7:45 AM in my neighborhood! Every Monday, I can set
my clock by the sound of a leaf blower running first to the right of my
house, and then to the left (my 2 nearest neighbors use the same gardener).

Dave

GG

"George"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

03/04/2006 7:03 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was thinking
> Bra before looking it up. LOL

Charcoal in a pan, same-o.

Nothing more unsafe about _burning_ mdf than allowing slow oxidation in the
dump. Problem comes with incomplete burning, where the gases generated are
not hot enough or confined long enough to burn. In a "roaring" fire, sure.
In a controlled charcoal situation, stay upwind as Leon says.

GG

"George"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

08/04/2006 4:21 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> George wrote:
>> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was
>> > thinking
>> > Bra before looking it up. LOL
>>
>> Charcoal in a pan, same-o.
>>
>> Nothing more unsafe about _burning_ mdf than allowing slow oxidation in
>> the
>> dump. ...
>
> I disagree.
>
> There is a big difference in the concentrations in the air OP will be
> breathing as it oxidizes.
>

Not a "big picture " guy, are you, Fred?

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

04/04/2006 11:21 AM

Tim W wrote:
>
> Get back in your SUVs guys and turn the aircon up full.
>

Not all of use fit that stereotype.

TW

"Tim W"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

03/04/2006 10:06 PM


"Graham Walters" <graham@**aceglow**.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MDF...
>
> I have lots of small pieces of oak veneered MDF
[...]

Blimey. listen to these americans! The biggest polluters in the world
worrying about a few scraps of MDF.

Get back in your SUVs guys and turn the aircon up full.

Tim w

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 10:40 PM

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:19:55 +0100, "Graham Walters"
<graham@**aceglow**.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>My other half has recently purchased a brazier on eBay and wants to try it
>out. So, my question is, is it safe to burn MDF. Not knowing what it's made
>from, I wasn't sure it it would give of any nasty fumes....

NO!

Especially with food over it!

No, no, no, no, no... <G>

Not plywood, either.

DD

David

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 8:36 PM

Leon wrote:

> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>
>>http://www.recycle.mcmail.com/burning.htm
>>i found a number of articles that indicate it isn't safe to burn.
>
>
>
> Maybe they are not in California Dave. :~)
>
> With all the resins in it I would certainly want to be UP WIND when burning
> it.
>
>
I'm waiting for them to ban our backyard BBQ's. <g>

dave

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 10:43 PM


"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
> http://www.recycle.mcmail.com/burning.htm
> i found a number of articles that indicate it isn't safe to burn.


Maybe they are not in California Dave. :~)

With all the resins in it I would certainly want to be UP WIND when burning
it.

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 11:05 PM

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:49:34 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Brazier is a metal working term, not a food term... :~) I was thinking Bra
>before looking it up. LOL
>

I'm thinking DQ! <G>

I still wouldn't burn MDF in it.

DD

David

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

02/04/2006 3:30 PM

Graham Walters wrote:

> MDF...
>
> I have lots of small pieces of oak veneered MDF left over from my latest
> project. I usually take all my scrap wood to the local dump.
>
> My other half has recently purchased a brazier on eBay and wants to try it
> out. So, my question is, is it safe to burn MDF. Not knowing what it's made
> from, I wasn't sure it it would give of any nasty fumes....
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Graham
>
>
http://www.recycle.mcmail.com/burning.htm
i found a number of articles that indicate it isn't safe to burn.

do a google search.
dave

Cc

"Chas12"

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

04/04/2006 2:16 AM

only if you like your food poisoned.
Chas

md

mac davis

in reply to "Graham Walters" on 02/04/2006 11:19 PM

03/04/2006 8:08 AM

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:36:07 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:

>Leon wrote:
>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>>
>>>http://www.recycle.mcmail.com/burning.htm
>>>i found a number of articles that indicate it isn't safe to burn.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe they are not in California Dave. :~)
>>
>> With all the resins in it I would certainly want to be UP WIND when burning
>> it.
>>
>>
>I'm waiting for them to ban our backyard BBQ's. <g>
>
>dave
In most places in CA, they banned charcoal starter years ago... now, if they'd
just do something about those damn leaf blowers.. *g*
Mac

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