Hey, a woodworking post!

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:09:37 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

Have a couple of cups of coffee and try to get your brain
involved in your posting.

basilisk

On Jun 3, 7:20=A0pm, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> The whole bed "wall" swings left, covering the window and left side
> cabinet. =A0I assume that "wall" has a caster on the bottom right.
> That's pretty neat.
>
> Sonny

Scratch that. Foot of the bed view. That's another cabinet in
another corner of the room. Still neat, though.

For a moment, I thought the bed door opened/swung to the left. I was
trying to figure out that pivot point.... LOL.

Sonny

Eric wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> Han wrote:
>> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>>
>> Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw. My 10-spot paid for
>> 25 GB in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.
>
> And all 12 people each year see it.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> [email protected]
>
> ===============
>
> And that is what is important? How many see it?

Well, I would think that it would indeed be important. Isn't that why
people post pictures? For others to see?

>
> Behaviour could get more to see it but that never seemed to be a
> concern, here. Most are already gone now.

Not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rich" wrote:
>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>> -------------------
>> get astraweb.com
>>
>> Lew
>Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks

If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.

--
Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
-- Minna Thomas Antrim

On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:58:57 -0400, willshak <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote the following:
>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>>
>>>> -------------------
>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>>
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>>
>> --
>> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
>> -- Minna Thomas Antrim
>>
>/
>/// Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
>lesson afterwards
>Vernon Sanders Law

Equally good!

This just in from email:

I stopped by the Chevrolet Dealership yesterday, for a look at the new
Silverado 2011, 1500 pickup. Just for fun, I took it out for a test
drive. I wanted to sense that new "feel" before they become extinct...

The salesman (a black man wearing an Obama "change" lapel pin) sat in
the passenger seat describing the truck and all its "wonderful"
options.. The seats were of particular interest. He explained that the
seats directed warm air to your butt in the winter and directed cool
air to your butt in the summer heat. Feeling like messing with him, I
mentioned that this must be a Republican truck.

Looking a bit angry, he asked why I thought it was a Republican truck.
I explained that if it were a Democrat truck, the seats would blow
smoke up your ass year-round.

I had to walk back to the dealership...Damn guy had no sense of humor.


--
Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
-- Minna Thomas Antrim

"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote ...
> I just finished and delivered a Murphy bed project to a customer. Pictures
> at a.b.p.w.
>
> The bed is not very exciting as the customer wanted a large flat surface
> to hang material on while assembling quilts.
>
Leon!!

Are you saying that quilts are not exciting?? Do you have ANY IDEA how much
trouble you can get into saying that around a quit person?? LOL

Just thought I would mention it.

"Rich" wrote:
> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
> A.B.P.W.???
> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
-------------------
get astraweb.com

Lew

"Rich" wrote:

> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
-----------------------------
Guess you don't go to the movies either.

Lew

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>> -------------------
>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>
ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
"not interested in paying to see pictures".
You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
Want to argue about it?
Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
Then post you are not "paying" :-/

>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>>
Larry..!..?.. persons directing "customers" to Usenet OR image
hosting sites are seriously sick puppies.
Customers are paying a margin to enable a business to be run.
That business rightly has to then supply a service which warrants
that margin.
Get a freaking website.. and keep another business in business!

Also, Larry..
Those looking to share an image, around discussion within
a news group, should always encourage a binary group to
carry their links (references) if for no other reason then
just plain old "good manners"
>
>If some one is not willing to pay a couple of dollars a year to see
>pictures that is fine with me. Chances are they are already paying way
>more for internet service than for a news server service.
>
> But seriously that actually filters out those that would not be
>serious about buying anyway.
>
How very astute of you, Leon.
Entirely accurate observation, I say.

What the rest of the comments (thread)
supporting web based viewing are
saying is "put up any old image any old how".
Bad luck when a week, a month, or next year
a reader wants to see the photo referred to.
Stiff cheese when your browser will not load
the site/page/image - for any one of a dozen
reasons.
It is *your problem* your bandwidth is being
consumed by cookies, advertising and
various other bits of web trash.
Everyone's problem their data is being used
for demographics.
"Free" image hosting..?.. get a freaking grip!
If these are indeed "Free" why are there then
so many of the useless fucking things?
The world has gone mad in it's generosity??

Yes, as you point out Leon.. Usenet binary
certainly weeds out all of those supporters of keen
navel fluff collection. Voyeurs one and all, not
worth cracker!
george
--
http://www.news.astraweb.com/signup.html
http://www.sonic-news.com/html/signup.html

Maybe the currently cheapest unlimited server;
http://www.budgetnews.net/index.php?lang=en&page=faq

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Eric wrote:

/clear the muddy WML water

>> Behaviour could get more to see it but that never seemed to be a
>> concern, here. Most are already gone now.
>
>Not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.
>
Eric appears to say it is poor behavior
which limits viewing of image links posted in
<r.w> as the "good guys" -- those who would
"go the extra mile" -- have left <r.w> because
of poor behavior by others.
A rather interesting comment from someone
who uses a browser to post to newsgroups
and from a server with a very poor
reputation in responding willingly to
complaints.

an' Mike..?.. I have set fup as you yourself have
proven to not be one that handles valid
critique well. So I save you the embarrassment
of embarrassing yourself :-/
I remind you of this comment from yourself;
"The above gibberish makes no more sense than
most of your posts."
george

On 06/07/2011 09:35 AM, Rich wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/2011 8:46 AM, Rich wrote:
>>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason
>>>>>> I did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting
>>>>> a bit hostile lately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Email [email protected]
>>>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>>>> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>
>>> Was wondering after looking at the pictures. I'm getting ready to put
>>> together a pre-made Murphy Bed for a customer. I completely remodeled the
>>> room its going into with high baseboard and custom cabinets for a 2
>>> desktop workstation area. Is it better to have the Murphy Bed sit up
>>> against the wall without the baseboard installed? I haven't installed the
>>> baseboard on that side yet and was thinking it better to have the
>>> baseboard installed up to the cabinets on either side.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>
>> Rich if the bed is like most any other fold down bed the top is going to
>> have to be securely attached to the wall. This keeps the whole thing
>> from coming down on top of you when you pull the bed down. So that you
>> can easily lift the bed back into the closed position there is a lot of
>> stored energy. When pulling the bed down that is quite a bit of force
>> pulling away from the wall at the top of the unit and probably an equal
>> amount pushing towards the wall at the bottom.
>>
>> I strongly recomend that the bed not be pushed up against the baseboard.
>> It should fit as close and flat against the wall as possible. On my
>> installation for my customer I simply cut a notch at the back bottom of
>> the bed side columns to let the base board continue unobstructed in case
>> they wanted to relocate the bed and so thew would not not have to patch
>> the base board. This also gave me some left and right leeway with out
>> having to deal with the base board. The side cabinets simply push up
>> next to the bed assy. and up to the base board.
>
> Thats what I thought. I'll install the bed and cabinets on either side
> first, then install the baseboards ( 7" high ) on each side to complete. I
> have an extra piece of baseboard already painted to fit the wall in case
> they ever decide to relocate the bed or just remove it.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
When I installed mine, I used a scrap of the baseboard to mark the
cutouts where the bed and cabinets went against the wall. Didn't want
to have to replace the baseboard if I ever move the Murphy bed, although
after wrestling the thing in from the gar^H^H^Hshop, if I move the bed
stays.

On 06/07/2011 09:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>
>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
>>> hostile lately.
>>>
>>> Email [email protected]
>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
> to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)
>
> --
> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
> -- Minna Thomas Antrim
Rockler has the hardware kit on sale for $249.

Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>George Watson wrote:
/sawn
>> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
>> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
>> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
>> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
>> Want to argue about it?
>> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
>> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
>> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
>> Then post you are not "paying" :-/
>
>Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead.
>
Oh you made much more of your "simple request"
then you now fall back on:
<[email protected]>
"why not benefit from the few things that are FREE. "
<[email protected]>
"Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks"

Post you are "not paying", OR, shut the fuck up
and LISTEN... dickhead!

>Thats what I'd expect from this newsgroup.
>
From any functioning newsgroup you can
expect to have misinformation challenged.
This is simply how Usenet works.
On one of "FREE" sites the point (argued) would be
taken down, the image removed.
You thinking this alternative is a more attractive
process?

>No I don't want to argue with a dickhead, why?
>
Why steal my material and then proceed to misuse it.
What evidence do _you_ have to state _I_ am a
dickhead?
Just as one rebuttal I am not the guy going around
with a sig which clearly states those not using Linux
are not thinkers. his reflects badly on the
"nix community" and is stereotypical of "Windows
lusers" who switch to (lame) interfaces as Kubuntu.

Go absorb the Windows V Linux argument if you
are really even remotely interested. The same theme
you tout is repeated in Google archives many
many times.. it is "Old", Rich.. very Old, and tiring :-]
From: "doliaria" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Text-only newsreader needed.
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:37:38 -0500

>This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest in
>carrying it on any further.
>
>Rich
>
I would bet that is very true as all *you* are into is
stating your opinion and no way hearing anything
which does rightly challenge that which you base
that "opinion" on.
You wont post binary, I will bet because you do
deny it is as skill you need to know to get what
*you* want. Too bad about how others struggle
to get a look in.
You wont accept you (and others) pay for *your*
laziness, avoiding the points made, in running off
at the mouth on looking to "crawl up the arse" of
those you see as "allies", and yet they are as
fucking clueless (dimwitted) as you are.

In all of it, Rich, you fail to understand that it is
exactly the aloof "fuck you it suits me" attitude
that allows arseholes like
GymmyBob/J.P. Bengi/ Josepi
a foothold in arguments between dickhead's who
have no clue on such off topic comments.
That farking dimwit is currently crippled as
Teranews.com has folded as a point of entry
to <r.w>.
He will find another, and you, and those like you,
will have learnt nothing from any of the exercises
to continue to allow him Voice.
Why? Because you are indeed a clueless dickhead
as opposed to being the annoying dickhead GB is.

Rich.. etal..
It is only those who do not know who castigate those
who do know, suffering the consequences in being
TOLD.

You go have a nice night in...
george
--
ps: Do some good and talk to that dickhead still
===================================
using WLM to join into threaded discussion and
===================================
fucking up the whole read for anyone interested
==================================
in the topic.
Hundreds of thousands have managed to get
and operate a newsreader, ask him just what his
fucking problem IS... other than simply being
PIG Ignorant!

On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>> -------------------
>>> get astraweb.com
>>>
>>> Lew
>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>
> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>

If some one is not willing to pay a couple of dollars a year to see
pictures that is fine with me. Chances are they are already paying way
more for internet service than for a news server service.

But seriously that actually filters out those that would not be
serious about buying anyway.





> --
> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
> -- Minna Thomas Antrim

On Jun 5, 7:30=A0am, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
> basilisk wrote:
> > On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:29:27 -0500, basilisk wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:09:37 -0500, HeyBub wrote:
>
> >> Have a couple of cups of coffee and try to get your brain involved in
> >> your posting.
>
> >> basilisk
>
> > Or maybe I'm humor challenged and need to get my own brain in
> > gear.
>
> Whoosh!
>
> Sorry, I was commenting on the audacity of Leon to post something about
> woodworking.

The NERVE!

On 6/7/2011 3:35 PM, Han wrote:
> Doug Winterburn<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 06/07/2011 09:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is
>>>>>> going to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to
>>>>>> you, just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the
>>>>>> main reason I did not post them to Flickr which has my better
>>>>>> pictures.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I
>>>>> asked. Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place
>>>>> is getting a bit hostile lately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Email [email protected]
>>>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera
>>>> and lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 0362/lightbox/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-7215762299196
>>>> 0362/lightbox/
>>>
>>> Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
>>> to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
>>> -- Minna Thomas Antrim
>> Rockler has the hardware kit on sale for $249.
>
> It's agood idea to look for sales and/or use a coupon for the hardware.
> The instructions are indeed good, especially when you combine the printed
> version with the video version. Do pay attention with the measuring,
> though. I made 2 extra openings for the legs/handles because of incorect
> measuring from the corners. Now covered up by blackboard inserts that
> almost completely cover the front when in the "up" position (It was/is
> for my 4 year-old grandson).
>
>
Agreed and IIRC it is stated to pay attention to the details and
measurements on the drawings. They some times differ from the video.
The video is more of a show and tell and visually answers questi9ns you
may have. The instructions are to be precicely adheared to.

Larry Jaques wrote the following:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>
>>> -------------------
>>> get astraweb.com
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>
>
> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>
> --
> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
> -- Minna Thomas Antrim
>
/
/// Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
lesson afterwards
Vernon Sanders Law

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

>>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:09:37 -0500, HeyBub wrote:
>>
>>>> Have a couple of cups of coffee and try to get your brain involved in
>>>> your posting.
>>
>>>> basilisk
>>
>>> Or maybe I'm humor challenged and need to get my own brain in
>>> gear.
>>
>> Whoosh!
>>

Sorry, I was commenting on the audacity of Leon to post something about
woodworking.

LOL, awful balls'y I was. And apparently a few took exception to me
posting it past their pay grade. ;~)

On 6/7/2011 8:46 AM, Rich wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>
>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a
>>> bit hostile lately.
>>>
>>> Email [email protected]
>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>
>>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> Was wondering after looking at the pictures. I'm getting ready to put
> together a pre-made Murphy Bed for a customer. I completely remodeled the
> room its going into with high baseboard and custom cabinets for a 2 desktop
> workstation area. Is it better to have the Murphy Bed sit up against the
> wall without the baseboard installed? I haven't installed the baseboard on
> that side yet and was thinking it better to have the baseboard installed up
> to the cabinets on either side.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>

Rich if the bed is like most any other fold down bed the top is going to
have to be securely attached to the wall. This keeps the whole thing
from coming down on top of you when you pull the bed down. So that you
can easily lift the bed back into the closed position there is a lot of
stored energy. When pulling the bed down that is quite a bit of force
pulling away from the wall at the top of the unit and probably an equal
amount pushing towards the wall at the bottom.

I strongly recomend that the bed not be pushed up against the baseboard.
It should fit as close and flat against the wall as possible. On my
installation for my customer I simply cut a notch at the back bottom of
the bed side columns to let the base board continue unobstructed in case
they wanted to relocate the bed and so thew would not not have to patch
the base board. This also gave me some left and right leeway with out
having to deal with the base board. The side cabinets simply push up
next to the bed assy. and up to the base board.

On 6/6/2011 12:04 PM, Rich wrote:
> George Watson wrote:
>
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lew
>>>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>>
>> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
>> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
>> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
>> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
>> Want to argue about it?
>> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
>> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
>> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
>> Then post you are not "paying" :-/
>
> Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead. Thats what I'd
> expect from this newsgroup. No I don't want to argue with a dickhead, why?
> This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest in
> carrying it on any further.
>
> Rich


FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
to be pleased no matter what I do.
BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.

Rich <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Leon wrote:
>
>> I just finished and delivered a Murphy bed project to a customer.
>> Pictures at a.b.p.w.
>
> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then A.B.P.W.???
> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>
>> The bed is not very exciting as the customer wanted a large flat surface
>> to hang material on while assembling quilts.
>>
>> I do like the towers however and all the Arkansas walnut pulls. I used
>> the same design pulls as my, earlier last year, bedroom project that I
>> built for my wife and I. I used Cherry for those pulls.

I paid Astraweb $10 in June of 2008 for 25GB of downloads, and I still have
more than 24 GB left to download. Good retention, and in the time I've had
Astraweb maybe 2 times that the servers weren't accessible fora few hours
each.

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Han
email address is invalid

Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

<snip>
>
> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.

Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw. My 10-spot paid for 25 GB
in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.

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Han
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Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 06/07/2011 09:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is
>>>>> going to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to
>>>>> you, just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the
>>>>> main reason I did not post them to Flickr which has my better
>>>>> pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I
>>>> asked. Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place
>>>> is getting a bit hostile lately.
>>>>
>>>> Email [email protected]
>>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera
>>> and lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 0362/lightbox/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-7215762299196
>>> 0362/lightbox/
>>
>> Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
>> to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)
>>
>> --
>> Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
>> -- Minna Thomas Antrim
> Rockler has the hardware kit on sale for $249.

It's agood idea to look for sales and/or use a coupon for the hardware.
The instructions are indeed good, especially when you combine the printed
version with the video version. Do pay attention with the measuring,
though. I made 2 extra openings for the legs/handles because of incorect
measuring from the corners. Now covered up by blackboard inserts that
almost completely cover the front when in the "up" position (It was/is
for my 4 year-old grandson).


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 6/6/2011 10:30 PM, Rich wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/2011 12:04 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> George Watson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lew
>>>>>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>>>>
>>>> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
>>>> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
>>>> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
>>>> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
>>>> Want to argue about it?
>>>> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
>>>> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
>>>> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
>>>> Then post you are not "paying" :-/
>>>
>>> Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead. Thats what
>>> I'd expect from this newsgroup. No I don't want to argue with a dickhead,
>>> why? This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest
>>> in carrying it on any further.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>>
>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>
> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
> hostile lately.

Any time you want to see something make it a point to ask me specifically.

>>
>>
>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>
> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
> hostile lately.
>
> Email [email protected]
> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/



Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
lighting, so I added them to Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/

Probably just as well, best to keep the ten year olds away from power
tools.

Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>
> Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw. My 10-spot paid for
> 25 GB in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.

And all 12 people each year see it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

The whole bed "wall" swings left, covering the window and left side
cabinet. I assume that "wall" has a caster on the bottom right.
That's pretty neat.

Sonny

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>
>>>
>>>
>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>
>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
>> hostile lately.
>>
>> Email [email protected]
>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>
>
>
>Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/

Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)

--
Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
-- Minna Thomas Antrim

basilisk wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:29:27 -0500, basilisk wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:09:37 -0500, HeyBub wrote:
>>
>> Have a couple of cups of coffee and try to get your brain involved in
>> your posting.
>>
>> basilisk
>
> Or maybe I'm humor challenged and need to get my own brain in
> gear.
>

Whoosh!

Sorry, I was commenting on the audacity of Leon to post something about
woodworking.

Leon wrote:

> I just finished and delivered a Murphy bed project to a customer.
> Pictures at a.b.p.w.

Could you post these pictures on some other site other then A.B.P.W.???
My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>
> The bed is not very exciting as the customer wanted a large flat surface
> to hang material on while assembling quilts.
>
> I do like the towers however and all the Arkansas walnut pulls. I used
> the same design pulls as my, earlier last year, bedroom project that I
> built for my wife and I. I used Cherry for those pulls.

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but you can't make them THINK"

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KDE4.4
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

>
> "Rich" wrote:
>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>> A.B.P.W.???
>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
> -------------------
> get astraweb.com
>
> Lew
Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
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but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
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Leon wrote:

> On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>> -------------------
>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>>
>
> If some one is not willing to pay a couple of dollars a year to see
> pictures that is fine with me. Chances are they are already paying way
> more for internet service than for a news server service.
>
> But seriously that actually filters out those that would not be
> serious about buying anyway.

If thats your story then ok. I feel if your paying for internet service
anyway why not fully utilize it to "you're" benefit. When it comes to
accessing the Internet thats the only thing I want to pay for. My website
hosting is free, my off site hard drive storage is free, and theres many
sites that host pictures for free. Hell my Operating System is Free. I put
out enough money why not benefit from the few things that are FREE.



--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

On 6/4/11 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>> -------------------
>>> get astraweb.com
>>>
>>> Lew
>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>
> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>

There are a gazillion *free* web based picture galleries out there that
I see no reason whatsoever to put them on a newsgroup.... *especially*
if people now have to pay for binary service. Antiquated.



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 6/4/11 6:15 PM, Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>
> Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw. My 10-spot paid for 25 GB
> in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.
>

Why pay *anything* when there are a ton of *free* galleries out there that
are MUCH better for the viewer and user?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 6/4/11 10:21 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> Others make you sign in, which is a PITA.
>

That constitutes a PITA in your life? really?

BTW you have to sign in to newsgroups, too. But you probably have your
username and password already in your newsreader settings and it signs
in automatically..... which is the same thing *any* web browser worth
its salt does using the cookies the website stores in the browser's
preference file.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Han wrote:
> Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>
> Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw. My 10-spot paid for
> 25 GB in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.

And all 12 people each year see it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

===============

And that is what is important? How many see it?

Behaviour could get more to see it but that never seemed to be a concern,
here. Most are already gone now.

--

Eric

Lew Hodgett wrote:

> "Rich" wrote:
>
>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
> -----------------------------
> Guess you don't go to the movies either.
>
> Lew

Don't remember the last movie I saw. After thinking hard on the subject I
came up with Matrix Reloaded. How many years ago was that? Guess your right!
--
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but you can't make them THINK"

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KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

George Watson wrote:

> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>> -------------------
>>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Lew
>>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>
> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
> Want to argue about it?
> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
> Then post you are not "paying" :-/

Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead. Thats what I'd
expect from this newsgroup. No I don't want to argue with a dickhead, why?
This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest in
carrying it on any further.

Rich
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

Larry Kraus wrote:

> Probably just as well, best to keep the ten year olds away from power
> tools.

Guess you could call it an Anthony Weiner moment!
--
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but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

Leon wrote:

> On 6/6/2011 12:04 PM, Rich wrote:
>> George Watson wrote:
>>
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lew
>>>>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>>>
>>> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
>>> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
>>> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
>>> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
>>> Want to argue about it?
>>> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
>>> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
>>> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
>>> Then post you are not "paying" :-/
>>
>> Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead. Thats what
>> I'd expect from this newsgroup. No I don't want to argue with a dickhead,
>> why? This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest
>> in carrying it on any further.
>>
>> Rich
>
>
> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
> to be pleased no matter what I do.
> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.

Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
hostile lately.

Email [email protected]
website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

"Rich" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

Leon wrote:

> On 6/6/2011 12:04 PM, Rich wrote:
>> George Watson wrote:
>>
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>>> On 6/4/2011 11:04 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:28:29 -0700, Rich<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Could you post these pictures on some other site other then
>>>>>>>> A.B.P.W.???
>>>>>>>> My News server doesn't make Binaries available to me.
>>>>>>> -------------------
>>>>>>> get astraweb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lew
>>>>>> Not interested in paying to see pictures. thanks but no thanks
>>>>
>>> ahhh, Rich... tut tut, newbie.
>>> Turn off "view images" in your browser config, where you are
>>> "not interested in paying to see pictures".
>>> You are "paying" at every click on a link.. dickhead.
>>> Want to argue about it?
>>> Go look at your browser cache, add up the bytes for all the
>>> gifs,jpgs,pngs (etc) and factor that size (number) by your ISP
>>> payment for X bytes of bandwidth per month.
>>> Then post you are not "paying" :-/
>>
>> Lets see I make a simple request and I get called dickhead. Thats what
>> I'd expect from this newsgroup. No I don't want to argue with a dickhead,
>> why? This post in my opinion has gotten off topic, and I have no interest
>> in carrying it on any further.
>>
>> Rich
>
>
> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
> to be pleased no matter what I do.
> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.

Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
hostile lately.

=============

Don't let one rotten apple spoil the whole barrel.

--

Eric

Leon wrote:

>
>>>
>>>
>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>
>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a
>> bit hostile lately.
>>
>> Email [email protected]
>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>
>
>
> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/

Was wondering after looking at the pictures. I'm getting ready to put
together a pre-made Murphy Bed for a customer. I completely remodeled the
room its going into with high baseboard and custom cabinets for a 2 desktop
workstation area. Is it better to have the Murphy Bed sit up against the
wall without the baseboard installed? I haven't installed the baseboard on
that side yet and was thinking it better to have the baseboard installed up
to the cabinets on either side.

Thanks,
Rich

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but you can't make them THINK"

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KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

Leon wrote:

> On 6/7/2011 8:46 AM, Rich wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason
>>>>> I did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting
>>>> a bit hostile lately.
>>>>
>>>> Email [email protected]
>>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>>> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>>
>>>
>>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>>
>>>
>>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> Was wondering after looking at the pictures. I'm getting ready to put
>> together a pre-made Murphy Bed for a customer. I completely remodeled the
>> room its going into with high baseboard and custom cabinets for a 2
>> desktop workstation area. Is it better to have the Murphy Bed sit up
>> against the wall without the baseboard installed? I haven't installed the
>> baseboard on that side yet and was thinking it better to have the
>> baseboard installed up to the cabinets on either side.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>
> Rich if the bed is like most any other fold down bed the top is going to
> have to be securely attached to the wall. This keeps the whole thing
> from coming down on top of you when you pull the bed down. So that you
> can easily lift the bed back into the closed position there is a lot of
> stored energy. When pulling the bed down that is quite a bit of force
> pulling away from the wall at the top of the unit and probably an equal
> amount pushing towards the wall at the bottom.
>
> I strongly recomend that the bed not be pushed up against the baseboard.
> It should fit as close and flat against the wall as possible. On my
> installation for my customer I simply cut a notch at the back bottom of
> the bed side columns to let the base board continue unobstructed in case
> they wanted to relocate the bed and so thew would not not have to patch
> the base board. This also gave me some left and right leeway with out
> having to deal with the base board. The side cabinets simply push up
> next to the bed assy. and up to the base board.

Thats what I thought. I'll install the bed and cabinets on either side
first, then install the baseboards ( 7" high ) on each side to complete. I
have an extra piece of baseboard already painted to fit the wall in case
they ever decide to relocate the bed or just remove it.

Thanks,
Rich
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but you can't make them THINK"

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 09:29:27 -0500, basilisk wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:09:37 -0500, HeyBub wrote:
>
> Have a couple of cups of coffee and try to get your brain involved in
> your posting.
>
> basilisk

Or maybe I'm humor challenged and need to get my own brain in
gear.

basilisk



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"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason
>>>> I
>>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>
>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a
>>> bit
>>> hostile lately.
>>>
>>> Email [email protected]
>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>
>>
>>
>>Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>>lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
> to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)
>
I have the hardware I just haven't built the bed yet. Once you look in the
box, the $300.00 price tag seems rather reasonable. The hardware package is
very complete and well made. The instructions are the best I have seen in a
long time.

On 04 Jun 2011 23:15:14 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
><snip>
>>
>> If people want others to see their work, especially customers, it
>> would be beneficial to them to put them anywhere but ABPW.
>
>Come on, for $10 you can get 75 years of abpw.

Yabbut, it's one pic posted and then at least seventy five "Kudo"
posts praising it, even if the Pièce de Résistance is a flipping bird
house made of pineywood, or some silly bow saur. Crikey...


>My 10-spot paid for 25 GB
>in June of 2008. I still have 24 GB to go.

But most clients don't have newsgroup awareness or access. Free
picture posting sites are all over the internet and they're great.
Some folks post pics on their own websites, too, which is better.

http://www.google.com/search?q=free+picture+hosting

Some, like Google, make you use their proprietary programs (Picasa,
etc.) which can be a real PITA.

Others make you sign in, which is a PITA.

Flickr, ImageShack, and PhotoBucket are pretty cool.


--
Experience is a good teacher, but she send in terrific bills.
-- Minna Thomas Antrim

"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>> I just finished and delivered a Murphy bed project to a customer.
>> Pictures at a.b.p.w.
>>

Spammer????? You can't be talking about Leon.

Leon wrote:
> I just finished and delivered a Murphy bed project to a customer.
> Pictures at a.b.p.w.
>
> The bed is not very exciting as the customer wanted a large flat
> surface to hang material on while assembling quilts.
>
> I do like the towers however and all the Arkansas walnut pulls. I
> used the same design pulls as my, earlier last year, bedroom project
> that I built for my wife and I. I used Cherry for those pulls.

On 6/7/2011 11:32 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:54:16 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FTR Rich I don't think you are a DH. ;~) But, not every one is going
>>>> to be pleased no matter what I do.
>>>> BUT if you would like I would be happy to e-mail the pictures to you,
>>>> just let me know. They are not wonderful pictures and the main reason I
>>>> did not post them to Flickr which has my better pictures.
>>>
>>> Thats cool Leon. I always enjoy seeing your work and thats why I asked.
>>> Thats obvious about not pleasing the masses. But this place is getting a bit
>>> hostile lately.
>>>
>>> Email [email protected]
>>> website http://rentmyhusband.biz/
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually my customer e-mailed me these pictures with a better camera and
>> lighting, so I added them to Flickr.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616639/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/5807616813/in/set-72157622991960362/lightbox/
>
> Sweet! How do you like that style of Murphy hardware? Are they easy
> to install? (How can they get nearly $300 for that?)

Well first off the kit comes with a rather complex and detailed set of
plans for the bed. There is a separate set of plans for both a particle
board construction and plywood construct bed.

Then there is a separate set of plans for suggestions of how to add
other pieces to complement the bed and different molding suggestions for
the bed.

The there is a DVD that goes for about an hour with detailed
instructions also.

Then there are the hinges for the legs the HD pivot plates for the to
hing on, ball joint attachment plates for theboth sides of the bed and
the casing tower sides.

Nuts, bolts, and washers. Mattress retainer straps and bed swing stops.

Then to top it all off there is a 10 year warranty on the parts.

Installation is really easy with a helper and after you carry the thing
to the ropom it will be set up in. Manuvering it to the room is really
the hardest part. There is a strict order of assembly of the components
to prevent an accident/it toppling down top of you.

I would buy it again in a heart beat, the parts are average to high
quality and the instructions are spot on in detail.

The kit is also available so that it pivots down from one side rather
from the head end. This makes the unit shorter in height but longer in
width.