Having watched several new TOH and ATOH
episodes, I think that Kevin's going to
do ok. I really like the fact that he's
doing a fair amount of work, sort of the
"lackey" on the job. Richard once referred
to him as his assistant when they put
in the new hotwater heater on the first ATOH
show. That's kinda of his position. The
guys are getting older (who isn't) and it
appears they will be doing less and less
as the time goes on. So having Kevin
providing the muscle to their brains
and experience seems to work ok for me.
Sure, we will all miss Steve (or some will)
but Kevin's ok.
Watcha all think?
MJ Wallace
BTW: Norm's lost a lot of weight - any guess to his
"secret"? Atkins, Weight Watchers, etc?
"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Having watched several new TOH and ATOH
> episodes, I think that Kevin's going to
> do ok. I really like the fact that he's
> doing a fair amount of work, sort of the
> "lackey" on the job.
> Watcha all think?
I agree, he seems to "fit in" much better after two weeks than Steve Thomas
did after 12 years.
Ed
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Having watched several new TOH and ATOH
>> episodes, I think that Kevin's going to
>> do ok. I really like the fact that he's
>> doing a fair amount of work, sort of the
>> "lackey" on the job.
>> Watcha all think?
>
> I agree, he seems to "fit in" much better after two weeks than Steve
> Thomas did after 12 years.
> Ed
>
>
I don't understand the "Steve Jihadists". Quite frankly, I had to remind
myself that it wasn't Steve on the last episode I saw.
He sounds like steve, talks like steve and walks like steve....
Jim & 'admin':
Re: AC/DC; - Not In THIS Lifetime Baby ! ; ^ )
Warmly - If Likewise Dementedly, Griz
<[email protected]>
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On 29 Oct 2003 16:03:18 -0800, [email protected] (MJ Wallace) wrote:
"Having watched several new TOH and ATOH
"episodes, I think that Kevin's going to
"do ok. I really like the fact that he's
"doing a fair amount of work, sort of the
""lackey" on the job. Richard once referred
"to him as his assistant when they put
"in the new hotwater heater on the first ATOH
"show. That's kinda of his position. The
"guys are getting older (who isn't) and it
"appears they will be doing less and less
"as the time goes on. So having Kevin
"providing the muscle to their brains
"and experience seems to work ok for me.
"
"Sure, we will all miss Steve (or some will)
"but Kevin's ok.
"
"Watcha all think?
"
"MJ Wallace
"
"BTW: Norm's lost a lot of weight - any guess to his
""secret"? Atkins, Weight Watchers, etc?
To All:
'Sorry... This Was SUPPOSED To Go To Another Thread.
My Mistake.
Warmly, Griz
<[email protected]
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:45:06 -0800, Griz <[email protected]> wrote:
"
"
"
"Jim & 'admin':
"
"Re: AC/DC; - Not In THIS Lifetime Baby ! ; ^ )
"
"
" Warmly - If Likewise Dementedly, Griz
" <[email protected]>
"
"------------------------------------------------------------
"
"
"On 29 Oct 2003 16:03:18 -0800, [email protected] (MJ Wallace) wrote:
"
""Having watched several new TOH and ATOH
""episodes, I think that Kevin's going to
""do ok. I really like the fact that he's
""doing a fair amount of work, sort of the
"""lackey" on the job. Richard once referred
""to him as his assistant when they put
""in the new hotwater heater on the first ATOH
""show. That's kinda of his position. The
""guys are getting older (who isn't) and it
""appears they will be doing less and less
""as the time goes on. So having Kevin
""providing the muscle to their brains
""and experience seems to work ok for me.
""
""Sure, we will all miss Steve (or some will)
""but Kevin's ok.
""
""Watcha all think?
""
""MJ Wallace
""
""BTW: Norm's lost a lot of weight - any guess to his
"""secret"? Atkins, Weight Watchers, etc?
I gotta quit drinking coffee while reading these things!
Tom Watson wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:23:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >He is not writing the scripts, some idiot is and thinks some of the cutesy
> >stuff is funny. As for pointing out the obvious, that is always a problem
> >with that type of show. Who do you gear the script to?
>
> Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is currently upon
> us I think it's time for a real show about residential construction
> projects.
>
> A kind of This Old @#$% House.
>
> Get a real contractor, who never lifted anything heavier than a skirt
> in his whole life and have him running a real crew of tower of babel
> subcontractors.
>
> Lock them all up inside a chainlink fence with the customers and watch
> the blood flow.
>
> Have to be on cable, I'm thinking.
>
> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:23:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>He is not writing the scripts, some idiot is and thinks some of the cutesy
>stuff is funny. As for pointing out the obvious, that is always a problem
>with that type of show. Who do you gear the script to?
Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is currently upon
us I think it's time for a real show about residential construction
projects.
A kind of This Old @#$% House.
Get a real contractor, who never lifted anything heavier than a skirt
in his whole life and have him running a real crew of tower of babel
subcontractors.
Lock them all up inside a chainlink fence with the customers and watch
the blood flow.
Have to be on cable, I'm thinking.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
Tom Watson writes:
>>He is not writing the scripts, some idiot is and thinks some of the cutesy
>>stuff is funny. As for pointing out the obvious, that is always a problem
>>with that type of show. Who do you gear the script to?
>
>Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is currently upon
>us I think it's time for a real show about residential construction
>projects.
>
>A kind of This Old @#$% House.
>
>Get a real contractor, who never lifted anything heavier than a skirt
>in his whole life and have him running a real crew of tower of babel
>subcontractors.
>
>Lock them all up inside a chainlink fence with the customers and watch
>the blood flow.
>
>Have to be on cable, I'm thinking.
I bet you have a nomination for @#$% contractor. So do I, except he's a
restoration guy, not a renovation guy.
Charlie Self
"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
common." Satchel Paige
On 30 Oct 2003 22:10:13 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>
>I bet you have a nomination for @#$% contractor. So do I, except he's a
>restoration guy, not a renovation guy.
Trial Script For This Old @#$% House.
(A rusted El Camino <note: is that redundant> pulls up to the address
of the current victim <maybe 'client' would be better?>
(Tight shot of imitation Rolex on the Contractor's arm as he debarks
from El Camino)
(Voice Over - "Where the @#$% is the @##%ing electrician? I need that
@#$%ing @#$%hole here now!")
(Sound - El Camino door closing with a rusty thump)
(Tight shot of Burt the Contractor's face, a purplish potato of wasted
veined apoplexy)
(Sound - I'm not @#$%ing kidding. I want that @#$%ing electrician
here now!")
(Voice from background - Appalachian dialect - "We have to do the
demolition first, Burt.")
(Voice over with house in background - "That @#$% can do his own
@#$%ing demolition, I get a payout when that @#$%electrical work is
complete.")
(Sound - Sink being torn out by the roots)
(Establishing shot - Burt in kitchen with sink that is being torn out
by it's roots)
(Voice - Burt- "WTF are you @#$%holes doing to that sink?)
(Voice - Spanglish -"The plumber told us to not sweat it.")
(Voice - Second Voice - Indian - "I am thinking that he told us to
unsweat the joints, very much.")
(Sound - Burt - "Who the @#$% told you to take a @#$%ing sink out
that way? Cut those @#$% supplies with a @#$%Sawzall like I told you
to!! I get a payout when the @##%ing plumbing is complete!"))
(commercial)
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson
toolmiser
>.... Kevin is constantly pointing out the obvious, and
> knowing his limited background it's insulting my intelligance. Just my
> opinion.
But don't you think that is the role he plays - the limited
background guy? I think they also chose him because he's younger
than the team and can ask the "stupid" questions. Be curious
to know the TOH demographics. How many viewers do their
own remodelling or building? I found that in building our
new house, watching the show for close to 15 years has paid off -
I understand the vocabulary and can communicate better with
our contractor. I also get a feel how good he (my contractor)
really is as well. TOH has helped me. Perhaps others as well.
MJ Wallace
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:23:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"ToolMiser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>> I don't like the new host. He talks continously, acting like a puppet.
>He
>> seems way to scripted. Kevin is constantly pointing out the obvious, and
>> knowing his limited background it's insulting my intelligance. Just my
>> opinion.
>
>Nothing wrong with not liking him, but I'm not sure if you have the right
>reasons.
>
>He is not writing the scripts, some idiot is and thinks some of the cutesy
>stuff is funny.
I am NOT an idiot.
Thank you,
Russ
"ToolMiser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I don't like the new host. He talks continously, acting like a puppet.
He
> seems way to scripted. Kevin is constantly pointing out the obvious, and
> knowing his limited background it's insulting my intelligance. Just my
> opinion.
Nothing wrong with not liking him, but I'm not sure if you have the right
reasons.
He is not writing the scripts, some idiot is and thinks some of the cutesy
stuff is funny. As for pointing out the obvious, that is always a problem
with that type of show. Who do you gear the script to? Based on the type of
houses and projects they do, I'm sure that many of the PBS viewers are upper
income types that know all about banking and trust funds, but don't know
what end of a hammer to use to drive screws. Most of the people on this
newsgroup are above average when it comes to home repairs and tool use.
Maybe after a few episodes they'll turn him loose to think on his own.
Come to think of it, in all the houses they toured, have you ever seen a
roll of duct tape?
Ed
Tom Watson wrote:
> Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is currently upon
> us I think it's time for a real show about residential construction
> projects.
>
> A kind of This Old @#$% House.
>
> Get a real contractor, who never lifted anything heavier than a skirt
> in his whole life and have him running a real crew of tower of babel
> subcontractors.
>
> Lock them all up inside a chainlink fence with the customers and watch
> the blood flow.
>
> Have to be on cable, I'm thinking.
ROTFL!
Time for another newsgroup serial, don't you think? <G>
-- Mark
I don't know what the demos are but I will guess that PBS thinks that TOH is
showing Joe six pack. Just look at what happens every time PBS has their
annual (every 3 month) beg-a-thon. Off goes TOH on comes touchy feely or
highbrow show.
I would like to see more detail and less fashion show.
Ken G --
Remember 9/11
God Bless US
"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> toolmiser
>
> >.... Kevin is constantly pointing out the obvious, and
> > knowing his limited background it's insulting my intelligance. Just my
> > opinion.
>
> But don't you think that is the role he plays - the limited
> background guy? I think they also chose him because he's younger
> than the team and can ask the "stupid" questions. Be curious
> to know the TOH demographics. How many viewers do their
> own remodelling or building? I found that in building our
> new house, watching the show for close to 15 years has paid off -
> I understand the vocabulary and can communicate better with
> our contractor. I also get a feel how good he (my contractor)
> really is as well. TOH has helped me. Perhaps others as well.
>
> MJ Wallace
Tom ...
<<Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is currently upon
us I think it's time for a real show about residential construction
projects.
A kind of This Old @#$% House.
Get a real contractor, who never lifted anything heavier than a skirt
in his whole life and have him running a real crew of tower of babel
subcontractors.
Lock them all up inside a chainlink fence with the customers and watch
the blood flow.>>
That show already exists. It's called "Dream House" and it's on HGTV.
Lee
Tom Watson <[email protected]> said:
> Yeah, with the tidal wave of reality television that is
> currently upon us I think it's time for a real show about
> residential construction projects.
That was TOH in the early days, when it was good. It's very boring
now, too many big historical projects, they need to get back to Joe
Schmoe houses.
--
McQualude
ToolMiser wrote:
> I don't like the new host. He talks continously, acting like a puppet.
How many hosts have there been since Bob Vila? He was the host the last
time I watched that show.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
<<I don't like the new host. He talks continously, acting like a puppet.
He
seems way to scripted. Kevin is constantly pointing out the obvious, and
knowing his limited background it's insulting my intelligance. Just my
opinion.>>
I think he points out the obvious because, at the moment, that's all he
knows. I still think the producers missed the boat by not making his wife
the host, or at least the co-host.
BTW, "intelligence" is spelled with an "e." <g>
Lee
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To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:23:16 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> houses and projects they do, I'm sure that many of the PBS viewers are upper
> income types that know all about banking and trust funds, but don't know
> what end of a hammer to use to drive screws. Most of the people on this
> newsgroup are above average when it comes to home repairs and tool use.
>
Bah! EVERYONE knows you grip the screw with the claw and swing it
around, right?