I was discussing pine cage construction with someone and asked whether he
used kiln-dried wood, or just picked up whatever pine was at the store. His
reply was, "The pine I used was kiln dried from a hardware store - if its
not kiln dried it could contain phenol oils which could cause problems."
(He is in England). This might answer the question someone was trying to
find out about turpentines being driven off by a kiln. I don't know if the
"phenol oils" are the answer, but could be.
I wonder if smaller hardware stores or real lumber yards might have
kiln-dried as compared to HD or Lowes.
dwhite
"Dan White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > I apologize for my bad advice. Phenols?
> >
>
> Can't say I know anything about what kind of chemicals are found in wood,
> but turpentine is in there I suppose phenols could be, too. Maybe I'll
ask
> the other guy where he got his information.
>
> dwhite
>
>
Pine _used_ to be treated with pentachlorophenol to kill bluestain fungus.
Imagine kiln-drying would have accelerated its vaporization.
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/techline/ii-2.pdf
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > I got some feedback from a chin book author who said, "it is from our
> > book,
> > from another citation on lab research, it is the volatile oils in pine
and
> > other woods that causes respiratory problems in small animals." So,
there
> > appear to be a couple of sources (maybe not independent) that mention
> > phenol
> > oils.
> >
> But we still don't know if the drying method affects phenols...
>
Well I think the inference is that the kiln drying volatilizes the oils,
driving them off. The question is whether they will volatilize on their own
over time at ambient temps.
dwhite
I don't have an chinchillas but was amused at the controversy a few days ago
so I DAGS and found this link.
http://groups.msn.com/GraniteCityChinchillas/toysandtreats.msnw
"Dan White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was discussing pine cage construction with someone and asked whether he
> used kiln-dried wood, or just picked up whatever pine was at the store.
His
> reply was, "The pine I used was kiln dried from a hardware store - if its
> not kiln dried it could contain phenol oils which could cause problems."
> (He is in England). This might answer the question someone was trying to
> find out about turpentines being driven off by a kiln. I don't know if
the
> "phenol oils" are the answer, but could be.
>
> I wonder if smaller hardware stores or real lumber yards might have
> kiln-dried as compared to HD or Lowes.
>
> dwhite
>
>
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I apologize for my bad advice. Phenols?
>
Can't say I know anything about what kind of chemicals are found in wood,
but turpentine is in there I suppose phenols could be, too. Maybe I'll ask
the other guy where he got his information.
dwhite
> I got some feedback from a chin book author who said, "it is from our
> book,
> from another citation on lab research, it is the volatile oils in pine and
> other woods that causes respiratory problems in small animals." So, there
> appear to be a couple of sources (maybe not independent) that mention
> phenol
> oils.
>
But we still don't know if the drying method affects phenols...
"Dan White" <[email protected]> wrote in
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<snip>
> I wonder if smaller hardware stores or real lumber yards might have
> kiln-dried as compared to HD or Lowes.
>
I can buy it from the 'real lumberyard' here. It isn't inexpensive, but
then, how much do you really need?
Patriarch
"Doug Goulden" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I don't have an chinchillas but was amused at the controversy a few days
ago
> so I DAGS and found this link.
> http://groups.msn.com/GraniteCityChinchillas/toysandtreats.msnw
I got some feedback from a chin book author who said, "it is from our book,
from another citation on lab research, it is the volatile oils in pine and
other woods that causes respiratory problems in small animals." So, there
appear to be a couple of sources (maybe not independent) that mention phenol
oils.
Yes, chins are amusing, and I'm also finding them pretty unpredictable.
dwhite
>
>
> "Dan White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I was discussing pine cage construction with someone and asked whether
he
> > used kiln-dried wood, or just picked up whatever pine was at the store.
> His
> > reply was, "The pine I used was kiln dried from a hardware store - if
its
> > not kiln dried it could contain phenol oils which could cause problems."
> > (He is in England). This might answer the question someone was trying
to
> > find out about turpentines being driven off by a kiln. I don't know if
> the
> > "phenol oils" are the answer, but could be.
> >
> > I wonder if smaller hardware stores or real lumber yards might have
> > kiln-dried as compared to HD or Lowes.
> >
> > dwhite
> >
> >
>
>