I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available (in
Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I am
new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these lines.
Thank you,
"David Liles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I just need a name of the best product available (in
> Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together).
Some guys use fancy sissy looking joints and carefully fit parts together
but that takes too much time. You'd never get it done in time for hockey
season. Best thing I've found it nails. A 16d nail with a big head holds
together anything I've build so far. Simple and cheap and only one tool
need, a 20 ounce hammer..
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<%[email protected]>...
> "David Liles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > I just need a name of the best product available (in
> > Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together).
>
> Some guys use fancy sissy looking joints and carefully fit parts together
> but that takes too much time. You'd never get it done in time for hockey
> season. Best thing I've found it nails. A 16d nail with a big head holds
> together anything I've build so far. Simple and cheap and only one tool
> need, a 20 ounce hammer..
I guess if you are framing a house, yes, but for an entertainement
centre, one might want a nicer finish and something that will hold
together at least until the next superbowl.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:40:42 GMT, "David Liles"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I was thinking of using a mortise and tenon joint.
>I was just wondering what the best type of adhesive would be.
>I've seen people use different types of epoxy, and glues, as I watch many of
>the different shows on HGTV (ie: Jon Eakes, Home Again, and the New Yankee
>Workshop).
>
>I will take your advice and go to the public library anyways.
>I am a grade 10 student, and am taking shop class, so my skills are fine.
>
>Thanks for your (and everyone else's) responses,
>David Liles
>
Well David, Welcome to rec.woodworking. as you can see, there are
plenty of us here who would like to jabber on about woodworking. if
possible, stick around. don't mind the trolls, just don't feed them.
feel free to ask questions as you go along- I'm sure you'll get some
good answers along with the usual smartass comments....
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:55:31 GMT, "David Liles"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
>entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available (in
>Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I am
>new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these lines.
>
>Thank you,
>
are you asking for recommendations for glue?
http://tinyurl.com/4dc8b
or fasteners?
http://tinyurl.com/5wqe3
or joinery?
http://tinyurl.com/43qa5
In article <DmTMc.1218449$Ar.170048
@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, [email protected]
says...
> I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
> entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available (in
> Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I am
> new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these lines.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
Hello David
Joining two piece of wood is called, well, It's called joining or
jointing. Other then milling the wood it is the most basic and important
thing you have to do in woodworking.
As such the means and methods to join to pieces of wood together are
legion and extremely varied. I respectfully suggest, due to the nature
of the question, that you would be better served by a trip to the local
library or book store followed by some considerable bit of time studying
the information that one can find on woodworking in such places.
Presumably, after that is accomplished, you will be able to come back
and not only ask intelligent questions but will also have some base of
knowledge that will allow you to understand the answers.
It isn't rocket science but, then again, it isn't paint by numbers
either and will require you extend yourself a bit if you wish to
successfully take up the avocation. This is especially true if you wish
to become a woodworker that still has five whole fingers per hand.
--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
[email protected]
In article <uNVMc.1220350$Ar.600696
@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, [email protected]
says...
> I was thinking of using a mortise and tenon joint.
> I was just wondering what the best type of adhesive would be.
> I've seen people use different types of epoxy, and glues, as I watch many of
> the different shows on HGTV (ie: Jon Eakes, Home Again, and the New Yankee
> Workshop).
>
> I will take your advice and go to the public library anyways.
> I am a grade 10 student, and am taking shop class, so my skills are fine.
>
> Thanks for your (and everyone else's) responses,
> David Liles
>
Hi David
A mortice and tenon joint is one option as is dado's and biscuits, but,
depending on where in the construction you are going to use it and what
the unit is to be made out of, it may not be the best choice. Dado's or
biscuits would be my choice for mounting shelves and would probably be a
good way to go if all you want is a basic set of shelves. Then there is
the rabbet joint for the back of the unit.
Then there is the question of whether you are going to use a face frame
design or no. The best joints there and attaching it to the carcass.
Of course if you want drawers of doors there is a bunch of new concepts
to deal with.
There is also the issues of stock selection which includes such things
as wood moment (also important in selecting a joint) moisture content,
and acclimation.
Finally there are the correct tools required to do the job and we won't
even get into finishing right now.
All I can really tell you at the moment is that good old every day
yellow glue is probably your best bet for indoor construction.
I know that the woodworking shows make it look easy and turn out nice
looking pieces in a half hour but, unfortunately for novice woodworkers,
they pretty much ignore the underlying basic knowledge and skills base
that lets them take a few boards and turn them into a piece of
furniture.
I'm not trying to discourage you here. What I am trying is to help you
avoid a lot of frustration, disappointment, and needless expenditures.
There is a lot of unmentioned things that go on behind the scenes of
those woodworking shows but the knowledge isn't hard to get or the
skills beyond the scope of just about anyone if they are willing to
learn and practice rather then expecting a work of art without right out
of the box without doing so.
Best of luck
David -
Well, I think that more specific information from you would assist those who
would comment in providing you with responses that would better serve your
needs.
Typically entertainment centers are build out of MDF or hardwood plywood,
with solid wood edging, drawers and panels. Joinery is a combination of
biscuits or dowels, dadoes, dovetails, glue joints, rabbets, screws, etc,
depending on the subassembly.
This month's edition of Wood Magazine has plans for a "modular"
entertainment center that may be both adaptable to your needs and provide
more specific answers to your questions.
Hope this helps!
John Moorhead
"David Liles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
> entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available (in
> Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I am
> new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these
lines.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
David Liles wrote:
> I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
> entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available (in
> Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I am
> new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these
> lines.
This is kind of like asking "how high is up".
There is no "best product available for attaching two pieces of wood
together". What's best depends on the design of the joint, the type of
wood, the intended exposure, the loads to be applied, and numerous other
factors. For some applications nails work fine. For others wood or
drywall screws are more satisfactory. For others machine screws with nuts.
For others various varieties of "white" (aka PVA aka "aliphatic resin")
glue work well. For others other varieties of glue. For others shaping
the wood carefully and designing the joint carefully so that no fasteners
beyond possibly some wedges are needed is the right choice. And this
leaves aside the whole realm of special-purpose fasteners intended for one
specific type of application.
>
> Thank you,
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
David Liles wrote:
> I was thinking of using a mortise and tenon joint.
> I was just wondering what the best type of adhesive would be.
> I've seen people use different types of epoxy, and glues, as I watch many
> of the different shows on HGTV (ie: Jon Eakes, Home Again, and the New
> Yankee Workshop).
For ordinary indoor use the "white" glues (aka "PVA" or "aliphatic resin")
are quite satisfactory with mortise and tenon joints.
> I will take your advice and go to the public library anyways.
> I am a grade 10 student, and am taking shop class, so my skills are fine.
>
> Thanks for your (and everyone else's) responses,
> David Liles
>
> "MikeG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <DmTMc.1218449$Ar.170048
>> @twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, [email protected]
>> says...
>> > I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
>> > entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available
> (in
>> > Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I
> am
>> > new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these
> lines.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hello David
>>
>> Joining two piece of wood is called, well, It's called joining or
>> jointing. Other then milling the wood it is the most basic and important
>> thing you have to do in woodworking.
>>
>> As such the means and methods to join to pieces of wood together are
>> legion and extremely varied. I respectfully suggest, due to the nature
>> of the question, that you would be better served by a trip to the local
>> library or book store followed by some considerable bit of time studying
>> the information that one can find on woodworking in such places.
>>
>> Presumably, after that is accomplished, you will be able to come back
>> and not only ask intelligent questions but will also have some base of
>> knowledge that will allow you to understand the answers.
>>
>> It isn't rocket science but, then again, it isn't paint by numbers
>> either and will require you extend yourself a bit if you wish to
>> successfully take up the avocation. This is especially true if you wish
>> to become a woodworker that still has five whole fingers per hand.
>>
>>
>> --
>> MikeG
>> Heirloom Woods
>> www.heirloom-woods.net
>> [email protected]
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
George wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<%[email protected]>...
>> "David Liles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> > I just need a name of the best product available (in
>> > Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together).
>>
>> Some guys use fancy sissy looking joints and carefully fit parts
>> together
>> but that takes too much time. You'd never get it done in time for hockey
>> season. Best thing I've found it nails. A 16d nail with a big head holds
>> together anything I've build so far. Simple and cheap and only one tool
>> need, a 20 ounce hammer..
>
> I guess if you are framing a house, yes, but for an entertainement
> centre, one might want a nicer finish and something that will hold
> together at least until the next superbowl.
One would hope that the house framed in that manner would hold together
until the next Superbowl and that the entertainment center experiences less
severe loadings than the house in which it is located.
As for finish and the like, that's a matter of taste. Some people go for
the "rough" look, especially in a college dorm where it's all gonna get
busted anyway.
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
I find Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking books 1&2 bound together an
excellent reference tome.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:40:42 GMT, "David Liles"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I will take your advice and go to the public library anyways.
>I am a grade 10 student, and am taking shop class, so my skills are fine.
On 26 Jul 2004 06:19:28 -0700, [email protected] (George)
wrote:
>"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<%[email protected]>...
>> "David Liles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> > I just need a name of the best product available (in
>> > Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together).
>>
>> Some guys use fancy sissy looking joints and carefully fit parts together
>> but that takes too much time. You'd never get it done in time for hockey
>> season. Best thing I've found it nails. A 16d nail with a big head holds
>> together anything I've build so far. Simple and cheap and only one tool
>> need, a 20 ounce hammer..
>
>I guess if you are framing a house, yes, but for an entertainement
>centre, one might want a nicer finish and something that will hold
>together at least until the next superbowl.
nice cast, Ed. looks like you got one...
I was thinking of using a mortise and tenon joint.
I was just wondering what the best type of adhesive would be.
I've seen people use different types of epoxy, and glues, as I watch many of
the different shows on HGTV (ie: Jon Eakes, Home Again, and the New Yankee
Workshop).
I will take your advice and go to the public library anyways.
I am a grade 10 student, and am taking shop class, so my skills are fine.
Thanks for your (and everyone else's) responses,
David Liles
"MikeG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <DmTMc.1218449$Ar.170048
> @twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, [email protected]
> says...
> > I am not sure what the best thing to use is when it comes to making an
> > entertainment centre. I just need a name of the best product available
(in
> > Canada) to get the job done (attaching two pieces of wood together). I
am
> > new to this hobby, and am wanting to start with something along these
lines.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hello David
>
> Joining two piece of wood is called, well, It's called joining or
> jointing. Other then milling the wood it is the most basic and important
> thing you have to do in woodworking.
>
> As such the means and methods to join to pieces of wood together are
> legion and extremely varied. I respectfully suggest, due to the nature
> of the question, that you would be better served by a trip to the local
> library or book store followed by some considerable bit of time studying
> the information that one can find on woodworking in such places.
>
> Presumably, after that is accomplished, you will be able to come back
> and not only ask intelligent questions but will also have some base of
> knowledge that will allow you to understand the answers.
>
> It isn't rocket science but, then again, it isn't paint by numbers
> either and will require you extend yourself a bit if you wish to
> successfully take up the avocation. This is especially true if you wish
> to become a woodworker that still has five whole fingers per hand.
>
>
> --
> MikeG
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> [email protected]