Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
hassle!
Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Thank you!
II
Typically I have had this problem also, but I find the amount of
sanding minimal. You might find roundover bit that would reduce this
to almost a nonexistant problem, but with a good bit, I would think the
amount of effort to clean up this line not to be a concern. I would be
interested in other woodworker's reaction to this this perceived
problem.
Will a dish bit do the same thing as a roundover bit? Sorry John I am
a complete novice! I build fishing lures and wouldn't mind the sanding
but when you have literally hundreds to work with it becomes very
tiring.
I have tried adjusting the height dave but can't ever seem to get it to
go away "completely". I am using hard maple so the sanding part is
"hard"!
I have tried a flat file to sand them, sandpaper, a drum sander on my
drill press, a belt sander, they all work but the amount of time needed
to correct the problem is considerable and it really wears me down
after doing 30 of them.
II
[email protected] wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
>
> II
I agree with Dave. The bearing is slightly narrow or (I have had two
roundover bits like this) the cove of the bit is less then 90 degrees.
They both went in the garbage. I stick to higher-end router bits now.
Wayne
On 30 Dec 2005 18:31:12 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
>where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
>so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
>always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
>having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
>hassle!
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
1. Your bit might not be sharp ..you ARE routing hard maple! Also,
there are good bits and cheap bits.
2. Some might not agree, but I have occasionally [carefully!] started
from the end, routing in the backward direction for a VERY short
distance, then going to the beginning and routing upto that point.
In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
I get this all the time. You can't rely on eyeballing the bit height.
Simply retract the bit, bit by bit (!?) until the edge disappears.
Remember, if you're not practicing on scrap, you're practicing on your
project. :-)
--
Vince Heuring To email, remove the Vince.
[email protected] wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small
> edge where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router
> height so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close
> it's always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end
> up having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Is your roundover bit is actually that and not a bead bit? If so, your
bearing is too small. You can fix that by using a fence. If the "edge"
is on the side of the board rather than the edge your depth setting is
too deep.
The other possibility is that you are trying to round over *both* edges
to form a half round. If that is the case, you'll get a slightly
asymetrical shape with the "edge" you refer to. That is because when
you do the second edge the bearing is riding on an area that was cut
when you did the first edge - it is inset slightly. The easy cure is to
use a fence. A less easy one is to add a piece of fiberboard or such on
top and use a top bearing bit running on it.
--
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I had this problem also. I always got this router edge when I attempted
to round over a corner.
I went to rocklers or maybe it was woodcraft and told them the problem I
was having. It's been a while but what I had been sold before was a
beading bit not a round over bit. When I got a round over bit the edge
went away.
[email protected] wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
>
> II
>
After seeing others' responses I think perhaps I misunderstood your
original question. Sorry. The only other suggestion I might make then
would be that perhaps a slightly thinner workpiece might help. If you
can post a photo or drawing of the problem you'd likely get definitive
answers quickly.
J.
[email protected] wrote:
> Will a dish bit do the same thing as a roundover bit? Sorry John I am
> a complete novice! I build fishing lures and wouldn't mind the sanding
> but when you have literally hundreds to work with it becomes very
> tiring.
>
> I have tried adjusting the height dave but can't ever seem to get it to
> go away "completely". I am using hard maple so the sanding part is
> "hard"!
>
> I have tried a flat file to sand them, sandpaper, a drum sander on my
> drill press, a belt sander, they all work but the amount of time needed
> to correct the problem is considerable and it really wears me down
> after doing 30 of them.
>
> II
>
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:32:23 -0800, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>
>> I have tried adjusting the height dave but can't ever seem to get it to
>> go away "completely". I am using hard maple so the sanding part is
>> "hard"!
>>
>>
>that's why I think your bearing MIGHT be undersize. see my earlier post
>for determining that.
I think he was referrring to a "foldover" where the routing ends, not
a lip along the length of the rout? It would deserve some further
explanation of the problem.
[email protected] wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
>
> II
>
Is the bearing just ever so slightly undersized? To find out set the
fence proud of the bearing in a router table and see if the problem goes
away with careful set up of the height.
Dave
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
.3
IF you are talking about the top of the bit at the widest part of the cut,
you need to raise the bit so that it does not cut as deep. Yes the round
over will not be complete but minor sanding corrects that. That sanding is
much easier than having to take out a ridge caused by cutting too deep.
If you are talking about the round over near the bottom at the bearing, get
a new and or better bit.
[email protected] wrote:
>
> I agree with Dave. The bearing is slightly narrow or (I have had two
> roundover bits like this) the cove of the bit is less then 90 degrees.
> They both went in the garbage. I stick to higher-end router bits now.
>
> Wayne
>
what brand was it, Wayne?
dave
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Yes. Sounds to me that the bearing has worn and is no longer terminating
at the same edge as the cutter. IOW.. the bearing isn't keeping the
cutting radius away from your work-piece adequately.
Put a little filament tape over the bearing (increasing its diameter)
and test at slow speed if you can. The worse thing that will happen that
the piece of tape will fly off, but by that time, you'll have confirmed
my suspicions.
Sometimes there is a little flange washer between the bearing and the
cutter creating a line.
The other possibility, already mentioned by other crew members, is that
you're riding the bearing on a surface which has already been rounded
over, allowing the cutter to go too deep.
BTW.. does that line show up when rounding over a large piece of wood?
Like a piece of 2 x 2?
Perhaps your workpiece is not as flat as you might think it is. IOW both
opposite faces must be in the same plane.
If sanding and scraping ain't your game then try a dish bit, basically a
wide, planing router bit.
J.
[email protected] wrote:
> Whenever I use a round-over bit on my router I end up with a small edge
> where the roundover bit ends. I have tried to adjust the router height
> so that you can't see this and even though I can get it close it's
> always there. I am cutting dozens and dozens of pieces and end up
> having to sand each of them after using the router.........a major
> hassle!
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Thank you!
>
> II
>
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:27:29 GMT, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Is your roundover bit is actually that and not a bead bit? If so, your
>bearing is too small. You can fix that by using a fence. If the "edge"
>is on the side of the board rather than the edge your depth setting is
>too deep.
>
>The other possibility is that you are trying to round over *both* edges
>to form a half round. If that is the case, you'll get a slightly
>asymetrical shape with the "edge" you refer to. That is because when
>you do the second edge the bearing is riding on an area that was cut
>when you did the first edge - it is inset slightly. The easy cure is to
>use a fence. A less easy one is to add a piece of fiberboard or such on
>top and use a top bearing bit running on it.
If the problem is along the length of the route, and not the end, as I
had assumed, then this is the best explanation, I think.
A great many of the responders didn't seem to not have read the orriginal
post. He said that he had reduced the problem by adjusting the HEIGHT of the
bit. It would appear that the problem is not on the side. The bearing would
not have anything to do with it. The solution is simple. If it is cutting to
deep, back it off.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
> Yes. Sounds to me that the bearing has worn and is no longer terminating
> at the same edge as the cutter. IOW.. the bearing isn't keeping the
> cutting radius away from your work-piece adequately.
> Put a little filament tape over the bearing (increasing its diameter)
> and test at slow speed if you can. The worse thing that will happen that
> the piece of tape will fly off, but by that time, you'll have confirmed
> my suspicions.
>
> Sometimes there is a little flange washer between the bearing and the
> cutter creating a line.
>
> The other possibility, already mentioned by other crew members, is that
> you're riding the bearing on a surface which has already been rounded
> over, allowing the cutter to go too deep.
>
> BTW.. does that line show up when rounding over a large piece of wood?
> Like a piece of 2 x 2?
[email protected] wrote:
> I have tried adjusting the height dave but can't ever seem to get it to
> go away "completely". I am using hard maple so the sanding part is
> "hard"!
>
>
that's why I think your bearing MIGHT be undersize. see my earlier post
for determining that.
dave