On 8/3/2012 11:39 AM, Jack wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 1:46 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 12:02 PM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>>>>
>>>> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
>>>
>>> What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
>>> close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
>>> tried a spray on wax though.
>>>
>>
>> Boeshield is a spray on wax.
>
> I never used Boeshield. Is that what he went back to after using TopCote?
I have not heard of any other spray on wax unless he is talking about a
furniture polish. Through the years I have tried numerous products, I
always go back to TopCote or Empire, Empire was the original maker of
TopCote.
>
> From reading a ton of posts here from Boeshield users, including you,
> It became clear Topcote is better in all counts to Boeshield. I know you
> used both and went with TopCote and a lot of others comments on
> Boeshield convinced me. So, if he is using Boeshield I'm not
> interested, if he found something else that is better than TopCote, I'm
> slightly interested, slightly because TopCote has met all my
> needs/expectations, although in my current shop I don't have a rust
> problem with or without TopCote. It's slippery as all get out and there
> is no need to wax any jigs used on TopCote'd tops.
>
When I originally used Boeshield 13 years ago I had to lay it on so
thick to protect that I had to spend too much time every time I used the
saw, daily, to get the excess gunk off. If it did not have excess gunk
it simply did not protect overnight.
On another note, I am going to one day reclean the surface of my saw,
clean off the patina again. ;~) I am seriously considering putting a
light film of TiteBondII on the surface, let dry a few minutes and then
remove it. Every time I leave a drop of glue on the surface of my saw
and pop the glue spot loose it reveals a clean silvery surface.
On 8/2/2012 2:14 PM, Steve wrote:
> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in news:Tf-dnRm_
> [email protected]:
>
>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>> incra unit.
>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>
>
> The answer to your question is ShopNotes Issue #8.
>
Thanks, that's a very old issue.
I have the plans and parts on the way from G. Ross. thanks.
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:46:04 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>Boeshield is a spray on wax.
"Boeshield T-9® is a solvent and paraffin wax based formula with over
a dozen components including corrosion inhibitors. "
The Boeshield web page displays the line above and apparently it does
say it's a wax, but I have to wonder what other components it
contains?
On 8/1/2012 6:51 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> tiredofspam wrote:
>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>> incra unit.
>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>
> I got my kit in June, built it and eventually ordered their aluminum jig.
> Can send you the kit if I can find the plans lying around.
>
Why did you go with their alum jig.
I thought the wood jig receieved good reviews..
Are the alum and wood jig the same?
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:17:40 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/2/2012 8:47 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 9:43 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2012 7:41 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell
>>>>>>> plans
>>>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in
>>>>> aluminum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that is why I ask.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeez!
>>>>
>>>> http://index.woodsmith.com/?acct
>>> You must have an account.
>>>
>>> When I go to the customer service and click on search index
>>> it asks for account info..
>>>
>>> Somehow they really didn't secure it... so your link goes around the
>>> account security..
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ahhhhh, went to use it, and it won't work without a subscriber account.
>> So it does realize that I haven't logged in.
>>
>> Kind of dumb to not allow searching. How would I order a back issue if I
>> were looking for something. Very short sighted. But typical of managers
>> sitting in their corporate rooms.
>
>
>Click the ,print the index, you will get a pdf of the entire index.
I did a search from the home page for box joint jig and that brought
up the information from the online store.
Mike M
On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> incra unit.
> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>
If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>> incra unit.
>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>
>
>
> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
So that is why I ask.
On 8/1/2012 5:59 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>> incra unit.
>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>
>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>
>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>
>> So that is why I ask.
>
> http://index.woodsmith.com/files/ws-index-2010.pdf
>
How did you get to that file?
A google search of woodsmith and the filename doesn't even come up with
that.
Also apparently although on the woodsmith store turns out it's a shop
notes issue, which I can't get to an index either.
Not from woodsmith/shop notes.
Only from other sites that aren't exactly in my trust ...
On 8/2/2012 8:47 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 9:43 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 7:41 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 4:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell
>>>>>> plans
>>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in
>>>> aluminum.
>>>>
>>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>>
>>>> So that is why I ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeez!
>>>
>>> http://index.woodsmith.com/?acct
>> You must have an account.
>>
>> When I go to the customer service and click on search index
>> it asks for account info..
>>
>> Somehow they really didn't secure it... so your link goes around the
>> account security..
>> Thanks.
>
> Ahhhhh, went to use it, and it won't work without a subscriber account.
> So it does realize that I haven't logged in.
>
> Kind of dumb to not allow searching. How would I order a back issue if I
> were looking for something. Very short sighted. But typical of managers
> sitting in their corporate rooms.
Click the ,print the index, you will get a pdf of the entire index.
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>> incra unit.
>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>
>I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>
>Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>
>So that is why I ask.
http://index.woodsmith.com/files/ws-index-2010.pdf
On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
> says...
>>
>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>> incra unit.
>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>
> The plan is available for download, no need to get them to send you a
> paper plan.
>
> Note that the principle of operation is very different from anything
> Incra makes.
>
>
I was under the impression that this was the same principle of the new
incra box jig. Just home made.
Ok, no big deal... still can use it.
In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
says...
>
> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> incra unit.
> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
The plan is available for download, no need to get them to send you a
paper plan.
Note that the principle of operation is very different from anything
Incra makes.
In article <[email protected]>, tiredofspam
says...
>
> On 8/2/2012 2:37 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> > On 8/1/2012 2:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> >> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> >> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> >> incra unit.
> >> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> >> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
> >
> >
> > They appear to be "in stock":
> >
> > http://www.woodsmithstore.com/wsboxjointjig.html
> > http://www.woodsmithstore.com/boxjoint.html
> >
> Not the second item.
> it says tempoararily out of stock.
That's the plans with the hardware kit. The plans alone download from
<http://plansnow.com/boxjoint.html>.
> I thought it was very much like the incra. When the ibox joint jig came
> out I thought someone said it was very like the woodsmith one.
> I guess I mis understood ..
I hadn't seen the Incra box joint jig. I've been using an Incra jig for
probably 20 years now. Incra generally works on a principle of
repeatable movement in controlled steps. I can't tell from what's on
the Incra site if their box joint jig is based on different principles
or not.
> I have a box joint jig that I made from plans years ago...
> I can't remember I think it was Liz's box joint jig...
> I didn't keep the plan. I got it online a long while back.
>
> Works ok, but has some issues... pain to get it right.
> So I was looking to upgrade.
On 8/2/2012 12:02 PM, Jack wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Jack wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>>
>>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>>
>> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
>
> What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
> close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
> tried a spray on wax though.
>
Boeshield is a spray on wax.
tiredofspam wrote:
> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> incra unit.
> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>
I got my kit in June, built it and eventually ordered their aluminum jig.
Can send you the kit if I can find the plans lying around.
--
G.W. Ross
Closed Hearing for the Caption Impaired...
On 8/1/2012 5:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>> incra unit.
>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>
> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>
> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>
> So that is why I ask.
This might have something to do with it. Or maybe not.
"Q. How do I access the online index?
A. The online index is currently only available to subscribers, so you
will need to log into your account to access this. Just click on Online
Index under the "Other" tab above. Then complete the Subscriber Login
information. Once you are logged into your account the link for the index
can be found on the right under the photo of the current issue."
On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> tiredofspam wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 6:51 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>> tiredofspam wrote:
>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>> incra unit.
>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>
>>> I got my kit in June, built it and eventually ordered their aluminum
>>> jig.
>>> Can send you the kit if I can find the plans lying around.
>>>
>> Why did you go with their alum jig.
>> I thought the wood jig receieved good reviews..
>> Are the alum and wood jig the same?
>>
> I am using the aluminum jig and love it.
>
> The kit had no wood in it, just the instructions & hardware. My problem
> was that my wood was a little under 3/4" and the instructions are for
> 3/4" lumber, so things did not work out just right. two of the holes
> would have been accurate for 3/4" but caused a bit of binding on my
> build. So, instead of buying more hardwood and starting over I ordered
> the pre-built aluminum jig.
>
> There is no real difference in the way they work, and if you are careful
> with the measurements one should be as good as the other. One difference
> is the backer plate to prevent tearout--in the kit you make it out of a
> scrap of masonite and the aluminum one uses a custom plastic strip which
> you have to buy from them if you change your cuts a lot.
>
> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>
> I dismantled my kit jig and have all the parts and instructions for
> making the jig. It goes for $10 plus shipping. I paid 15.95 for it.
> G.W. Ross
>
> If I had only known, I should have
> become a watchmaker. -- Einstein
>
>
>
>
>
>
Ok, I would like it. If this is your email address I will send you an
email offline in the morn to arrange payment and shipping.
Thank you.
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>On 8/2/2012 10:05 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>>> On 8/1/2012 5:59 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>>>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that is why I ask.
>>>>
>>>> http://index.woodsmith.com/files/ws-index-2010.pdf
>>>>
>>> How did you get to that file?
>>
>> Googled "woodsmith online index". I believe it was the second link.
>>
>
>Like I said I don't get that at all. I guess google figures that here
>on the east coast we really don't want what you west coast guys get.
It was the third link, http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f2/looking-woodsmith-magazine-index-14442/
scroll down a bit for a link to the index.
scott
tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>> tiredofspam wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 6:51 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>> tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>
>>>> I got my kit in June, built it and eventually ordered their aluminum
>>>> jig.
>>>> Can send you the kit if I can find the plans lying around.
>>>>
>>> Why did you go with their alum jig.
>>> I thought the wood jig receieved good reviews..
>>> Are the alum and wood jig the same?
>>>
>> I am using the aluminum jig and love it.
>>
>> The kit had no wood in it, just the instructions & hardware. My problem
>> was that my wood was a little under 3/4" and the instructions are for
>> 3/4" lumber, so things did not work out just right. two of the holes
>> would have been accurate for 3/4" but caused a bit of binding on my
>> build. So, instead of buying more hardwood and starting over I ordered
>> the pre-built aluminum jig.
>>
>> There is no real difference in the way they work, and if you are careful
>> with the measurements one should be as good as the other. One difference
>> is the backer plate to prevent tearout--in the kit you make it out of a
>> scrap of masonite and the aluminum one uses a custom plastic strip which
>> you have to buy from them if you change your cuts a lot.
>>
>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>
>> I dismantled my kit jig and have all the parts and instructions for
>> making the jig. It goes for $10 plus shipping. I paid 15.95 for it.
>> G.W. Ross
>>
>> If I had only known, I should have
>> become a watchmaker. -- Einstein
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Ok, I would like it. If this is your email address I will send you an
> email offline in the morn to arrange payment and shipping.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
Nope. It is gwr36 at bellsouth dot net.
--
G.W. Ross
If I had only known, I should have
become a watchmaker. -- Einstein
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in news:Tf-dnRm_
[email protected]:
> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> incra unit.
> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>
The answer to your question is ShopNotes Issue #8.
On 8/2/2012 9:43 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 7:41 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 4:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>
>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>>
>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>
>>> So that is why I ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeez!
>>
>> http://index.woodsmith.com/?acct
> You must have an account.
>
> When I go to the customer service and click on search index
> it asks for account info..
>
> Somehow they really didn't secure it... so your link goes around the
> account security..
> Thanks.
Ahhhhh, went to use it, and it won't work without a subscriber account.
So it does realize that I haven't logged in.
Kind of dumb to not allow searching. How would I order a back issue if I
were looking for something. Very short sighted. But typical of managers
sitting in their corporate rooms.
On 8/2/2012 7:41 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 4:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>> incra unit.
>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>
>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>
>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>
>> So that is why I ask.
>
>
>
> Jeez!
>
> http://index.woodsmith.com/?acct
You must have an account.
When I go to the customer service and click on search index
it asks for account info..
Somehow they really didn't secure it... so your link goes around the
account security..
Thanks.
Jack wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>> Jack wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>>
>>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>>
>> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
>
> What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
> close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
> tried a spray on wax though.
>
Take a pint of mineral spirits, add shavings of paraffin wax. Shake
every day until no more wax dissolves. Put in a spray bottle (I use an
aluminum spray can that is pressurized with compressed air).
Spritz on saw table, lathe ways, vise screw etc. If stained or
surface rust I use a green abrasive pad, wipe off with paper towels
and reapply. Wipe off with paper towel. It is best to apply in the
afternoon so it will dry and harden overnight.
I have been using this for 10 years with good results and have enough
to last me another decade. I'm not stingy, just frugal. It's in the
blood--half scotch and half water.
--
G.W. Ross
If I had only known, I should have
become a watchmaker. -- Einstein
On 8/2/2012 10:05 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>> On 8/1/2012 5:59 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>>>
>>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>>
>>>> So that is why I ask.
>>>
>>> http://index.woodsmith.com/files/ws-index-2010.pdf
>>>
>> How did you get to that file?
>
> Googled "woodsmith online index". I believe it was the second link.
>
Like I said I don't get that at all. I guess google figures that here
on the east coast we really don't want what you west coast guys get.
Just bizarre. For me google is starting to be less informative as a
search engine ... They are so much more interested in commercial
offerings that they are forgetting about just being a good search engine.
tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 6:51 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>> tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>> incra unit.
>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>
>> I got my kit in June, built it and eventually ordered their aluminum jig.
>> Can send you the kit if I can find the plans lying around.
>>
> Why did you go with their alum jig.
> I thought the wood jig receieved good reviews..
> Are the alum and wood jig the same?
>
I am using the aluminum jig and love it.
The kit had no wood in it, just the instructions & hardware. My
problem was that my wood was a little under 3/4" and the instructions
are for 3/4" lumber, so things did not work out just right. two of
the holes would have been accurate for 3/4" but caused a bit of
binding on my build. So, instead of buying more hardwood and starting
over I ordered the pre-built aluminum jig.
There is no real difference in the way they work, and if you are
careful with the measurements one should be as good as the other. One
difference is the backer plate to prevent tearout--in the kit you make
it out of a scrap of masonite and the aluminum one uses a custom
plastic strip which you have to buy from them if you change your cuts
a lot.
Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
I dismantled my kit jig and have all the parts and instructions for
making the jig. It goes for $10 plus shipping. I paid 15.95 for it.
G.W. Ross
If I had only known, I should have
become a watchmaker. -- Einstein
On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>
>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>
> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
tried a spray on wax though.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 8/1/2012 2:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
> incra unit.
> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
They appear to be "in stock":
http://www.woodsmithstore.com/wsboxjointjig.html
http://www.woodsmithstore.com/boxjoint.html
On 8/2/2012 1:46 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/2/2012 12:02 PM, Jack wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>>> Jack wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>>>
>>>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>>>
>>> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
>>
>> What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
>> close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
>> tried a spray on wax though.
>>
>
> Boeshield is a spray on wax.
I never used Boeshield. Is that what he went back to after using TopCote?
From reading a ton of posts here from Boeshield users, including you,
It became clear Topcote is better in all counts to Boeshield. I know you
used both and went with TopCote and a lot of others comments on
Boeshield convinced me. So, if he is using Boeshield I'm not
interested, if he found something else that is better than TopCote, I'm
slightly interested, slightly because TopCote has met all my
needs/expectations, although in my current shop I don't have a rust
problem with or without TopCote. It's slippery as all get out and there
is no need to wax any jigs used on TopCote'd tops.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 8/2/2012 2:20 PM, G. Ross wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>> On 8/2/2012 9:31 AM, G. Ross wrote:
>>> Jack wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 8:34 PM, G. Ross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Both slide on the saw table and work smoother if you wax it.
>>>>
>>>> Try Bostik TopCote. No waxing needed.
>>>>
>>> Tried it. Went back to my spray-on wax.
>>
>> What spray on wax is that? I've tried lots of rub on waxes, none came
>> close to TopCotes slipperiness, durability or rust resistance. Never
>> tried a spray on wax though.
>>
> Take a pint of mineral spirits, add shavings of paraffin wax. Shake
> every day until no more wax dissolves. Put in a spray bottle (I use an
> aluminum spray can that is pressurized with compressed air).
> Spritz on saw table, lathe ways, vise screw etc. If stained or surface
> rust I use a green abrasive pad, wipe off with paper towels and
> reapply. Wipe off with paper towel. It is best to apply in the
> afternoon so it will dry and harden overnight.
Been there, done that, except used lacquer thinner as the solvent. I
did this because at that time, my basement shop would get an inch of
water every time it rained hard. Fighting rust was a war. I replaced
this practice with a 3M product called 3M dry lube. This stuff was
awesome, but I could only get it through a friend that worked for 3M and
got it at the 3M store in Minnesota. This stuff stopped all rust for 6
months at least and slick as wet ice. When I tried to replace my
supply, couldn't find it, and even emailed 3M with the product number,
photo of the can, and he said he never heard of it, couldn't find it.
Later when I looked at TopCote, I noticed the can was VERY similar to
the 3M product:
http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube1.jpg
http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube2.jpg
so I went with it, and it seems about exactly the same. Way slipperier
than the wax treatment, and far more durable. Can't say about the rust
prevention as my shop is dry now, but I suspect it is the exact same 3M
product I used years ago.
> I have been using this for 10 years with good results and have enough to
> last me another decade. I'm not stingy, just frugal. It's in the
> blood--half scotch and half water.
Same here, however Whenever someone asks me if I want water with my
Scotch, I say, in the words of Joe E. Lewis, "I'm thirsty, not dirty.:-)
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
On 8/3/12 12:17 PM, Jack wrote:
> Been there, done that, except used lacquer thinner as the solvent. I
> did this because at that time, my basement shop would get an inch of
> water every time it rained hard. Fighting rust was a war. I replaced
> this practice with a 3M product called 3M dry lube. This stuff was
> awesome, but I could only get it through a friend that worked for 3M and
> got it at the 3M store in Minnesota. This stuff stopped all rust for 6
> months at least and slick as wet ice. When I tried to replace my
> supply, couldn't find it, and even emailed 3M with the product number,
> photo of the can, and he said he never heard of it, couldn't find it.
> Later when I looked at TopCote, I noticed the can was VERY similar to
> the 3M product:
>
> http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube1.jpg
> http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube2.jpg
>
> so I went with it, and it seems about exactly the same. Way slipperier
> than the wax treatment, and far more durable. Can't say about the rust
> prevention as my shop is dry now, but I suspect it is the exact same 3M
> product I used years ago.
>
That's good to hear, as I've seen that product in hardware store. I'll
keep that in mind.
I picked up a can of Superlube Dri-film, which seems to be the same as
Top-Cote, as well. Very slick, zero residue.
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On 8/1/2012 4:40 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>> incra unit.
>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>
> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>
> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>
> So that is why I ask.
Jeez!
http://index.woodsmith.com/?acct
tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>On 8/1/2012 5:59 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> writes:
>>> On 8/1/2012 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 8/1/2012 4:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>>>>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>>>>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>>>>> incra unit.
>>>>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>>>>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you go to their web site and do a search it will tell you.
>>>
>>> I have tried with Google but only find their commercial jig in aluminum.
>>>
>>> Woodsmith does not have a search engine for their mags that I can find.
>>>
>>> So that is why I ask.
>>
>> http://index.woodsmith.com/files/ws-index-2010.pdf
>>
>How did you get to that file?
Googled "woodsmith online index". I believe it was the second link.
On 8/2/2012 2:37 PM, Pat Barber wrote:
> On 8/1/2012 2:14 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
>> Now does anyone know what issue the box joint jig that they sell plans
>> to on the woodsmith site came from? The one that is familiar to the
>> incra unit.
>> The jig plans/parts have been out of stock for a long time, maybe time
>> to see if I can get a back issue to get the plan.
>
>
> They appear to be "in stock":
>
> http://www.woodsmithstore.com/wsboxjointjig.html
> http://www.woodsmithstore.com/boxjoint.html
>
Not the second item.
it says tempoararily out of stock.
I thought it was very much like the incra. When the ibox joint jig came
out I thought someone said it was very like the woodsmith one.
I guess I mis understood ..
I have a box joint jig that I made from plans years ago...
I can't remember I think it was Liz's box joint jig...
I didn't keep the plan. I got it online a long while back.
Works ok, but has some issues... pain to get it right.
So I was looking to upgrade.
On 8/3/2012 4:36 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> On 8/3/2012 4:23 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On another note, I am going to one day reclean the surface of my saw,
>> clean off the patina again. ;~) I am seriously considering putting a
>> light film of TiteBondII on the surface, let dry a few minutes and then
>> remove it. Every time I leave a drop of glue on the surface of my saw
>> and pop the glue spot loose it reveals a clean silvery surface.
>
> Who knew you were such a fashion queen. What's wrong with the patina?
> I take my ROS and usually a green pad to clean the table if I want it
> that clean.
Yeah, I set my old PC ROS on to pf a Scotch Brite and work in the Top Saver.
The glue works like magic though, put it on, take it off.
On 8/3/2012 4:23 PM, Leon wrote:
> On another note, I am going to one day reclean the surface of my saw,
> clean off the patina again. ;~) I am seriously considering putting a
> light film of TiteBondII on the surface, let dry a few minutes and then
> remove it. Every time I leave a drop of glue on the surface of my saw
> and pop the glue spot loose it reveals a clean silvery surface.
Who knew you were such a fashion queen. What's wrong with the patina?
I take my ROS and usually a green pad to clean the table if I want it
that clean.
I don't use my ROS much anymore so it's a perfect use for it. Just cut
up your rectangular green pad to a round pad... helps make the scissors
sharp too.