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Bay Area Dave

18/11/2003 10:21 PM

Curious about bubbles from stain

This is NOT, I repeat NOT a problem for me; just curiosity: I brushed on
some oil modified Bonakemi DriFast stain onto filled-pore red oak. I
wiped it off after a couple of minutes and proceeded to the next piece.
I glanced back at the first item I wiped off and there were a few tiny
bubbles of stain showing. I wiped them off and then a minute or so
later, a few more bubbles appeared. This isn't a big deal, doesn't
cause any problems, but I don't understand why the stain bubbles up out
of the wood after a few minutes. After the 3rd wiping it remained clear
of bubbles.

Just wondering what is the process by which wiped-off stain re-appears?
Capillary action? bad karma? :)

Seriously, though, can anyone 'splain this?

dave


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"Rumpty"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

19/11/2003 10:57 PM

Dave,

You are using a fast dry stain and finish, why?

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Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

20/11/2003 9:19 AM

>I've seen Minwhacks stain come back up from the pores of oak
after a little while also.

Ya that's common with Minwax and other oil products such as Watco in red
oak. BTW I spray hydrocote resistane over Minwax 2 hours after staining,
it works well.

>Just curious; not concerned.

OK.


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Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

20/11/2003 4:05 AM

temp was between 60 and 65. again, Rumpty, this caused no problems. I
just rewiped the surface twice and all the oozing cleaned up. I'm just
curious what makes the material come up out of the pores in a few places.

dave

Rumpty wrote:

> It's the stain oozing back out of the pores of the oak. Don't flood the
> stain on and wipe down faster, i.e. less soak time. Also constant or
> dropping temperature and working out of sunlight is recommended. You should
> also consider spraying on the stain.
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>>This is NOT, I repeat NOT a problem for me; just curiosity: I brushed on
>>some oil modified Bonakemi DriFast stain onto filled-pore red oak. I
>>wiped it off after a couple of minutes and proceeded to the next piece.
>> I glanced back at the first item I wiped off and there were a few tiny
>>bubbles of stain showing. I wiped them off and then a minute or so
>>later, a few more bubbles appeared. This isn't a big deal, doesn't
>>cause any problems, but I don't understand why the stain bubbles up out
>>of the wood after a few minutes. After the 3rd wiping it remained clear
>>of bubbles.
>>
>>Just wondering what is the process by which wiped-off stain re-appears?
>> Capillary action? bad karma? :)
>>
>>Seriously, though, can anyone 'splain this?
>>
>>dave
>>
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Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

19/11/2003 7:21 AM

It's the stain oozing back out of the pores of the oak. Don't flood the
stain on and wipe down faster, i.e. less soak time. Also constant or
dropping temperature and working out of sunlight is recommended. You should
also consider spraying on the stain.

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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This is NOT, I repeat NOT a problem for me; just curiosity: I brushed on
> some oil modified Bonakemi DriFast stain onto filled-pore red oak. I
> wiped it off after a couple of minutes and proceeded to the next piece.
> I glanced back at the first item I wiped off and there were a few tiny
> bubbles of stain showing. I wiped them off and then a minute or so
> later, a few more bubbles appeared. This isn't a big deal, doesn't
> cause any problems, but I don't understand why the stain bubbles up out
> of the wood after a few minutes. After the 3rd wiping it remained clear
> of bubbles.
>
> Just wondering what is the process by which wiped-off stain re-appears?
> Capillary action? bad karma? :)
>
> Seriously, though, can anyone 'splain this?
>
> dave
>

Rs

"Rumpty"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

19/11/2003 7:39 AM

Also, ideally the stain and the wood should be the same temperature.

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"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It's the stain oozing back out of the pores of the oak. Don't flood the
> stain on and wipe down faster, i.e. less soak time. Also constant or
> dropping temperature and working out of sunlight is recommended. You
should
> also consider spraying on the stain.
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
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> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > This is NOT, I repeat NOT a problem for me; just curiosity: I brushed on
> > some oil modified Bonakemi DriFast stain onto filled-pore red oak. I
> > wiped it off after a couple of minutes and proceeded to the next piece.
> > I glanced back at the first item I wiped off and there were a few tiny
> > bubbles of stain showing. I wiped them off and then a minute or so
> > later, a few more bubbles appeared. This isn't a big deal, doesn't
> > cause any problems, but I don't understand why the stain bubbles up out
> > of the wood after a few minutes. After the 3rd wiping it remained clear
> > of bubbles.
> >
> > Just wondering what is the process by which wiped-off stain re-appears?
> > Capillary action? bad karma? :)
> >
> > Seriously, though, can anyone 'splain this?
> >
> > dave
> >
>
>

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Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

20/11/2003 4:05 AM

they were.

Rumpty wrote:

> Also, ideally the stain and the wood should be the same temperature.
>
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> Rumpty
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>>It's the stain oozing back out of the pores of the oak. Don't flood the
>>stain on and wipe down faster, i.e. less soak time. Also constant or
>>dropping temperature and working out of sunlight is recommended. You
>
> should
>
>>also consider spraying on the stain.
>>
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>>"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>This is NOT, I repeat NOT a problem for me; just curiosity: I brushed on
>>>some oil modified Bonakemi DriFast stain onto filled-pore red oak. I
>>>wiped it off after a couple of minutes and proceeded to the next piece.
>>> I glanced back at the first item I wiped off and there were a few tiny
>>>bubbles of stain showing. I wiped them off and then a minute or so
>>>later, a few more bubbles appeared. This isn't a big deal, doesn't
>>>cause any problems, but I don't understand why the stain bubbles up out
>>>of the wood after a few minutes. After the 3rd wiping it remained clear
>>>of bubbles.
>>>
>>>Just wondering what is the process by which wiped-off stain re-appears?
>>> Capillary action? bad karma? :)
>>>
>>>Seriously, though, can anyone 'splain this?
>>>
>>>dave
>>>
>>
>>
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Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 18/11/2003 10:21 PM

20/11/2003 4:09 AM

the name of the product is Bonakemi DriFast stain (it's oil modified).
It doesn't REALLY dry too fast. It does allow for top coating a lot
quicker than Minwhacks, and it is compatible with water borne floor
finishes as well as poly and all the other finishes. It's a great
product. I've seen Minwhacks stain come back up from the pores of oak
after a little while also. Just curious; not concerned.

dave

Rumpty wrote:

> Dave,
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> You are using a fast dry stain and finish, why?
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