"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:280320101525271922%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Swing, it was posted through googlegroups
>
> Yowza! When did my GG filter get disabled? I shouldn't have even see
> his post!
Nothing in my kill file has worked in days. Have no idea why.
> > I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user rules.
Hey, no need to apologize, it's not a particularly poor design and the
thing looks just grand.
Years ago, in Sarasota, there was a fellow with a definite Mechanical
Engineering talent who also partook of a bit of wood working to sooth
his troubled soul and please wife and children (I suspect).
For the area, he had quite a spread - probably an acre, maybe more.
The first thing I noticed when I arrived (actually looking to purchase
something he advertised that - once I saw it - I realized I didn't
need) was his mail box out at teh edge of the road.
It was a real contraption and it brought the mail to him! It "knew"
when the mailman had deposited the goods and ran on some sort of track
back to a covered portion of his home where he might retrieve it
without being rained upon should it be raining, of course.
He had a piss pipe installed in his shop - much neater than the quart
jar I keep handy now that I know so much more than I ever wanted to
about prosrtate problems.
But the thing that brings him to mind as his adjustable bench - how do
you spell pneumatic? That's how he had it rigged to go up and down.
And, because the bottom/underneath was clear of any obstructions. it
really could serve a wheelchair bound craftsman (hey aren't we all
wheelchair bound?).
Now, it wasn't a wood worker's bench. It did have a vise - also
pneumatically operated! - and a shelf with a light underneath which
traveled in concert with the bench.
Now, for those plans, I'd pay you $29.99
He had pother interesting things he'd done with his table saw
(adjustable some how) and his drill press (an ossilating feature as I
recall) and the wiring in his retreat and home. I went to visit an
acquaintance about a year later and found him living in that fellow's
home and all the fancy stuff was gone.
I have to confess that I was hoping to find a bench like his when I
responded to these posts.
But, again, no need to apologize.
In article
<bcd3a18e-4ce8-4b3e-812b-c2dfee9265e8@g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
jack-bench.com <[email protected]> wrote:
> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> rules. I will remove my original posting.
>
> Charlie
Charlie, this is usenet. You will never be able to remove the original
post.
You haven't offended anyone, you've just been hit with the wreck
clue-bat!
Stick around... It's a good place, with lots of interesting people and
opinions!
In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Swing, it was posted through googlegroups
Yowza! When did my GG filter get disabled? I shouldn't have even see
his post!
On Mar 28, 5:18=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
> jack-bench.com wrote:
> > I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> > rules. =A0I will remove my original posting.
>
> > Charlie
>
> No need to apoligize, it's good to see a woodworking related post in
> this woodworking news group for a change. =A0I ask that you stick
> around... I'd says you'd be a welcomed addition to the group.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> [email protected]
Thanks for cutting me some slack. I appreciate that!!
Charlie
On Mar 28, 7:10=A0pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 5:18=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > jack-bench.com wrote:
> > > I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> > > rules. =A0I will remove my original posting.
>
> > > Charlie
>
> > No need to apoligize, it's good to see a woodworking related post in
> > this woodworking news group for a change. =A0I ask that you stick
> > around... I'd says you'd be a welcomed addition to the group.
>
> > --
> > Jack Novak
> > Buffalo, NY - USA
> > [email protected]
>
> Thanks for cutting me some slack. =A0I appreciate that!!
>
> Charlie
Looks like a great workbench! It should be included in Scott Landis'
book on workbenches if Taunton Press ever reissues it.
jack-bench.com wrote:
> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> rules. I will remove my original posting.
>
> Charlie
No need to apoligize, it's good to see a woodworking related post in
this woodworking news group for a change. I ask that you stick
around... I'd says you'd be a welcomed addition to the group.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:10:12 -0700 (PDT), "jack-bench.com"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Thanks for cutting me some slack. I appreciate that!!
> >
> >Charlie
> As you probably noticed, most responses to your original post were
> favorable to your bench and plans, just not the "web etiquette"
> involved, which you can't be blamed for not knowing.. Hang out with us
> and make saw dust..
I'll re-post something I recieved "way back":
* Welcome to rec.woodworking, known locally as the wreck *
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who have yet to pick up a tool, professional woodworkers, authors of books
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This group is a collection of people with a common interest in woodworking
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wander away. Think of this NG as if having a number of friends over to the
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woodworking, but may also hit on other things going on, like the shop dog
dying, gloating about the vintage minty fresh Unisaur found at $100, a new
job, etc. That is what happens in this NG.
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However, it had not been updated for years and has
now been taken off-line (sometime in the first half of 2008?) ]
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first
posting. This will allow gradual familiarization with how things are done
in
this neck of the woods, become familiar with the locals, etc.
Sometimes some members of this NG can be a little harsh, but this is to be
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Some people say that if everyone were to use Google before they posted a
question, this NG would be dead, but this is a pessimistic point of view.
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People, *PLEASE* do not reply to the trolls, leave them under their pitiful
bridge to starve. And they will starve, and go away if people stop feeding
them with replies.
LINKS TO GREAT WOODWORKING SITES
# Dust Collection FAQ, everything you wanted to know about dust
collection, http://mypeoplepc.com/members/dstig/dustfaq_1.html
# Steambending FAQ, http://www.wcha.org/tidbits/steamfaq.html
# Free Plans, http://absolutelyfreeplans.com
# Loads of Free Plans and Links,
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr/flip/www/plans.html
# WoodShop Demos, lots of ww'ing demos and info,
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
# Woodworker's Central, where you can find reviews of equipment, FREE plans
and much much more, http://www.woodworking.org/
# WoodBin Plan Finder, http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/planfinder.htm
# Internet Woodworking.com W5, Free plans, much reference material,
http://www.internetwoodworking.com/
# Plans Now, pay ww'ing plans, http://www.plansnow.com/index.html
# Free Woodworking Plans, http://www.freeplans.com/
# More Free Woodworking Plans, http://plans.the3house.com/
# Woodweb, lots of ww'ing industry info, http://www.woodweb.com/
# Woodworking.com, http://www.woodworking.com/
# The Old Woodworking Machinery Website. Everything you wanted to
know about buying, restoring and using vintage woodworking machinery,
http://www.oldwwmachines.com/
# Bernie Hunt's Porter-Cable 557 plate joiner FAQ's,
http://www.huntfamily.com/pc557.cfm
# Old Tools Mailing List FAQ, info for collectors and users of old hand
tools, http://www.brendlers.net/oldtools/oldtools.html
# The Electronic Neanderthal, traditional ww'ing info,
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~alf/en/frontpage.html
# Patrick's Blood and Gore,
Everything you ever wanted to know about Stanley hand plans,
and much more, http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm
# The Stanley Bench Plane Dating Page
http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating/
# Scary Sharp, find out what all the fuss is about, how to sharpen tools
with sandpaper, http://www.shavings.net/SCARY.HTM#original
# crowbar FAQ http://www.shavings.net/CrowBarFAQ.HTM
** Links to Woodworking Magazines **
- Fine Woodworking, http://www.taunton.com/fw/
- Popular Woodworking, http://www.popularwoodworking.com/
- Wood Magazine, http://www.woodmagazine.com
- Woodworkers Journal, http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/
- Canadian Woodworking magazine, http://www.canadianwoodworking.com/
- Shop Notes Magazine, http://www.shopnotes.com/
- Woodsmith Magazine, http://www.woodsmith.com/
- Workbench Magazine, http://www.workbenchmagazine.com/
** Links to online retailers **
- Lee Valley (great tools), http://www.leevalley.com/home/main.asp
- Lie-Nielsen (top of the line hand planes), http://www.lie-nielsen.com/
- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes (top of the line wooden hand planes)
http://www.knight-toolworks.com/
- Grizzly, http://www.grizzly.com
- Rockler, http://www.rockler.com
- Woodcraft, http://www.woodcraft.com
- Garrett Wade, http://www.garrettwade.com
- Amazon, Tool Crib of the North, http://www.amazon.com/
- Jeff Jewit's Homestead Finishing, great finishing advice and finishing
products, http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
- Paddy O'deens (Patrick Olguin) Shellac.net, best Shellac on the net,
http://www.shellac.net/index.html
** Links to Woodworking Equipment manufacturers **
- General and General International, http://www.general.ca/
- Delta, http://www.deltawoodworking.com
- Jet USA, http://www.jettools.com/
- Jet Canada, http://www.jetequipment.com/
- Performax Sanders, http://www.performaxproducts.com/
- Powermatic, http://www.powermatic.com/
- Wilke Machinery Company (Bridgewood), http://www.wilkemachinery.com
- Dewalt, http://www.dewalt.com/us/core/
- Porter Cable, http://www.porter-cable.com/
- Hitachi Power Tools,
http://www.hitachi.com/product/personal/diy/index.html
- Makita, http://www.makita.com/
- Bosch, http://www.boschtools.com/
- Milwaukee, http://www.mil-electric-tool.com/
- Northfield Foundry & Machine Co., Serious Big Iron, in the old iron
tradition, http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com
- Forrest Saw Blades (makers of the famous WWII blade),
http://www.forrestsawblades.com/
- Leigh Dovetail Jig, best DT jig on the market, http://www.leighjigs.com
- Carter, the famous bandsaw guide company, http://www.carterproducts.com/
** Links to Woodworking shows on TV **
- New Yankee Workshop, http://www.newyankee.com/
- The Woodwright's Shop with Roy Underhill,
http://www.ibiblio.org/uncpress/woodwright/
- The Router Workshop, http://www.routerworkshop.com/
** Related News Groups **
- alt.binaries.pictures.furniture
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:10:12 -0700 (PDT), "jack-bench.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks for cutting me some slack. I appreciate that!!
>
>Charlie
As you probably noticed, most responses to your original post were favorable to
your bench and plans, just not the "web etiquette" involved, which you can't be
blamed for not knowing..
Hang out with us and make saw dust..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:280320101525271922%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Swing, it was posted through googlegroups
>
> Yowza! When did my GG filter get disabled? I shouldn't have even see
> his post!
Ditto! Methinks GG changed sometin, cuz I know I didn't.
jc
"jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:a3a0d6d8-f769-47e3-9037-dd4efcf26032@o30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 29, 8:31 pm, "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 7:10 pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the compliments and for the encouragement. It looks like
this can be a pretty tough group! Regardless of that, what I am
interested in is woodworking. I like making furniture, tables, boxes,
cabinets, etc. I enjoy carving, veneering, and getting lost in the
process. I am always looking at new techniques. The other day I
attended a seminar on gilding and mold making. I have not actually
built much in the last year or so, because getting those plans done
properly took so much of my free time. I am disapointed by the tone
of some of the postings I see here, but there is enough good that I do
plan to stick around this group.
Charlie
Charlie I really hope you do stick around. I mentioned that I was not fond
of the closed in area and that I would like to use that area for storage.
Have you ever considered screws in each leg to raise and lower the bench? I
would work like a planer does to raise and lower the table or cutter head,
one central screw that ties to all the others.
On 3/30/2010 5:27 PM, jack-bench.com wrote:
> Thanks for the compliments and for the encouragement. It looks like
> this can be a pretty tough group! Regardless of that, what I am
> interested in is woodworking. I like making furniture, tables, boxes,
> cabinets, etc. I enjoy carving, veneering, and getting lost in the
> process. I am always looking at new techniques. The other day I
> attended a seminar on gilding and mold making. I have not actually
> built much in the last year or so, because getting those plans done
> properly took so much of my free time. I am disapointed by the tone
> of some of the postings I see here, but there is enough good that I do
> plan to stick around this group.
You'll fit in fine ... as Lew say's, some of us have a tendency to huff
and puff on occasion, and we all manage to take a turn in that barrel,
but most respect each others contributions enough to not hold a grudge
after the occasional pissing contest is over and done with.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Mar 31, 5:48=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:a3a0d6d8-f769-47e3-9037-dd4efcf26032@o30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 29, 8:31 pm, "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 7:10 pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the compliments and for the encouragement. =A0It looks like
> this can be a pretty tough group! =A0Regardless of that, what I am
> interested in is woodworking. =A0I like making furniture, tables, boxes,
> cabinets, etc. =A0I enjoy carving, veneering, and getting lost in the
> process. =A0I am always looking at new techniques. =A0The other day I
> attended a seminar on gilding and mold making. =A0I have not actually
> built much in the last year or so, because getting those plans done
> properly took so much of my free time. =A0I am disapointed by the tone
> of some of the postings I see here, but there is enough good that I do
> plan to stick around this group.
>
> Charlie
>
> Charlie I really hope you do stick around. =A0I mentioned that I was not =
fond
> of the closed in area and that I would like to use that area for storage.
> Have you ever considered screws in each leg to raise and lower the bench?=
=A0I
> would work like a planer does to raise and lower the table or cutter head=
,
> one central screw that ties to all the others.
Hi Leon,
I considered many different designs. The reason I went with the
scissors jack is because it was simpler to build. I think using
scissors jacks are less expensive, too.
Charlie
On Mar 29, 8:31=A0pm, "Denis G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 7:10=A0pm, "jack-bench.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 5:18=A0pm, Nova <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > jack-bench.com wrote:
> > > > I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> > > > rules. =A0I will remove my original posting.
>
> > > > Charlie
>
> > > No need to apoligize, it's good to see a woodworking related post in
> > > this woodworking news group for a change. =A0I ask that you stick
> > > around... I'd says you'd be a welcomed addition to the group.
>
> > > --
> > > Jack Novak
> > > Buffalo, NY - USA
> > > [email protected]
>
> > Thanks for cutting me some slack. =A0I appreciate that!!
>
> > Charlie
>
> Looks like a great workbench! =A0It should be included in Scott Landis'
> book on workbenches if Taunton Press ever reissues it.- Hide quoted text =
-
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for the compliments and for the encouragement. It looks like
this can be a pretty tough group! Regardless of that, what I am
interested in is woodworking. I like making furniture, tables, boxes,
cabinets, etc. I enjoy carving, veneering, and getting lost in the
process. I am always looking at new techniques. The other day I
attended a seminar on gilding and mold making. I have not actually
built much in the last year or so, because getting those plans done
properly took so much of my free time. I am disapointed by the tone
of some of the postings I see here, but there is enough good that I do
plan to stick around this group.
Charlie
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:51:00 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 3/28/2010 3:32 PM, jack-bench.com wrote:
>> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
>> rules.
>
>If you're selling something it is customary to precede the Subject with
>"FS", so those who aren't interested can skip over it, but there are no
>rules, except for NOT posting binaries, so you didn't break any.
It's also acceptable to post a link to such things in a (short) sig or to
reference them in a thread where it's on topic, with appropriate disclaimers.
> > I will remove my original posting.
>
>You won't be able to do that, and it is not necessary.
>
>In any event, welcome ... any idea is welcome and this is certainly an
>idea worthy of consideration for many, and it was certainly on topic.
>
>The fact that you have plans is a good thing to know.
...and steal. ;-)
On 3/28/10 4:51 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/28/2010 3:32 PM, jack-bench.com wrote:
>> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
>> rules.
>
> If you're selling something it is customary to precede the Subject with
> "FS", so those who aren't interested can skip over it, but there are no
> rules, except for NOT posting binaries, so you didn't break any.
>
> > I will remove my original posting.
>
> You won't be able to do that, and it is not necessary.
>
> In any event, welcome ... any idea is welcome and this is certainly an
> idea worthy of consideration for many, and it was certainly on topic.
>
> The fact that you have plans is a good thing to know.
>
> Thanks ...
>
Swing, it was posted through googlegroups, he can get it removed from
there, unfortunately the rest of usenet will not respect the
cancellation. Another case of people thinking google is the better/only
way.
But I agree, it is an interesting idea, and he may be a valuable
contributor.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 3/28/2010 4:12 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On 3/28/10 4:51 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 3/28/2010 3:32 PM, jack-bench.com wrote:
>>> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
>>> rules.
>>
>> If you're selling something it is customary to precede the Subject with
>> "FS", so those who aren't interested can skip over it, but there are no
>> rules, except for NOT posting binaries, so you didn't break any.
>>
>> > I will remove my original posting.
>>
>> You won't be able to do that, and it is not necessary.
>>
>> In any event, welcome ... any idea is welcome and this is certainly an
>> idea worthy of consideration for many, and it was certainly on topic.
>>
>> The fact that you have plans is a good thing to know.
>>
>> Thanks ...
>>
> Swing, it was posted through googlegroups, he can get it removed from
> there, unfortunately the rest of usenet will not respect the
> cancellation. Another case of people thinking google is the better/only
> way.
Google bets on the come for future data mining revenue ... everything
gets archived.
It will indeed appear, from the Google user interface, that it has been
"removed" ... in reality, Google will have it cached somewhere in
perpetuity, even if it was canceled before the few minutes that it takes
for the message to be broadcast via nntp, and then you're correct, 'what
happens on the net, stays on the net'.
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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On 3/28/2010 3:32 PM, jack-bench.com wrote:
> I want to apologize if I offended anyone or if I violated any user
> rules.
If you're selling something it is customary to precede the Subject with
"FS", so those who aren't interested can skip over it, but there are no
rules, except for NOT posting binaries, so you didn't break any.
> I will remove my original posting.
You won't be able to do that, and it is not necessary.
In any event, welcome ... any idea is welcome and this is certainly an
idea worthy of consideration for many, and it was certainly on topic.
The fact that you have plans is a good thing to know.
Thanks ...
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)