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09/11/2008 9:02 PM

Grinder stones

It's probably time to replace the grey grinding stones that came with
my power grinder. While I use traditional whet stones and diamond
stones as well as the Scary Sharp method, there are times when a power
grinder is needed. (Such as when hitting a hidden nail with a
chisel.)

What are the best stones for woodworking tools? White, pink, or
whatever?


This topic has 9 replies

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 10:40 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Nov 10, 2:36 am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

> Your URL got mangled, at least using Firefox. The special characters (?
> and =) got turned in to their HTML equivalents and not turned back.
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4605
>
> *snip*

That's the one.

I got in the habit of using Tinyurl when those super long links would
wrap and then not work. And since it folds right into Firefox as an
add on, I have used it a lot over the last few years.

Tinyurl hits about 95% accuracy, and it is a dandy for long
addresses. But trying it, the compressed link didn't work for me
either.

Thanks for the fix.

*********************

How about the bracket approach?

<long URL>

It works for me. My wife likes to send long URL's to her friends all the
time. I showed her the brackets and she has been happy ever since. Her
URL's are going through and showing up with all the characters intact.




Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 5:52 PM

"MikeWhy" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
> Tinyurl hits about 95% accuracy, and it is a dandy for long
> addresses. But trying it, the compressed link didn't work for me
> either.
> -------
>
> The trouble with tinyurl is you can't see where it points. It becomes
> a matter of blind faith and trust that it doesn't lead you to
> someplace you wouldn't otherwise go. Pasting the long link inside
> angle brackets, '<' and '>', works for most newsreaders. Posting from
> Google groups might be different, however.
>
>

The solution is just to post the tiny URL link and the original. If the
original wraps, the tinyurl is there to let you click on something. If
the url might be suspicious or whatnot, the original's there to let the
reader determine if they want to go at all.

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 8:36 AM

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:9630bad0-
[email protected]:

*snip*

> If you are just generally goofing with your grinder, get a couple of
> good gray wheels and call it a day.
> If you are doing some sharpening, get at least a good set of whites.
> Strangely, you can get a slow speed grinder with good wheels on it at
> Woodcraft.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/68wh6e

Your URL got mangled, at least using Firefox. The special characters (?
and =) got turned in to their HTML equivalents and not turned back.

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4605

*snip*

> Robert

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

nn

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 7:30 AM

On Nov 10, 2:36=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

> Your URL got mangled, at least using Firefox. =A0The special characters (=
?
> and =3D) got turned in to their HTML equivalents and not turned back.
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=3D4605
>
> *snip*

That's the one.

I got in the habit of using Tinyurl when those super long links would
wrap and then not work. And since it folds right into Firefox as an
add on, I have used it a lot over the last few years.

Tinyurl hits about 95% accuracy, and it is a dandy for long
addresses. But trying it, the compressed link didn't work for me
either.

Thanks for the fix.

Robert

nn

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 1:00 PM

On Nov 10, 11:52=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

> The solution is just to post the tiny URL link and the original. =A0If th=
e
> original wraps, the tinyurl is there to let you click on something. =A0

I am not that concerned. If someone will blindly accept advice on
woodworking projects that they will try on their own, then they can
trust me with a link.

For that matter, any link can lead to a site that installs spyware,
malware, etc.

It could go to the extreme: post the search keywords including the
search engine (or meta engine) used, spell out the exact name of the
website using the top menu address only with instructions on searching
the individual site, and on and on.

I like the bracket idea. Simple, easy, clean. If someone has a
problem with it though, they will suggest tinyurl or its sisters, so
we will be back here on the discussions of how to handle long wraps.

I'm good with tinyurl as it is a right click away at any time from
Firefox, and at a 95% or better success rate, it's a keeper. I will
keep the bracket thing filed away for important stuff as that IS a
pretty good tip.

But be realistic; for someone that participates regularly in this
group it might be worth the extra effort to post all sources and your
rabbit trail of how you got there. But most of the time, you never
even know if the OP read any of the replies. Most throw the question
out then vanish.

Not worth the extra keystrokes.

Robert

nn

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 12:14 AM

On Nov 9, 8:02=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:


> What are the best stones for woodworking tools? =A0White, pink, or
> whatever?

Generally speaking, but not always, each stone color represents
different usages for the wheels.

Your needs will be best served by what you are going to grind. Nails,
most chisels, screwdrivers, lawanmower blades, etc. will all be easily
ground with gray alox wheels.

If you move to HSS, cobalts, or high molybdenum steels, then friables
are better. Friable wheels will grind carbon steels well, but they
don't hold up for really heavy use when doing so.

I have white friables on my slow speed grinder that I use for my lathe
tools (mostly HSS and some sintered or "powdered" metals) that have
lasted well. One side is 80 grit, the other is 120.
I can reshape my turning tools, and do any thing that a good gray
wheel can do with these wheels, but they need to be resurfaced
frequently as the surface breaks off to provide a clean cutting
surface. The friability feature also seems to make the cutting
surface of the wheels cooler.

Purple and pinks... now you are getting into some money. To my
knowledge they are all purpose made wheels, and they are made and
priced accordingly. I got a great 40 grit pink Norton wheel that cut
as smoothly as the 120 grit white. At $90 for the pink wheel (1" x
8" ), I was glad I got it as the last one on the closeout table.

If you are just generally goofing with your grinder, get a couple of
good gray wheels and call it a day.
If you are doing some sharpening, get at least a good set of whites.
Strangely, you can get a slow speed grinder with good wheels on it at
Woodcraft.

http://tinyurl.com/68wh6e

Every wood turner I know has this grinder. Once you start shopping
for wheels, you will note this grinder with the wheels is cheaper than
a set of wheels alone. I have two of them, and they both work great.
One has been on the job for about 10 years now, and still works great.

Robert





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beecrofter

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 5:45 AM

On Nov 9, 9:02=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> It's probably time to replace the grey grinding stones that came with
> my power grinder. =A0While I use traditional whet stones and diamond
> stones as well as the Scary Sharp method, there are times when a power
> grinder is needed. =A0(Such as when hitting a hidden nail with a
> chisel.)
>
> What are the best stones for woodworking tools? =A0White, pink, or
> whatever?

Try a softer wheel such as those made for a surface grinder, say "I"
hardness and 60 grit.

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 1:18 PM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:9630bad0-
> [email protected]:
>
> *snip*
>
>> If you are just generally goofing with your grinder, get a couple of
>> good gray wheels and call it a day.
>> If you are doing some sharpening, get at least a good set of whites.
>> Strangely, you can get a slow speed grinder with good wheels on it at
>> Woodcraft.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/68wh6e
>
> Your URL got mangled, at least using Firefox. The special characters (?
> and =) got turned in to their HTML equivalents and not turned back.
>
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=4605
>

Looks just like mine, save mine is a varb. speed. From HD with a Delta name
on it. The wrench free wheel change sucks, but other then that, it does
what I need.

I'll second the white wheel, good choice for HSS

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to [email protected] on 09/11/2008 9:02 PM

10/11/2008 10:00 AM

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Nov 10, 2:36 am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
Tinyurl hits about 95% accuracy, and it is a dandy for long
addresses. But trying it, the compressed link didn't work for me
either.
-------

The trouble with tinyurl is you can't see where it points. It becomes a
matter of blind faith and trust that it doesn't lead you to someplace you
wouldn't otherwise go. Pasting the long link inside angle brackets, '<' and
'>', works for most newsreaders. Posting from Google groups might be
different, however.


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