My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the depth
adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor to
the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten the
nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again not
good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
John
On May 6, 6:51=A0pm, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:
> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the de=
pth
> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor=
to
> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
> Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
> experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten th=
e
> nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again =
not
> good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
> requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
>
> John
Get a new replacement collet. That worked for me. Any accredited
service shop should be able to order one for you (or two, if you use
both 1/4" & 1/2" collets) .
Amazon has them too: http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-42999-4-Inch-Releas=
ing-Collet/dp/B0000222V6
Luigi
Lock levers as seen at the 310 link, ( http://patwarner.com/pc310_special.h=
tml
), a dime a dozen, will lock up that motor.
Reid tool & mcmaster.com
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On May 6, 4:51=A0pm, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:
> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the de=
pth
> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor=
to
> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
> Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
> experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten th=
e
> nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again =
not
> good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
> requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
>
> John
> Some people put a tiny o-ring in the bottom of the collet to hold the shaft clear.
I put the o-ring all the way up on the shaft of the bit. The tip of
the collet butts against the o-ring. For the most used bits, get an o-
ring for each bit.
I have an old Craftsman router that had similar tightening problems.
A good yearly cleaning prevents this problem.
Sonny
"John" <[email protected]> wrote:
> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining
> the depth
> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the
> motor to
> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
> Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
> experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to
> tighten the
> nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing,
> again not
> good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem.
> Dovetailing
> requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
-------------------------------
The old pliers trick worked for me.
Disassemble screw and nut, clean and reassemble with anti-seize
compound.
Lew
Thanks to all for your inputs.
I do not use a plunge router for dovetails. Is there something I am missing?
I re-visited the clamping mechanism on the PC 690. The head of the clamping
bolt has a square nut at the end which is offset on the bolt shank. Ideally,
this square head should lock itself into the boss on the base. I noticed
that even under full clamping pressure, the bolt can move slightly within
the boss. I placed a lock-washer under the square head, and this appears to
provide a measure of security. Time will tell.
It is possible that I had additional problems with the bit slipping in the
collet. I purchased a new collet and bit, and still experienced the same
problem. Please note that the original collet and bits are used in the
router table WITHOUT any problems. It is possible that I need to exert more
pressure when I install the bit(s) on the portable router.
Again, thanks for your inputs/advice. Much appreciated.
John
On May 6, 10:26=A0pm, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 6, 6:51=A0pm, "John" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> > dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the =
depth
> > adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the mot=
or to
> > the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
> > Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
> > experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten =
the
> > nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, agai=
n not
> > good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
> > requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
>
> > John
>
> Get a new replacement collet. That worked for me. Any accredited
> service shop should be able to order one for you (or two, if you use
> both 1/4" & 1/2" collets) .
>
> Amazon has them too:http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-42999-4-Inch-Relea=
sing-Collet/dp/B...
>
> Luigi
Oops, I misread, I thought it was the collet that was slipping.
Luigi
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the depth
> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor to
> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
> Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
> experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten the
> nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again not
> good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
> requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
I presume that's the plunge base. You might want to consider shelling
out 50 bucks or so to get the fixed base.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> writes:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>>
>> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
>> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the depth
>> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor to
>> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
>> Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
>> experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten the
>> nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again not
>> good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
>> requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
>
>I presume that's the plunge base. You might want to consider shelling
>out 50 bucks or so to get the fixed base.
Actually, it sounds like the fixed base. The older models used a thumbscrew
to tighten the base to the body. The newer models have a clamp.
scott
"John" wrote in message
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Thanks to all for your inputs.
I do not use a plunge router for dovetails. Is there something I am missing?
I re-visited the clamping mechanism on the PC 690. The head of the clamping
bolt has a square nut at the end which is offset on the bolt shank. Ideally,
this square head should lock itself into the boss on the base. I noticed
that even under full clamping pressure, the bolt can move slightly within
the boss. I placed a lock-washer under the square head, and this appears to
provide a measure of security. Time will tell.
It is possible that I had additional problems with the bit slipping in the
collet. I purchased a new collet and bit, and still experienced the same
problem. Please note that the original collet and bits are used in the
router table WITHOUT any problems. It is possible that I need to exert more
pressure when I install the bit(s) on the portable router.
Again, thanks for your inputs/advice. Much appreciated.
John
The lock washer will probably work for a time but lock washers are designed
to work one time. Each time you use it after that you are going to have
less than stellar results.
Swingman puts a pair of pliers on his to tighten the thumb screw. I suspect
with time the design wears out.
"John" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the depth
adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor to
the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
Searching the internet has provide me with one other woodworker who
experience the same problem. His solution was to use pliers to tighten the
nut/thumbscrew. Eventually, this will weaken the aluminum housing, again not
good!!! There must be a better way to solve this problem. Dovetailing
requires constant accuracy 100% of the time.
John
John, I've got that same router.
First, make sure the thumbscrew threads, both male and female, are good and
clean, and lube them lightly with just a touch of machine oil or even WD40.
Then lube the mating face under the thumbscrew with something heavier like
synthetic white grease. This will make sure that the thumbscrew will go all
the way tight and not hang up as you tighten it. An alternative would be to
use anti-seizing compound on the threads, which would ease the tightening a
bit without actually lubricating them.
I take the body out of the base and clean it and the inside of the base with
a 3M pad to make sure that it's good and clean, and lube it as well with
light machine oil.
After a good clean-up like that I can usually hand-tighten the thumbscrew
and it'll hold just fine. But just to be sure when I'm going to be doing
something like dovetails I take a small pair of pliers and give it just a
little bit more - less than an eighth of a turn. That hasn't done any
noticeable harm to the housing in the fifteen years or so that I've had the
router, although it's pretty lightly used (no production work).
Be sure that it's not the collet that's slipping. That'll show you the same
symptoms. Clean the collet - both the inside and the threads - and the shaft
of the router bit really well, lube the collet threads and the nut as above,
and when you tighten up the collet make sure that the shaft is just a little
bit clear of the bottom before you start to tighten it. Some people put a
tiny o-ring in the bottom of the collet to hold the shaft clear.
I don't seem to have problems when I use these procedures, unless I just
fail to crank it down as far as it'll go by hand. Watching the router drop
out of the base and sit there running under a router table makes you real
thoughtful there for a minute.
You also might consider getting one of the newer bases with the cam-over
lever that locks the router into the base. I'm tempted by that myself but
haven't pursued it.
Tom
"Tom Dacon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "John" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> My PC 690 is over 10 years old and has served me well. I have been
> dovetailing several new drawers and am having problems maintaining the
> depth
> adjustment. It appears the locking nut that is supposed to lock the motor
> to
> the base will loosen and allow the bit to drop. Not good !!!
You might google this. I recall someone having a kit that fixed this, but
I'm not sure if it was this model. Maybe someone else here will remember.
"routerman" wrote in message
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Lock levers as seen at the 310 link, (
http://patwarner.com/pc310_special.html
), a dime a dozen, will lock up that motor.
Reid tool & mcmaster.com
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Excellent!
Tom