wn

woodchucker

26/12/2013 2:30 PM

Mold release agent

I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
I've tried soap and water
alcohol
sikkens m600 paint prep
prepsol (paint prep)

None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
be useful on this plastic?


--
Jeff


This topic has 17 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 7:54 AM

On 12/26/2013 1:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
> I've tried soap and water
> alcohol
> sikkens m600 paint prep
> prepsol (paint prep)
>
> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
> be useful on this plastic?
>
>

Clorox? ;!)

Sk

Swingman

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 1:11 AM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
> I've tried soap and water
> alcohol
> sikkens m600 paint prep
> prepsol (paint prep)
>
> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
> be useful on this plastic?

Goof Off?
--
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LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

26/12/2013 7:32 PM




Mike Marlow wrote:

>> You might try this Jeff - I just did a quick google search and I
>> didn't
>> spend any time qualifying my search at all. This is just one of
>> the first
>> things that came up and it seems to make some sense...
>>
>> Soap - Wipe or brush the casting with a soap that has high alkali
>> content.
>> CascadeT brand dishwashing gel is highly alkaline and also contains
>> baking
>> soda, which is an advantage.
--------------------------------------------------
"woodchucker" wrote:

> Thanks Mike, the soap with alkali might do it.
> Not keen on the Acetone, or Toluene, as I think the plastic might
> melt... tried the others... really tenacious mold release. Normally
> I get the stuff off no problem.. this one just feels slippery after
> all other attempts.
--------------------------------------------------
Don't remember how I found this stuff but it is dynamite for kitchen
and stove cleaning.

I got a bottle of Method All-Purpose natural surface cleaner for about
$4
at Target.

Add some tooth brushes and you just might surprise yourself.

If nothing else, there are no hydrocarbons involved.

http://tinyurl.com/llfttej

Lew







LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 11:22 AM

Swingman wrote:

> Goof Off?
------------------------------------------------
Test first.

Might attack base surface you want to protect.

BTDT

Lew

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

26/12/2013 9:54 PM

On 12/26/2013 9:55 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> woodchucker wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what
>> might be useful on this plastic?
>
> You might try this Jeff - I just did a quick google search and I didn't
> spend any time qualifying my search at all. This is just one of the first
> things that came up and it seems to make some sense...
>
> Soap - Wipe or brush the casting with a soap that has high alkali content.
> CascadeT brand dishwashing gel is highly alkaline and also contains baking
> soda, which is an advantage.
>
> Solvents - Wipe or brush the casting with Acetone, Toluene, Isopropyl
> Alcohol or Mineral Spirits. Important; follow all safety precautions when
> using flammable liquids.
>

Thanks Mike, the soap with alkali might do it.
Not keen on the Acetone, or Toluene, as I think the plastic might
melt... tried the others... really tenacious mold release. Normally I
get the stuff off no problem.. this one just feels slippery after all
other attempts.



--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 10:26 AM

On 12/27/2013 2:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>> be useful on this plastic?
>
> Goof Off?
>

I've got lighter fluid, same stuff I think, I'll give that a try.

Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 10:25 AM

On 12/27/2013 9:12 AM, BenignBodger wrote:
> On 12/26/2013 2:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what
>> might be
>> useful on this plastic?
>>
>>
>
>
> I have found that many 'uncleanable' things come out pretty well after a
> long cycle in the dishwasher. The method even works fine with snowmobile
> engines once they are disassembled. The combination of uber-hot water
> and highly alkaline detergent can deal with some pretty nasty stuff. At
> worst you have wasted a couple of hours and $.25 of soap and water.

Not willing to piss the wife off. She supports my habit, so we want to
continue on that path... ;-)

>
> But on another tack, are you sure that it really is mold release agent
> you are dealing with? Some plastics simply have a sort of slimy-feeling
> surface finish of their own, particularly when they are cast extremely
> smooth. This is just the sort of plastic that a manufacturer might
> choose in an application where having glue not stick is important.

My hands feel slimy after. So I think it's release agent.



--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 10:28 AM

On 12/27/2013 9:34 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 12/26/2013 1:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>> be useful on this plastic?
>>
>>
>
>
> It has finally dawned on me that you might be dealing with new clamps.
> What brand are they actually?
>
> I bought a set of Woodline clamps and the wood staining goo was not to
> be cleaned off and that was basically from the mouth of the owner of the
> company. He was fighting with the manufacturer in China to remedy the
> problem several years ago.

These are the kbody blocks that woodcraft sells, not clamps, no stain.



--
Jeff

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 8:34 AM

On 12/26/2013 1:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
> I've tried soap and water
> alcohol
> sikkens m600 paint prep
> prepsol (paint prep)
>
> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
> be useful on this plastic?
>
>


It has finally dawned on me that you might be dealing with new clamps.
What brand are they actually?

I bought a set of Woodline clamps and the wood staining goo was not to
be cleaned off and that was basically from the mouth of the owner of the
company. He was fighting with the manufacturer in China to remedy the
problem several years ago.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 2:11 PM

On 12/27/2013 10:50 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 12/27/13, 1:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>>> I've tried soap and water
>>> alcohol
>>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>>
>>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>>> be useful on this plastic?
>>
>> Goof Off?
>>
>
> There's an outdoor furniture cleaner we use that contains a lot of
> bleach. It think it's called "Red Max." It works wonders. Look for a
> specific outdoor cleaner. The bleach kills the mold and removed the
> stains, while the cleaning agents lift it from the surface to be
> sprayed/scrubbed off.
>
>
This is mold release agent for removing parts from a mold, not mold as
in the living cell type.

--
Jeff

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

26/12/2013 9:55 PM

woodchucker wrote:
> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
> I've tried soap and water
> alcohol
> sikkens m600 paint prep
> prepsol (paint prep)
>
> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what
> might be useful on this plastic?

You might try this Jeff - I just did a quick google search and I didn't
spend any time qualifying my search at all. This is just one of the first
things that came up and it seems to make some sense...

Soap - Wipe or brush the casting with a soap that has high alkali content.
CascadeT brand dishwashing gel is highly alkaline and also contains baking
soda, which is an advantage.

Solvents - Wipe or brush the casting with Acetone, Toluene, Isopropyl
Alcohol or Mineral Spirits. Important; follow all safety precautions when
using flammable liquids.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 7:51 AM

Swingman wrote:
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what
>> might be useful on this plastic?
>
> Goof Off?

Sheese - why didn't I think of that? I use that stuff or cigarette lighter
fluid to clean the residue from adhesives all the time. Can't beat it.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Bn

BenignBodger

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 9:12 AM

On 12/26/2013 2:30 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
> I've tried soap and water
> alcohol
> sikkens m600 paint prep
> prepsol (paint prep)
>
> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might be
> useful on this plastic?
>
>


I have found that many 'uncleanable' things come out pretty well after a
long cycle in the dishwasher. The method even works fine with snowmobile
engines once they are disassembled. The combination of uber-hot water and
highly alkaline detergent can deal with some pretty nasty stuff. At worst
you have wasted a couple of hours and $.25 of soap and water.

But on another tack, are you sure that it really is mold release agent you
are dealing with? Some plastics simply have a sort of slimy-feeling surface
finish of their own, particularly when they are cast extremely smooth. This
is just the sort of plastic that a manufacturer might choose in an
application where having glue not stick is important.

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 9:50 AM

On 12/27/13, 1:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>> I've tried soap and water
>> alcohol
>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>
>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>> be useful on this plastic?
>
> Goof Off?
>

There's an outdoor furniture cleaner we use that contains a lot of
bleach. It think it's called "Red Max." It works wonders. Look for a
specific outdoor cleaner. The bleach kills the mold and removed the
stains, while the cleaning agents lift it from the surface to be
sprayed/scrubbed off.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

27/12/2013 2:41 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>
>> Goof Off?
> ------------------------------------------------
> Test first.
>
> Might attack base surface you want to protect.
>
> BTDT
>

Interesting. I've found that Gew Gone had that effedt, but I had not found
Goof Off to have the same effect. This is worth the learning moment,,

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

28/12/2013 12:54 AM

On 12/27/13, 1:11 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 12/27/2013 10:50 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 12/27/13, 1:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>>>> I've tried soap and water
>>>> alcohol
>>>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>>>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>>>
>>>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>>>> be useful on this plastic?
>>>
>>> Goof Off?
>>>
>>
>> There's an outdoor furniture cleaner we use that contains a lot of
>> bleach. It think it's called "Red Max." It works wonders. Look for a
>> specific outdoor cleaner. The bleach kills the mold and removed the
>> stains, while the cleaning agents lift it from the surface to be
>> sprayed/scrubbed off.
>>
>>
> This is mold release agent for removing parts from a mold, not mold as
> in the living cell type.
>

Oops. Brainfart. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to woodchucker on 26/12/2013 2:30 PM

28/12/2013 12:56 AM

On 12/27/13, 1:11 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 12/27/2013 10:50 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 12/27/13, 1:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
>>> woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I have tried cleaning those K type blocks off,
>>>> I've tried soap and water
>>>> alcohol
>>>> sikkens m600 paint prep
>>>> prepsol (paint prep)
>>>>
>>>> None of these is cleaning the mold release off. Any ideas on what might
>>>> be useful on this plastic?
>>>
>>> Goof Off?
>>>
>>
>> There's an outdoor furniture cleaner we use that contains a lot of
>> bleach. It think it's called "Red Max." It works wonders. Look for a
>> specific outdoor cleaner. The bleach kills the mold and removed the
>> stains, while the cleaning agents lift it from the surface to be
>> sprayed/scrubbed off.
>>
>>
> This is mold release agent for removing parts from a mold, not mold as
> in the living cell type.
>

DOH! Brain fart. My bad.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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