Pp

Puckdropper

13/06/2012 12:07 AM

Broke a bandsaw blade

I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece moved
on the sled caused the failure.

My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but a
gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.


This topic has 17 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 6:33 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Puckdropper wrote:

> I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece moved
> on the sled caused the failure.
>
> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but a
> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.

This is probably a good excuse to do a tune-up on the saw... check for
co-planar wheels, check the blocks or bearings, tires, etc.

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

13/06/2012 2:14 PM

In article <[email protected]>, A. W.
Dunstan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Puckdropper wrote:
> >
> >> I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
> >> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
> >> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece
> >> moved on the sled caused the failure.
> >>
> >> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
> >> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but
> >> a gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
> >
> > This is probably a good excuse to do a tune-up on the saw... check for
> > co-planar wheels, check the blocks or bearings, tires, etc.
>
> Out of curiousity how do you check for co-planarity of the wheels? My
> bandsaw is fairly new, but I'm curious how it's done.

The quick answer is "use a straight edge".

Snag a copy of Duginske's "Bandsaw Handbook"... It's a good resource.

--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

13/06/2012 3:38 AM

tiredofspam <nospam.nospam.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> If this is a delta 14" take a look at the piece that hung up.
> It's prone to bending at least according to Iturra... He has a new
> better piece. If mine ever goes I'll get his... since my post doesn't
> track straight up and down and his somehow remedies that.
>
>

It's a 14" Jet. Everything seemed ok, but that was only during a quick
onceover trying to figure out how to get the top wheel free again. I'll
have to take a closer look at it.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

13/06/2012 3:43 AM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS
>>universe)
>> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
>> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece
>> moved on the sled caused the failure.
>>
>> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I
>> put another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up
>> top, but a
>> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>
> I'd check the tires for cuts....
>
> A few weeks back I had a tire break while doing a lot of resawing of
> large pine boards. I didn't even notice as the saw kept cutting just
> fine as the wheel itself is crowned. It wasn't until I was cleaning up
> and found the broken tire laying in the bottom of the saw that I knew
> the tire broke. I thought that was really weird! It was one of the
> tight fitting, non-rubber tires and it appears to have broken at the
> joint as it was a perfectly straight break.
>
> John
>
>
>

I was planning on changing the tires anyway, so maybe I'll delay putting
a blade on until the new ones get here. One of them moved on me a couple
days ago as I was putting a different blade on, so I figured it was time
to replace them.

This bandsaw has taught me a lot about bandsaws, but it sure does gobble
up the parts...

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

15/06/2012 1:55 AM

Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 6/14/2012 5:37 PM, noone wrote:
>> Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)
>
> And rotate them every 3000 miles ...
>

Wait, you're supposed to rotate them every 3000 miles?! I thought I was
supposed to do that soon before and during each use. No wonder they need
to be changed!

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

15/06/2012 6:08 AM

Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:55:15 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)
>>And rotate them every 3000 miles ...
>
> And when the treads are worn down and they're bare, it's time to
> replace them...
>

Bandsaw tires are more like drag slicks... How can you tell with those?
(Not the bandsaw tires.)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

13/06/2012 2:37 PM

You take the table off and anything that restricts putting a level or
straight edge against the wheels.

Both wheels are co-planar when they touch the wheels at 4 points.

So first start with the very top and bottom of the wheels stick a
straight edge/level across them. Then move out to 2 other points on each
side of center. It should still touch at 4 points. If not adjust ..

On my delta w/riser block I had to remove the pins in the riser block.
Delta had no idea how to drill the block or the frame so the whole thing
was twisted. Do what you have to to get it in line. Once you do the
cutting performance is greatly enhanced.

On 6/13/2012 2:09 PM, A. W. Dunstan wrote:

> Out of curiousity how do you check for co-planarity of the wheels? My
> bandsaw is fairly new, but I'm curious how it's done.
>

Du

Dave

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

15/06/2012 1:10 AM

On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:55:15 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)
>And rotate them every 3000 miles ...

And when the treads are worn down and they're bare, it's time to
replace them...

Nn

Nova

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 9:29 PM

On 13 Jun 2012 00:07:46 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
>and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
>cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece moved
>on the sled caused the failure.
>
>My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
>another blade on?

Yes, make sure the blades teeth point down. (DAMHIKT).
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

14/06/2012 5:55 PM

On 6/14/2012 5:37 PM, noone wrote:
> Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in

>> I was planning on changing the tires anyway, so maybe I'll delay
>> putting a blade on until the new ones get here. One of them moved on
>> me a couple days ago as I was putting a different blade on, so I
>> figured it was time to replace them.
>>
>> This bandsaw has taught me a lot about bandsaws, but it sure does
>> gobble up the parts...
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)

And rotate them every 3000 miles ...

--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
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http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

AW

"A. W. Dunstan"

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

13/06/2012 2:09 PM

Dave Balderstone wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
>> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
>> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece
>> moved on the sled caused the failure.
>>
>> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
>> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but
>> a gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>
> This is probably a good excuse to do a tune-up on the saw... check for
> co-planar wheels, check the blocks or bearings, tires, etc.

Out of curiousity how do you check for co-planarity of the wheels? My
bandsaw is fairly new, but I'm curious how it's done.

--
Al Dunstan, Software Engineer
OptiMetrics, Inc.
3115 Professional Drive
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-5131

"There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies."
- C. A. R. Hoare

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

15/06/2012 8:45 AM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:55:15 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)
>>>And rotate them every 3000 miles ...
>>
>> And when the treads are worn down and they're bare, it's time to
>> replace them...
>>
>
> Bandsaw tires are more like drag slicks... How can you tell with those?
> (Not the bandsaw tires.)

In either case, when there is more of the tire on the ground than on the
wheel it's time to change them...

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 9:57 PM

It is item # 10405 improved delta 14" tracking arm...
There are catalogs on line from various sources. I wish Iturra would put
his catalog online.

On 6/12/2012 9:35 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
> If this is a delta 14" take a look at the piece that hung up.
> It's prone to bending at least according to Iturra... He has a new
> better piece. If mine ever goes I'll get his... since my post doesn't
> track straight up and down and his somehow remedies that.
>
>
> On 6/12/2012 8:07 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
>> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
>> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece
>> moved
>> on the sled caused the failure.
>>
>> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
>> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top,
>> but a
>> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>>
>> Puckdropper

nn

noone

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

14/06/2012 10:37 PM

Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS
>>>universe)
>>> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling
>>> blade cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the
>>> piece moved on the sled caused the failure.
>>>
>>> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when
>>> I put another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal
>>> up top, but a
>>> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>>
>> I'd check the tires for cuts....
>>
>> A few weeks back I had a tire break while doing a lot of resawing of
>> large pine boards. I didn't even notice as the saw kept cutting just
>> fine as the wheel itself is crowned. It wasn't until I was cleaning
>> up and found the broken tire laying in the bottom of the saw that I
>> knew the tire broke. I thought that was really weird! It was one of
>> the tight fitting, non-rubber tires and it appears to have broken at
>> the joint as it was a perfectly straight break.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was planning on changing the tires anyway, so maybe I'll delay
> putting a blade on until the new ones get here. One of them moved on
> me a couple days ago as I was putting a different blade on, so I
> figured it was time to replace them.
>
> This bandsaw has taught me a lot about bandsaws, but it sure does
> gobble up the parts...
>
> Puckdropper

Don't forget to inflate the tires to the proper pressure. :)

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 11:57 PM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS
>>>universe)
>>> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
>>> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece
>>> moved on the sled caused the failure.
>>>
>>> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I
>>> put another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up
>>> top, but a
>>> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>>
>> I'd check the tires for cuts....
>>
>> A few weeks back I had a tire break while doing a lot of resawing of
>> large pine boards. I didn't even notice as the saw kept cutting just
>> fine as the wheel itself is crowned. It wasn't until I was cleaning up
>> and found the broken tire laying in the bottom of the saw that I knew
>> the tire broke. I thought that was really weird! It was one of the
>> tight fitting, non-rubber tires and it appears to have broken at the
>> joint as it was a perfectly straight break.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was planning on changing the tires anyway, so maybe I'll delay putting
> a blade on until the new ones get here. One of them moved on me a couple
> days ago as I was putting a different blade on, so I figured it was time
> to replace them.
>
> This bandsaw has taught me a lot about bandsaws, but it sure does gobble
> up the parts...

My credo has been "To really learn about something bust it and then fix it!"

I took the opportunity to go over my whole bandsaw and tweak it after the
tire broke. It worked much better afterwards with the tweaking, new tire and
new blade.... I had been running it nearly non-stop for a couple-three days
so the improvement was very noticeable.

John



JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 9:42 PM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece moved
> on the sled caused the failure.
>
> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but
> a
> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.

I'd check the tires for cuts....

A few weeks back I had a tire break while doing a lot of resawing of large
pine boards. I didn't even notice as the saw kept cutting just fine as the
wheel itself is crowned. It wasn't until I was cleaning up and found the
broken tire laying in the bottom of the saw that I knew the tire broke. I
thought that was really weird! It was one of the tight fitting, non-rubber
tires and it appears to have broken at the joint as it was a perfectly
straight break.

John

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to Puckdropper on 13/06/2012 12:07 AM

12/06/2012 9:35 PM

If this is a delta 14" take a look at the piece that hung up.
It's prone to bending at least according to Iturra... He has a new
better piece. If mine ever goes I'll get his... since my post doesn't
track straight up and down and his somehow remedies that.


On 6/12/2012 8:07 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> I broke a bandsaw blade today, a big bang (no new life in THIS universe)
> and the blade was broken. Looks like stress due to the dulling blade
> cutting through several logs and perhaps a twist from when the piece moved
> on the sled caused the failure.
>
> My question is this: Is there anything I should watch out for when I put
> another blade on? The top wheel got stuck on the sheet metal up top, but a
> gentle whack with a mallet solved that issue.
>
> Puckdropper


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