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"Herman Family"

05/04/2004 9:17 PM

burning sawdust

I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any problem
with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated woods,
just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.

Michael


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Dave in Fairfax

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

05/04/2004 9:37 PM

Herman Family wrote:
> I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
> of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any problem
> with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated woods,
> just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.

Burning pine in a device that has a chimney is a bad idea. The build-up
can cause a great chimbly far. ,-)

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"George"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

05/04/2004 5:38 PM

Sawdust is problematic - remember, you need heat, fuel and oxygen, and the
packed dust allows little of the third. Shavings from the planer or
jointer, on the other hand, are pretty easily burned. Problem is, they're
awful tough to get into the stove without making a mess.

We make big doobies with shavings and full sheets of newsprint for fire
lighting, and sometimes, when the shop's just too dirty, we use them as
quick flame over a bed of coals, which, BTW, is the only way to reliably do
_dust_ that I know of.

"Herman Family" <[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
> of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any
problem
> with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated
woods,
> just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.
>
> Michael
>
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

06/04/2004 7:03 AM

Certainly. Imagine a stove wouldn't favor what is essentially a fireplace
"log" though. As to excess newspaper, you obviously don't live here, where
the evening paper (motto: "Yesterday's News Tomorrow") equals about one
section of a normal urban paper. Not much problem with excess.

"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, George <george@least> wrote:
> >Sawdust is problematic - remember, you need heat, fuel and oxygen, and
the
> >packed dust allows little of the third.
>
> Ever see "Pres-to", a 'manufactured" fireplace log? Nothing but
compressed
> sawdust with some 'binder' material.

> There's a "log roller" for making fireplace logs out of excess newspapers.
> Relatively inexpensive gadget. Spreading a bunch of sawdust and/or
shavings
> into the paper, before rolling, results in a better-burning,
longer-lasting,
> newspaper 'log'.
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

11/04/2004 8:32 AM

Bluefish hell, even suckers taste good when they're smoked to a "T."

I use the shavings from the chainsaw. Seems there's always a cherry log in
the stack somewhere. If not, aspen.

"Virgle Griffith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8t%[email protected]...
I was visiting a friend on the coast in
> N. C. and he wanted to give me some of his smoked bluefish.
> I told him I wouldn't give 2 cents for ever blue fish in the ocean. He
said
> you haven't tried mine. They were great.
> He gave me his recipe for soaking the fish so I wound up with a smoker.

km

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

11/04/2004 8:12 AM

"Herman Family" <[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
> of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any problem
> with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated woods,
> just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.
>
> Michael

Michael, years ago I saw an article on using sawdust for fuel. I do
not recall exactly how it worked. A piece of pipe is inserted
vertically into the homemade furnace. Sawdust is packed down tightly
around the pipe, then the pipe is removed leaving a flue. Try a
search, maybe there's something on the web that can further explain
this.
mike

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

06/04/2004 4:23 AM

In article <[email protected]>, George <george@least> wrote:
>Sawdust is problematic - remember, you need heat, fuel and oxygen, and the
>packed dust allows little of the third.

Ever see "Pres-to", a 'manufactured" fireplace log? Nothing but compressed
sawdust with some 'binder' material.

> Shavings from the planer or
>jointer, on the other hand, are pretty easily burned. Problem is, they're
>awful tough to get into the stove without making a mess.
>
>We make big doobies with shavings and full sheets of newsprint for fire
>lighting, and sometimes, when the shop's just too dirty, we use them as
>quick flame over a bed of coals, which, BTW, is the only way to reliably do
>_dust_ that I know of.

There's a "log roller" for making fireplace logs out of excess newspapers.
Relatively inexpensive gadget. Spreading a bunch of sawdust and/or shavings
into the paper, before rolling, results in a better-burning, longer-lasting,
newspaper 'log'.


>
>"Herman Family" <[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
>> of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any
>problem
>> with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated
>woods,
>> just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
>

VG

"Virgle Griffith"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

10/04/2004 11:31 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" . Hardwood sawdust is used for
> smoke curing meats that way. You put a pan of sawdust on a hotplate. You
> can see this on my web page. Smolders and gives off smoke, does not burn
> and flame up.
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

Just looking at your smoker.
One of the real old refrigerators that is all metal inside makes a great
smoker.
I added extra shelves to smoke fish. I was visiting a friend on the coast in
N. C. and he wanted to give me some of his smoked bluefish.
I told him I wouldn't give 2 cents for ever blue fish in the ocean. He said
you haven't tried mine. They were great.
He gave me his recipe for soaking the fish so I wound up with a smoker. If
you are interested in the recipe drop me an e-mail
Virgle

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

05/04/2004 10:04 PM

Herman Family wrote:
> I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious
> quantities of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is
> there any problem with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not
> deal with treated woods, just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.
>
> Michael


It makes poor fuel. It just burns up quickly and produces little heat - if,
that is, you don't snuff the fire with the sawdust. I've burned a lot of it
in my stove simply to get rid of it but I sure would not count on it as a
fuel source.
--

-Mike-
[email protected]

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

10/04/2004 10:33 PM


"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>, George <george@least> wrote:
> >Sawdust is problematic - remember, you need heat, fuel and oxygen, and
the
> >packed dust allows little of the third.
>
> Ever see "Pres-to", a 'manufactured" fireplace log? Nothing but
compressed
> sawdust with some 'binder' material.

True, but there is a huge difference between a compressed log and a pig pile
of sawdust. The pile will sit and smolder. Hardwood sawdust is used for
smoke curing meats that way. You put a pan of sawdust on a hotplate. You
can see this on my web page. Smolders and gives off smoke, does not burn
and flame up.

Just sprinkling sawdust into a stove or fireplace does little good also.
Flares up and is gone in seconds.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

JJ

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 10/04/2004 10:33 PM

10/04/2004 7:46 PM

Sat, Apr 10, 2004, 10:33pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski)
says:
True, but there is a huge difference between a compressed log and a pig
pile of sawdust. <snip> Just sprinkling sawdust into a stove or
fireplace does little good also. Flares up and is gone in seconds.

Sawmills use "Dutch ovens" to burn sawdust. A bit more complex
then just putting a steady stream of sawdust in. Interesting.

Smaller scale, inexpensive:
http://www.manythings.org/voa/03/030811dr_t.htm

Bigger scale, more $:
http://www.burnchips.com/

Some hobby steamboaters have speerminted with sawdust as fuel - not
sure of the results.

Loads more info on google.

JOAT
Don't e-mail me while I'm breathing.

a

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

11/04/2004 5:58 PM

Hi Andy! :)

Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sawdust is fine, but it tends to burn very slowly.

When I was a kid I remember seeing huge piles of saw dust burning
from the top. Hardly any flame at all, only reason you knew it
was burning is from all the smoke. Don't remember how long my
grandfather said it took a 20 foot tall pile of saw dust to burn
up but "seems like" it was measured in months. 6 months?

> It compacts into a solid pile and smoulders from the bottom.
> Smert' spamionam

Actually I was thinking the other way around the sawdust tends to
insulate the interior so it doesn't burn so good. At least that's
what I see. :/

Alvin in AZ <--didn't take wood shop in school got talked out of it :(

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

05/04/2004 11:12 PM

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 21:17:41 GMT, "Herman Family"
<[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote:

>I've noticed that my planer and jointer tend to produce copious quantities
>of dry wood. I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any problem
>with using sawdust as fuel for the stove? I do not deal with treated woods,
>just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.
>
>Michael
>

Sawdust does not make good fuel for a wood stove. Make a compost pile
and mix grass clippings (or other green stuff) with the sawdust. In
six months you'll have rich humus for flower beds, vegetable garden,
or shrubs.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "Herman Family" on 05/04/2004 9:17 PM

06/04/2004 12:48 AM

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 21:17:41 GMT, "Herman Family"
<[email protected]/without_any_s/> wrote:

>I happen to have a wood burning stove. Is there any problem
>with using sawdust as fuel for the stove?

Sawdust is fine, but it tends to burn very slowly. It compacts into a
solid pile and smoulders from the bottom. Good for keeping a stove in
overnight, but it doesn't produce much heat for the size of grate.
Many woodworkers burn lump offcuts for heat, then fill up with sawdust
last thing at night.

> I do not deal with treated woods,
>just kiln dried pine, oak, and mahogany.

Resinous timber makes for a lot of soot - you'll need to sweep the
flue more often.

--
Smert' spamionam


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