I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
vertical, with miters at the corners.
I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
advice, guidance, and assistance.
Thanx
Jim
the complement angle is what i was thinking.
"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Basically you will have to make some cauls that are the opposite of the
> angle that you are trying to glue.(to make it 90') I cant think of the
word
> right now.
>
> "Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> > groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> > bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> > surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> > vertical, with miters at the corners.
> >
> > I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> > to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> > advice, guidance, and assistance.
> >
> > Thanx
> > Jim
> >
>
>
Basically you will have to make some cauls that are the opposite of the
angle that you are trying to glue.(to make it 90') I cant think of the word
right now.
"Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
> I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
> Thanx
> Jim
>
Phisherman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:48:50 -0500, Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> >groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> >bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> >surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> >vertical, with miters at the corners.
> >
> >I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> >to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> >advice, guidance, and assistance.
> >
> >Thanx
> >Jim
>
> Sometimes I'll use twine or light nylon rope to clamp up an irregular
> piece and use a tourniquet (6" stick) to tighten it up. It's amazing
> how well this technique works for cheap. A web clamp works too, but
> I often find myself fussing too much with those web clamps.
Duct tape works well. Tear off a strip a few inches longer than the total
lengths of the pieces to be clamped, lay it adhesive side up. Lay the
pieces along the tape. Apply glue, then roll up.
Wedge blocks made to the angle. See if you can locate the end trims. Put
them in the appropriate places and clamp your returned-to-ninety box.
Hope that groove is at the proper angle. Makes it tough, otherwise -
DAMHIKT.
"Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
> I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
> Thanx
> Jim
>
Spot of bright in the gloom - you'll _never_ do it again.
"Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0500, "George"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hope that groove is at the proper angle. Makes it tough, otherwise -
> >DAMHIKT.
>
> Uhhhh, yeah, I discovered that little fly in the ointment when I tried
> a dry fit of the pieces. Ended up recutting the groove at the correct
> angle. It's not quite as neat as I had hoped, but I'm hoping the cat
> won't notice. :->
>
Use the masking tape to hold it in the proper place then get some of that
clear plastic wrapping tape that they use for holding absolutely everything
in the world together. They sell it at HD .
it is great for clamping odd shaped peice together Does not stick to the
glue and you can pull as much pressure as you want.
Good Luck,
George
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If your joints fit well, you can use masking tape. If you feel the need
for
> more pressure, use bungee cords.
>
>
> "Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> > groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> > bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> > surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> > vertical, with miters at the corners.
> >
> > I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> > to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> > advice, guidance, and assistance.
> >
> > Thanx
> > Jim
> >
>
>
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:45:02 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Ehvee8or wrote:
>
>> Uhhhh, yeah, I discovered that little fly in the ointment when I tried
>> a dry fit of the pieces. Ended up recutting the groove at the correct
>> angle. It's not quite as neat as I had hoped, but I'm hoping the cat
>> won't notice. :->
>
>LOL! Cats are picky buggers. It will probably turn its nose up at you
>until you re-do it at the proper angle, and re-make the project out of
>solid walnut burl next time too.
That, and they also tend to sleep where they darn well please. This
project strikes me as an immense (well, not too immense) waste of
effort, but SWMBO wanted it, so....
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:57:55 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Wedge blocks made to the angle. See if you can locate the end trims. Put
>them in the appropriate places and clamp your returned-to-ninety box.
>
>Hope that groove is at the proper angle. Makes it tough, otherwise -
>DAMHIKT.
Uhhhh, yeah, I discovered that little fly in the ointment when I tried
a dry fit of the pieces. Ended up recutting the groove at the correct
angle. It's not quite as neat as I had hoped, but I'm hoping the cat
won't notice. :->
Dear Jim,
Screws and plugs...
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If your joints fit well, you can use masking tape. If you feel the need for
more pressure, use bungee cords.
"Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
> I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
> Thanx
> Jim
>
Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> >groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> >bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> >surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> >vertical, with miters at the corners.
> >
> >I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> >to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> >advice, guidance, and assistance.
> >
> >Thanx
> >Jim
You might try elastic bands, surgical tube, inner tube, bungee cords
etc. or a Spanish windlass. Something you probably have on hand and
will work as well as any fancy-assed thing you can buy.
Mike
Depending on how big and heavy, you might also try some masking tape
for a low-tech approach. I'm making some little odd-angle mitered
boxes and masking tape does a pretty good job.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:48:50 -0500, Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
>groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
>bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
>surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
>vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
>I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
>to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
>advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
>Thanx
>Jim
Thanks for all the input folks. I'm not sure which technique I'll use
yet, but at least now I'm not just wandering aimlessly around the shop
scratching my head.
Thanks again
Jim
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:48:50 -0500, Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
>groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
>bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
>surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
>vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
>I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
>to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
>advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
>Thanx
>Jim
Ehvee8or wrote:
> That, and they also tend to sleep where they darn well please. This
> project strikes me as an immense (well, not too immense) waste of
> effort, but SWMBO wanted it, so....
I understand completely.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
And if you do decide to go with some fancy-assed thing, something like a web
clamp should do what you want.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=31160&category=1,43838,47843&abspage=1&ccurrency=1&SID=
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
> > >I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> > >to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> > >advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
> You might try elastic bands, surgical tube, inner tube, bungee cords
> etc. or a Spanish windlass. Something you probably have on hand and
> will work as well as any fancy-assed thing you can buy.
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:48:50 -0500, Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
>to clamp it to hold the miters tight.
Clamping it is easy, it's often getting it into place that's tricky.
Try cutting two rectangles of plywood, exact fits for the top and
bottom apertures. Once you've assembled it, use your favourite sort
of string or tape to hold it in place. Latex rubber surgical tubing is
a good self-gripping binder, so long as it's fresh (it fails in
sunlight) and you don't leave it in a cold shed overnight (thermal
cycles undo it).
I'm tooling up to make small compound tapered boxes (cremation
caskets). A part of this is the clamping jig - two rectangles of MDF,
spaced apart and wrapped with a strips of 3mm polythene foam. The foam
is just enough "squish" to let me clamp tightly onto the glued mitres.
--
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Ehvee8or wrote:
> Uhhhh, yeah, I discovered that little fly in the ointment when I tried
> a dry fit of the pieces. Ended up recutting the groove at the correct
> angle. It's not quite as neat as I had hoped, but I'm hoping the cat
> won't notice. :->
LOL! Cats are picky buggers. It will probably turn its nose up at you
until you re-do it at the proper angle, and re-make the project out of
solid walnut burl next time too.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 09:48:50 -0500, Ehvee8or <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
>groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
>bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
>surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
>vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
>I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
>to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
>advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
>Thanx
>Jim
Sometimes I'll use twine or light nylon rope to clamp up an irregular
piece and use a tourniquet (6" stick) to tighten it up. It's amazing
how well this technique works for cheap. A web clamp works too, but
I often find myself fussing too much with those web clamps.
Ehvee8or <[email protected]> writes:
> I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
> I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> advice, guidance, and assistance.
If you can live with small dents in the boards you could use spring
miter clamps, like
http://www.ulmia.de/English/Ulmia-Schreinerkluepfel_1.htm
or http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=3860&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1028%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CVises%20%26%20Clamps&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D4032%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CCorner%20Clamps&Gift=False&mscssid=00B270E6FA8B41BA82DA108FDC88A368
These clamps are easy to use, great for picture frames and should work
well also for your purpose.
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Tape, surgical tubing, rubber bands, strap clamps, jigs.
--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Ehvee8or" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm building a bed for the family feline. It's basically a box with a
> groove/dado cut around the inside perimeter about an inch from the
> bottom to accept a piece of plywood to serve as the actual sleep
> surface. All four sides of the box are angled outward 15 degrees from
> vertical, with miters at the corners.
>
> I'm ready to glue it up, but for the life of me I can't figure out how
> to clamp it to hold the miters tight. I humbly request your collective
> advice, guidance, and assistance.
>
> Thanx
> Jim
>