Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
for 50 bucks less.
I now see brand names on tools that I never would have associated with
tools. Like Kawasaki. What's next? A PeptoBismal jackhammer?
Unless woodie wagons are coming back, I see no use for a Snap-On
nailer in a frickin' garage.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
>>>> reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
>>>> On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
>>>> nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
>>>> for 50 bucks less.
>>>> I now see brand names on tools that I never would have associated with
>>>> tools. Like Kawasaki. What's next? A PeptoBismal jackhammer?
>>>> Unless woodie wagons are coming back, I see no use for a Snap-On
>>>> nailer in a frickin' garage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He never reviews a bad tool either. Notice that?
>>
>>
>> Actually he does review bad tools... he just does not know it. One of
>> the angle finders he reviewed, one that I own, is terrible in the respect
>> that in certain positions the display is hidden under the piviting top
>> arm. I replaced that angle finder with one with a top display.
>>
>
> So, did he note that in the review?
I did not read the whole thing but got the idea that he was impressed.
On Feb 6, 4:01=A0pm, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:45:37 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
> >reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
> >On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
> >nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
> >for 50 bucks less.
>
> You maybe right about the quality of it considering that it's built in
> Taiwan, but I'd tend to give Snap-On the benefit of the doubt.
>
I agree. But when SnapOn inroduced some products that they themselves
did not manufacture, they labeled them BluePoint.
The production manager at the SnapOn Vaughn/Concord, Ontario
manufacturing plant told me they wanted to keep a little distance from
'outside' suppliers. In all fairness, that was 30 years ago and
policies change. (I knew him because he chrome-plated some Borrani
wire wheels for me.)
One thing is for sure, they were head and shoulders above whoever was
second in that business. Guys in white cover-alls in a plating plant?
Really? <G>
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:54:48 -0800, the infamous "Nonny"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:45:37 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with
>>>>the
>>>>reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way
>>>>that Snap-
>>>>On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a
>>>>Xinyungtang
>>>>nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock
>>>>available
>>>>for 50 bucks less.
>>>
>>> You maybe right about the quality of it considering that it's
>>> built in
>>> Taiwan, but I'd tend to give Snap-On the benefit of the doubt.
>>>
>>> I own a few Snap-On wrenches and stuff and they've proven
>>> themselves
>>> over and over for more than 30 years. If even a little of
>>> Snap-On's
>>> quality control has extended to the construction of this brad
>>> nailer,
>>> then I'd be likely to trust the nailer until I found out
>>> otherwise.
>>
>>
>> Have to agree, Snap-On. if nothing else depends on it's
>> reputation and I would be inclined to thnk the stores on wheels
>> will be going after the construction market also. They are not
>> going to be wanting to drive up to a crew of pissed workers.
>>
>
>They have an excellent reputation in automotive tools, and my
>suspicion is that they're working to enter the
>woodworking/carpentry field as well. With that in mind, my guess
>is that they would be careful to avoid mistakes or bad design in
>newly introduced tools. They also stand behind what they sell.
>
>FWIW, in the electrical trade, the gold standard for hand tools is
>Klein. When I was an early teenager, I began wiring doing odd
>jobs like adding a light in a basement and soon worked myself up
>to new homes. When I got my first real paycheck, I used it to buy
>some Klein tools: dikes, linesmen pliers and needle nose pliers,
>along with the drive-on grips. I had them for almost 45 years of
>use, both in wiring and later in my shop. When they were lost in
>a fire, they were still very serviceable and if you could find an
>area of the cutting surface without a notch out of it <grin>, you
>could cut a hair with what was left.
I got a free small pair of Klein dikes after attending a packaging
show at SME/Westec years ago. I still have them, love them, and don't
use them on rough stuff. Some 11" extended HF dikes are for that.
Klein is good stuff, that's for sure.
I'd be willing to bet that most of the new tools by all these large
names have been made in China, though. I'll bet Snap-On has a few
seppuku (you gaijin may call it "hara-kari") agreements with their
Chinese counterparts regarding quality. If they screw up, they slice
and dice themselves.
--
We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves
after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us.
-- Marcel Proust
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:45:37 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
>reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
>On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
>nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
>for 50 bucks less.
You maybe right about the quality of it considering that it's built in
Taiwan, but I'd tend to give Snap-On the benefit of the doubt.
I own a few Snap-On wrenches and stuff and they've proven themselves
over and over for more than 30 years. If even a little of Snap-On's
quality control has extended to the construction of this brad nailer,
then I'd be likely to trust the nailer until I found out otherwise.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:45:37 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
>>reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
>>On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
>>nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
>>for 50 bucks less.
>
> You maybe right about the quality of it considering that it's built in
> Taiwan, but I'd tend to give Snap-On the benefit of the doubt.
>
> I own a few Snap-On wrenches and stuff and they've proven themselves
> over and over for more than 30 years. If even a little of Snap-On's
> quality control has extended to the construction of this brad nailer,
> then I'd be likely to trust the nailer until I found out otherwise.
Have to agree, Snap-On. if nothing else depends on it's reputation and I
would be inclined to thnk the stores on wheels will be going after the
construction market also. They are not going to be wanting to drive up to a
crew of pissed workers.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:45:37 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with
>>>the
>>>reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way
>>>that Snap-
>>>On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a
>>>Xinyungtang
>>>nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock
>>>available
>>>for 50 bucks less.
>>
>> You maybe right about the quality of it considering that it's
>> built in
>> Taiwan, but I'd tend to give Snap-On the benefit of the doubt.
>>
>> I own a few Snap-On wrenches and stuff and they've proven
>> themselves
>> over and over for more than 30 years. If even a little of
>> Snap-On's
>> quality control has extended to the construction of this brad
>> nailer,
>> then I'd be likely to trust the nailer until I found out
>> otherwise.
>
>
> Have to agree, Snap-On. if nothing else depends on it's
> reputation and I would be inclined to thnk the stores on wheels
> will be going after the construction market also. They are not
> going to be wanting to drive up to a crew of pissed workers.
>
They have an excellent reputation in automotive tools, and my
suspicion is that they're working to enter the
woodworking/carpentry field as well. With that in mind, my guess
is that they would be careful to avoid mistakes or bad design in
newly introduced tools. They also stand behind what they sell.
FWIW, in the electrical trade, the gold standard for hand tools is
Klein. When I was an early teenager, I began wiring doing odd
jobs like adding a light in a basement and soon worked myself up
to new homes. When I got my first real paycheck, I used it to buy
some Klein tools: dikes, linesmen pliers and needle nose pliers,
along with the drive-on grips. I had them for almost 45 years of
use, both in wiring and later in my shop. When they were lost in
a fire, they were still very serviceable and if you could find an
area of the cutting surface without a notch out of it <grin>, you
could cut a hair with what was left.
--
Nonny
ELOQUIDIOT (n) A highly educated, sophisticated,
and articulate person who has absolutely no clue
concerning what they are talking about.
The person is typically a media commentator or politician.
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
>> reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
>> On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
>> nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
>> for 50 bucks less.
>> I now see brand names on tools that I never would have associated with
>> tools. Like Kawasaki. What's next? A PeptoBismal jackhammer?
>> Unless woodie wagons are coming back, I see no use for a Snap-On
>> nailer in a frickin' garage.
>>
>
>
> He never reviews a bad tool either. Notice that?
Actually he does review bad tools... he just does not know it. One of the
angle finders he reviewed, one that I own, is terrible in the respect that
in certain positions the display is hidden under the piviting top arm. I
replaced that angle finder with one with a top display.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
>>> reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
>>> On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
>>> nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
>>> for 50 bucks less.
>>> I now see brand names on tools that I never would have associated with
>>> tools. Like Kawasaki. What's next? A PeptoBismal jackhammer?
>>> Unless woodie wagons are coming back, I see no use for a Snap-On
>>> nailer in a frickin' garage.
>>>
>>
>>
>> He never reviews a bad tool either. Notice that?
>
>
> Actually he does review bad tools... he just does not know it. One of the
> angle finders he reviewed, one that I own, is terrible in the respect that
> in certain positions the display is hidden under the piviting top arm. I
> replaced that angle finder with one with a top display.
>
So, did he note that in the review?
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Nothing against Dean, I think he's doing a wonderful job with the
> reviews. But... isn't it a bit obvious that there is no way that Snap-
> On is doing anything other than sticking their name on a Xinyungtang
> nailer? It may be a bit better than some sintered schlock available
> for 50 bucks less.
> I now see brand names on tools that I never would have associated with
> tools. Like Kawasaki. What's next? A PeptoBismal jackhammer?
> Unless woodie wagons are coming back, I see no use for a Snap-On
> nailer in a frickin' garage.
>
He never reviews a bad tool either. Notice that?