OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago about
scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around, internet
places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place in Buffalo,
they want $1.00 each. Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
Got it hooked up, will try some slides/negatives on Thur. and see how they
turn out & report.
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Norman D. Crow wrote:
> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago about
> scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around, internet
> places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place in Buffalo,
> they want $1.00 each.
Those rates are not unreasonable. Depending on the hardware/resolution
it can take over a minute per image.
> Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
Just a point--for 35mm negs you need some special software. Each brand
of film (and each sensitivity of film with a brand) has a slightly
different orange cast, and your software needs to be able to deal with
this by either 1) having custom filters for each brand, or 2) being
"intelligent" about the conversion.
Option 2 will invariably make mistakes, so decent software of that type
will let you fine-tune the colour manually.
Chris
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> "Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Norman D. Crow wrote:
> >> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago
> >> about scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around,
> >> internet places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place
> >> in Buffalo, they want $1.00 each.
> >
> > Those rates are not unreasonable. Depending on the hardware/resolution it
> > can take over a minute per image.
> >
> > > Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
> >> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
> >> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
> >
> > Just a point--for 35mm negs you need some special software. Each brand of
> > film (and each sensitivity of film with a brand) has a slightly different
> > orange cast, and your software needs to be able to deal with this by
> > either 1) having custom filters for each brand, or 2) being "intelligent"
> > about the conversion.
> >
> > Option 2 will invariably make mistakes, so decent software of that type
> > will let you fine-tune the colour manually.
> >
>
> I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
> "preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play with the
> resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
Groggins wrote:-
Norm- SWBO and I have converted about 1500 slides using her HP3670
scanner which is similar to yours. She scanned. I edited, using
"Irfanview", and "photofiltre" (both freeware-See Pricelessware.org) to
adjust colours, size, contrast, sharpen, etc- nominal learning curve for
each program. There is also DCE Enhancer which is a quick useful tool for
nominally required changes.
Our slides were all those that were salvageable out of perhaps 10000
which had resided in boxes, stored in basements, over at least 3
residence changes and 20 years. Many had just faded out due to our poor
storage practises. Took a lot of work but since they cover a big chunk of
our 2 son's youth it was worth the effort. Good luck!
In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Did get a few scanned today. I'll post some on ABPW. These slides are nearly
> 50yr. old, stored in a metal slide box. They seem to have lost a little bit
> of the brightness, so may play with the colors/brightness/contrast a little.
> All in all I'm pleased.
I'd like to see them, Nahmie.
djb
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In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I posted three of them on ABPW Dave. Should have split them up, as it made a
> 900KB message, but they are there. Or I could shoot them straight to you if
> you like.
I just replied on abpw...
Lots of info in the scans, but the Royal Guard pic is showing some
nasty horizontal scan line artifacts, and you need to make sure you're
cleaning the dust off the slides. It's easier than touching them up
after.
I did some very basic correction in Photoshop and beside the issues
above they look great, Norm. The color cast is easily dealt with, at
least in PShop...
If you want me to toss them back at you post-tweak, let me know.
djb
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Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 11:19pm [email protected] (Norman=A0D.=A0Crow) doth
say:
OK, there was some talk here <snip>
Yep. I believe I started that, finding my Nam slides still in
decent shape, and wanting prints. Turned out I DO have a slide copier.
But, apparently one, or both, of my two sons got ahold of it at some
time or other. Was missing three screws - I found replacements - but,
can't find the adapter, for connecting to the camera. Been so long
since I used it, can't recall if it connects direct to the camera, or to
the lens. Either way, can't connect it. It was with other camera
equipment, but didn't find a camera bag. Don't know if I just haven't
found that, and the adapter is in it, or if both are gone forever. I've
got some other camera stuff I can'f find either. Ah, the joys of having
offspring. Anyone know if it connects to the lens, or the camera?
JOAT
You only need two tools: WD-40, and duct tape. If it doesn't move and
it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use the tape.
In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It's an ongoing learning
> process for me, but unless they are really bad, I'm just happy to be able to
> preserve them.
Once you've got them scanned, even seriously deteriorated images can be
repaired/restored.
Have fun with the project!
djb
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Norman D. Crow wrote:
> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago about
> scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around, internet
> places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place in Buffalo,
> they want $1.00 each. Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
>
> Got it hooked up, will try some slides/negatives on Thur. and see how they
> turn out & report.
>
Or you could just make a slide copier and use your
camera--best would be at least a 5 meg and 6 meg
would be better. And you could make the whole
thing out of wood, easier if you use flexible
black material between the camera/camera lens and
the slide holder.
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago
> about scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around,
> internet places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one
> place in Buffalo, they want $1.00 each. Was just sitting here reading
> up on our HP3970 flatbed scanner(had it a while, never installed yet)
> and it has the back-lighting and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a
> time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
>
> Got it hooked up, will try some slides/negatives on Thur. and see how
> they turn out & report.
>
If it does not work well, at a buck per slide you could by a slide specific
scanner.
"Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Norman D. Crow wrote:
>> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago
>> about scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around,
>> internet places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place
>> in Buffalo, they want $1.00 each.
>
> Those rates are not unreasonable. Depending on the hardware/resolution it
> can take over a minute per image.
>
> > Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
>> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
>> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
>
> Just a point--for 35mm negs you need some special software. Each brand of
> film (and each sensitivity of film with a brand) has a slightly different
> orange cast, and your software needs to be able to deal with this by
> either 1) having custom filters for each brand, or 2) being "intelligent"
> about the conversion.
>
> Option 2 will invariably make mistakes, so decent software of that type
> will let you fine-tune the colour manually.
>
I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
"preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play with the
resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
--
Nahmie
Stupidity is not considered a handicap, park elsewhere.
If you are not using XP, check e-bay for a Polaroid Sprintscan 35+. It will
give you 2700DPI resolution and 24 bit colour. Combined with the Polacolor
software and a SCSI card it makes scanning a snap. You should be able to
pick one up for ~$75.
Oh yes, it handles 35mm slides and negatives. No prints, no 120 fmt, but it
will cope with 127 super slides.
George Anderson
Montreal Canada
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago
about
> scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around, internet
> places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one place in
Buffalo,
> they want $1.00 each. Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970
flatbed
> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the back-lighting
> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm negatives.
>
> Got it hooked up, will try some slides/negatives on Thur. and see how they
> turn out & report.
>
> --
> Nahmie
> Stupidity is not considered a handicap, park elsewhere.
>
>
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Norman D. Crow wrote:
>>> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little bit ago
>>> about scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking around,
>>> internet places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called one
>>> place in Buffalo, they want $1.00 each.
>>
>> Those rates are not unreasonable. Depending on the hardware/resolution
>> it can take over a minute per image.
>>
>> > Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
>>> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the
>>> back-lighting and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm
>>> negatives.
>>
>> Just a point--for 35mm negs you need some special software. Each brand
>> of film (and each sensitivity of film with a brand) has a slightly
>> different orange cast, and your software needs to be able to deal with
>> this by either 1) having custom filters for each brand, or 2) being
>> "intelligent" about the conversion.
>>
>> Option 2 will invariably make mistakes, so decent software of that type
>> will let you fine-tune the colour manually.
>>
>
> I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
> "preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play with the
> resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
>
Did get a few scanned today. I'll post some on ABPW. These slides are nearly
50yr. old, stored in a metal slide box. They seem to have lost a little bit
of the brightness, so may play with the colors/brightness/contrast a little.
All in all I'm pleased.
--
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The only road to success is always under construction.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:260120062154588226%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Did get a few scanned today. I'll post some on ABPW. These slides are
>> nearly
>> 50yr. old, stored in a metal slide box. They seem to have lost a little
>> bit
>> of the brightness, so may play with the colors/brightness/contrast a
>> little.
>> All in all I'm pleased.
>
> I'd like to see them, Nahmie.
>
I posted three of them on ABPW Dave. Should have split them up, as it made a
900KB message, but they are there. Or I could shoot them straight to you if
you like.
--
Nahmie
The only road to success is always under construction.
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:23:58 -0500, "Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ... snip
>>>
>>> I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
>>> "preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play with
>>> the
>>> resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
>>>
>>
>>Did get a few scanned today. I'll post some on ABPW. These slides are
>>nearly
>>50yr. old, stored in a metal slide box. They seem to have lost a little
>>bit
>>of the brightness, so may play with the colors/brightness/contrast a
>>little.
>>All in all I'm pleased.
>
> Be interested in seeing the results. You are satisfied with the
> resolution and pixel density you are getting?
>
>
Yes, I'm pretty happy. As I said, they seem to have dimmed a little, but my
primary photo editor is Microsoft Picture It. I can open them in that after
scanning & hit "Auto levels fix",it brightens them right up. The resolution
seems fine to me, and I'm just using the default pixel density from the
scanner software, haven't really played around with it yet.
--
Nahmie
The only road to success is always under construction.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:260120062238093691%dave***@balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, Norman D. Crow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I posted three of them on ABPW Dave. Should have split them up, as it
>> made a
>> 900KB message, but they are there. Or I could shoot them straight to you
>> if
>> you like.
>
> I just replied on abpw...
>
> Lots of info in the scans, but the Royal Guard pic is showing some
> nasty horizontal scan line artifacts, and you need to make sure you're
> cleaning the dust off the slides. It's easier than touching them up
> after.
>
> I did some very basic correction in Photoshop and beside the issues
> above they look great, Norm. The color cast is easily dealt with, at
> least in PShop...
>
> If you want me to toss them back at you post-tweak, let me know.
Thanks anyway, Dave, but I've already deleted them and will start over. As I
replied to Mark, the Auto levels fix in Microsoft Picture It seems to
brighten them up nicely. I was seeing some dust in them too, and still
learning where to position the slide in the adapter and to get the dust out.
I was seeing some "white spots" in some of them which I assume is some
deterioration in the slide, rather than dust. It's an ongoing learning
process for me, but unless they are really bad, I'm just happy to be able to
preserve them. There's a lot of history in them. If I remember correctly,
they were taken with a Kodak Retina 3C, which back in the late '50s was a
pretty respectable camera. Don't even know where it is now, gave up on it
after 20yr or so when the shutter started getting gummy and wouldn't
maintain speed, generally over-exposing. Should have sent it to a good shop
for cleanup, but it wasn't really capable of handling the newer higher speed
film, so just gave up and moved on.
--
Nahmie
The only road to success is always under construction.
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Chris Friesen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Norman D. Crow wrote:
> >> OK, there was some talk here(or was it on ABPW?) just a little
bit ago
> >> about scanning old slides to preserve them, and in checking
around,
> >> internet places seem to run about $.35 and up PER slide. Called
one place
> >> in Buffalo, they want $1.00 each.
> >
> > Those rates are not unreasonable. Depending on the
hardware/resolution it
> > can take over a minute per image.
> >
> > > Was just sitting here reading up on our HP3970 flatbed
> >> scanner(had it a while, never installed yet) and it has the
back-lighting
> >> and a holder to scan (1) 35mm slide @ a time, or (2) 35mm
negatives.
> >
> > Just a point--for 35mm negs you need some special software. Each
brand of
> > film (and each sensitivity of film with a brand) has a slightly
different
> > orange cast, and your software needs to be able to deal with this
by
> > either 1) having custom filters for each brand, or 2) being
"intelligent"
> > about the conversion.
> >
> > Option 2 will invariably make mistakes, so decent software of that
type
> > will let you fine-tune the colour manually.
> >
>
> I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
> "preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play
with the
> resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
>
Norman,
I've scanned several hundred 35mm slides using a similar, HP5370C
scanner. (the HP5370 has a masking piece for four slides at a time,
but probably uses the same backlight that yours has.) It worked well,
but the scanner software didn't help much with faded color of aged
slides. I found the best approach was to set the scanner software to
max resolution (which makes a HUGE file size), then use Paintshop Pro
to clean the images up a bit. (I'm familiar with Paintshop, but you
could probably use any good graphic editor.)
Chris is correct, it takes a LONG time to scan slides, especially if
you're using the high resolution settings. My scanner can take about
4-5 minutes to scan the bed, when it's set to max resolution. Then,
it seemed a big waste of time, when you're only looking to scan less
than 10 percent of the scanner bed, just to get images of four slides.
But, I'm happy to have the files now - glad I spent the time to go
through them. I now have some nice pictures that my parents made,
when I could only see them before with a projector or slide viewer.
I was surprised at how I could manipulate the images after getting the
initial file from the scanner. Some of them came out really nice,
even the color was improved. Some of my slides are over 40 years old,
and Paintshop was able to correct the color for most, plus get rid of
some dirt specs and graininess. (sp?)
Good luck with it,
John Sellers
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:23:58 -0500, "Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
... snip
>>
>> I'll have to play with it to see. Looks like the operation does the
>> "preview" scan, then lets you select the final scan area and play with the
>> resolution, color comp., etc. before committing it to disk.
>>
>
>Did get a few scanned today. I'll post some on ABPW. These slides are nearly
>50yr. old, stored in a metal slide box. They seem to have lost a little bit
>of the brightness, so may play with the colors/brightness/contrast a little.
>All in all I'm pleased.
Be interested in seeing the results. You are satisfied with the
resolution and pixel density you are getting?
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