On 5/29/2012 11:01 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:46:58 -0400, Dave wrote:
>
>> Work quite nicely on what? ~ a Domino made mortise, on something else or
>> do you have (and actually use) one of these mortise mills?
>
> Something else - a router and a home made mortising jig.
>
Agreed! But the Jessem is probably a bit more portable in a pinch.
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:03 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>>
>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>>
>>
>> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
>> apparently does not do bevels.
>
>At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
Indeed! And, LOOK! They even had the good sense to keep the price
low enough for everyday people to be able to buy one.
Kudos to JessEm for a cool tool and a good deal. Value!
--
When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
-- Stephanie Barron
(Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)
On 5/28/2012 11:23 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 11:11 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:14:03 -0400, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely been
>>> ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that it's not
>>> as useful as the video seems to imply.
>>
>> Woodcraft carried it for a while but it apparently did not sell. As it
>> was made by Jessem, I doubt there was any quality issue. Your thought
>> that it really wasn't that useful is probably correct.
>
> I can understand why it didn't sell, but for the sale price it could fit
> in the category of those tools that you don't use often, but out on a
> job site somewhere and you absolutely need what it does, it could pay
> for itself.
Exactly! I think it will do what it has to do but you would not want to
be using it all the time for the purpose it was intended.
On 5/28/2012 5:54 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:03 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>>>
>>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
>>> apparently does not do bevels.
>>
>> At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
>
> Indeed! And, LOOK! They even had the good sense to keep the price
> low enough for everyday people to be able to buy one.
>
> Kudos to JessEm for a cool tool and a good deal. Value!
>
> --
> When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
> -- Stephanie Barron
> (Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)
I have a feeling that it is going to be just as cool as the old PC
detail sander. Good idea, bad implementation. I saw a few questionable
features on the Jesssem tool.
On 5/28/2012 9:14 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:40:19 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>
> The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely
> been ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that
> it's not as useful as the video seems to imply.
I suspect it may be a bit too much trouble and time consuming.
On 5/28/2012 8:49 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>>
>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
>> apparently does not do bevels.
>
> At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
>
I wonder if a Festool drill would work??? ;~)
On Mon, 28 May 2012 16:11:44 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
>Woodcraft carried it for a while but it apparently did not sell. As it
>was made by Jessem, I doubt there was any quality issue. Your thought
>that it really wasn't that useful is probably correct.
I would also suggest that the drill driven bit, (markedly slowed than
a router bit might be driven) would try to wander and not leave as
smooth a mortise as one would desire.
>OTOH, the loose tenons they sell for it work quite nicely. I bought a
>couple of boxes while Woodcraft had them.
Work quite nicely on what? ~ a Domino made mortise, on something else
or do you have (and actually use) one of these mortise mills?
But, I do agree with Swingman's viewpoint that it might be a
convenient tool to use when nothing else is on hand available to use.
On 5/28/2012 11:11 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:14:03 -0400, Dave wrote:
>
>> The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely been
>> ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that it's not
>> as useful as the video seems to imply.
>
> Woodcraft carried it for a while but it apparently did not sell. As it
> was made by Jessem, I doubt there was any quality issue. Your thought
> that it really wasn't that useful is probably correct.
I can understand why it didn't sell, but for the sale price it could fit
in the category of those tools that you don't use often, but out on a
job site somewhere and you absolutely need what it does, it could pay
for itself.
My old Fein Multi-tool is in that category for what I do.
It looks like you may be able to place and drill accurate dowel holes
with it also?
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:23:06 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/28/2012 11:11 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:14:03 -0400, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely been
>>> ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that it's not
>>> as useful as the video seems to imply.
>>
>> Woodcraft carried it for a while but it apparently did not sell. As it
>> was made by Jessem, I doubt there was any quality issue. Your thought
>> that it really wasn't that useful is probably correct.
>
>I can understand why it didn't sell, but for the sale price it could fit
>in the category of those tools that you don't use often, but out on a
>job site somewhere and you absolutely need what it does, it could pay
>for itself.
>
>My old Fein Multi-tool is in that category for what I do.
>
>It looks like you may be able to place and drill accurate dowel holes
>with it also?
No regrets at all on my Fein multi tool. It saved my ass many times.
Although recently let other people do work for me had they had a
Ryobi cordless that got the job done, but by sure weight I have no
regrets on owning the tool.
Mike M
On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:14:03 -0400, Dave wrote:
> The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely been
> ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that it's not
> as useful as the video seems to imply.
Woodcraft carried it for a while but it apparently did not sell. As it
was made by Jessem, I doubt there was any quality issue. Your thought
that it really wasn't that useful is probably correct.
OTOH, the loose tenons they sell for it work quite nicely. I bought a
couple of boxes while Woodcraft had them.
--
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On 5/29/12 11:33 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 5/29/2012 11:01 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 19:46:58 -0400, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Work quite nicely on what? ~ a Domino made mortise, on something else or
>>> do you have (and actually use) one of these mortise mills?
>>
>> Something else - a router and a home made mortising jig.
>>
>
> Agreed! But the Jessem is probably a bit more portable in a pinch.
For the price, I think it's a great quality and very useful tool to have
with you for when you need a half dozen or so mortises or if you need a
bunch more but are under no time restraints. It's certainly not the tool
for production work or deadlines.
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On 5/28/12 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>
> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>
>
> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
> apparently does not do bevels.
60 bucks at Woodcraft
http://www.woodcraft.com/Family/2080014/2080014.aspx
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-MIKE-
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--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
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[email protected]
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On 5/29/2012 5:14 AM, Leon wrote:
> I have a feeling that it is going to be just as cool as the old PC
> detail sander. Good idea, bad implementation. I saw a few questionable
> features on the Jesssem tool.
Here is a couple of similar but better jigs..
http://www.mortisepal.com/
or
http://www.amazon.com/Leigh-Super-Frame-Mortise-Tenon/dp/B003E62564
or for the poor among us:
http://www.shopnotes.com/files/issues/090/plunge-router-mortising-jig.pdf
and there is one more that does it all with a drill that I bought at
a WW show a few years back and can't remember the name...
On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>
> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>
>
> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
> apparently does not do bevels.
At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
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On 5/29/2012 9:05 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:14:01 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/28/2012 5:54 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:03 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
>>>>> apparently does not do bevels.
>>>>
>>>> At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
>>>
>>> Indeed! And, LOOK! They even had the good sense to keep the price
>>> low enough for everyday people to be able to buy one.
>>>
>>> Kudos to JessEm for a cool tool and a good deal. Value!
>>>
>>
>> I have a feeling that it is going to be just as cool as the old PC
>> detail sander. Good idea, bad implementation. I saw a few questionable
>> features on the Jesssem tool.
>
> Fess up, Leon. You only disdain the JessEm because:
>
> 1) it isn't produced by Festool
> and
> 2) it doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your firstborn,
>
> right? You're funny that way. ;)
>
No, LOL I think you pretty much see the problem/problems also as
indicated by your following statement. That lever pivoting on it's
elongated hole would be a problem area should any wear take place. Get
any slop in that spot and the bit may not cut a hole wide enough to
accept the width of the tennon.
> As to implementation, I just hope they have an adjustable slide so you
> can take out the slack, preventing over-tall holes which would allow
> loose tenons.
>
> --
> When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
> -- Stephanie Barron
> (Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:40:19 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
The mortise mill has been on the market for awhile now and largely
been ignored by the woodworking community. That suggest to me that
it's not as useful as the video seems to imply.
On Tue, 29 May 2012 07:14:01 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 5/28/2012 5:54 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:49:03 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>>>> If you are interested in a Festool Domino and don't have one,
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jessemdirect.com/Pocket_Mortise_Mill_p/08200.htm?et_mid=557831&rid=3213268
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll pass, appears to be one size and slower than a router or Domino and
>>>> apparently does not do bevels.
>>>
>>> At least they have the good sense to use a Makita drill. ;)
>>
>> Indeed! And, LOOK! They even had the good sense to keep the price
>> low enough for everyday people to be able to buy one.
>>
>> Kudos to JessEm for a cool tool and a good deal. Value!
>>
>
>I have a feeling that it is going to be just as cool as the old PC
>detail sander. Good idea, bad implementation. I saw a few questionable
>features on the Jesssem tool.
Fess up, Leon. You only disdain the JessEm because:
1) it isn't produced by Festool
and
2) it doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your firstborn,
right? You're funny that way. ;)
As to implementation, I just hope they have an adjustable slide so you
can take out the slack, preventing over-tall holes which would allow
loose tenons.
--
When a quiet man is moved to passion, it seems the very earth will shake.
-- Stephanie Barron
(Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)