An

"AArDvarK"

25/04/2004 7:38 AM

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Hey everyone, thanks to all who kindly replied about
wood hardnesses, it was all very enlightening, I found
it all very useful.

Joinery:

And now I am curious about chisels. After many days
of researching chisel products I figure I should buy
as good a quaklity as possible for as cheap as possible,
not the mind of the vastly experienced, but I found
"Narex" brand chisels made in Slovakia, for very low
prices. This bevel-edge-only group seems to be
properly made with beech handles and heavy steal
rings at the tops and bottoms of the handles. But the
ferrules are made of Chromoly steel and I need to
know if this is a viable quality for the learning stage
in my own practice, working out of a book (for which
I need a suggestion) and on a small work station
using small, 1/4" thich boards. I also need a wood
suggestion for practice too.

The Crown brand is nicely priced definitely but I do
not like the handle construction, no metal rings and
what they do show is a small brass colored ring that
looks "thin", and rounded tops with no metal cap.

Henry Taylor chisels are acceptably priced if a bit
too high but properly made mortice chisels.

Are there any U.S. brands that are decently priced and
made "properly", other than plastic handles? Or any
acceptable quality please.

Quote for the Narex brand at the seller's site:
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp

"These Czech-made bevel edged chisels are a fine value.
Stained beech handles feature well seated heavy steel
ferrules to withstand vigorous mallet work; bolstered
tangs are also ferruled for durability. The blades are
excellent: fine-grained, nicely tempered chrome-moly
steel that takes and holds a beautiful edge without
brittleness. Don't let the price set your expectations
too low--these chisels are inexpensive because of the
strong dollar, not because they're cheap. Like most edge
tools, they'll need sharpening before use; and like most
chisels, they'll feel better and work better after you've
gentled their long edges and flattened their backs. The
set is presented in a fitted, felt-lined wooden box with c
lasp. Sizes include 6mm (1/4"), 10mm (3/8"), 12mm
(1/2"), 16mm (5/8"), 20mm (3/4") & 25mm (1") sizes.
Inch equivalents are approximate."

Thanks all,

Alex

"Luminous beings are we, not this "crude matter".
--Yoda


This topic has 7 replies

JD

"James D. Kountz"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

25/04/2004 8:18 PM

Try findind some old stanley 50 series chisels if you can. Or 750 as far as
that goes. The 50's are more of a butt chisel. The everlasting series were
great tools and can still be had. Ive found them in good user condition
anywhere from $15-50 a piece. Worth every penny plus they're antique so you
get a real warm fuzzy feeling when using them! Old Millers Falls and Buck
chisels were good too but stay away from the modern "Buck Bro's" chisels,
they dont even open paint cans well.

Jim


"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Hey everyone, thanks to all who kindly replied about
> wood hardnesses, it was all very enlightening, I found
> it all very useful.
>
> Joinery:
>
> And now I am curious about chisels. After many days
> of researching chisel products I figure I should buy
> as good a quaklity as possible for as cheap as possible,
> not the mind of the vastly experienced, but I found
> "Narex" brand chisels made in Slovakia, for very low
> prices. This bevel-edge-only group seems to be
> properly made with beech handles and heavy steal
> rings at the tops and bottoms of the handles. But the
> ferrules are made of Chromoly steel and I need to
> know if this is a viable quality for the learning stage
> in my own practice, working out of a book (for which
> I need a suggestion) and on a small work station
> using small, 1/4" thich boards. I also need a wood
> suggestion for practice too.
>
> The Crown brand is nicely priced definitely but I do
> not like the handle construction, no metal rings and
> what they do show is a small brass colored ring that
> looks "thin", and rounded tops with no metal cap.
>
> Henry Taylor chisels are acceptably priced if a bit
> too high but properly made mortice chisels.
>
> Are there any U.S. brands that are decently priced and
> made "properly", other than plastic handles? Or any
> acceptable quality please.
>
> Quote for the Narex brand at the seller's site:
> http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp
>
> "These Czech-made bevel edged chisels are a fine value.
> Stained beech handles feature well seated heavy steel
> ferrules to withstand vigorous mallet work; bolstered
> tangs are also ferruled for durability. The blades are
> excellent: fine-grained, nicely tempered chrome-moly
> steel that takes and holds a beautiful edge without
> brittleness. Don't let the price set your expectations
> too low--these chisels are inexpensive because of the
> strong dollar, not because they're cheap. Like most edge
> tools, they'll need sharpening before use; and like most
> chisels, they'll feel better and work better after you've
> gentled their long edges and flattened their backs. The
> set is presented in a fitted, felt-lined wooden box with c
> lasp. Sizes include 6mm (1/4"), 10mm (3/8"), 12mm
> (1/2"), 16mm (5/8"), 20mm (3/4") & 25mm (1") sizes.
> Inch equivalents are approximate."
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Alex
>
> "Luminous beings are we, not this "crude matter".
> --Yoda
>
>

An

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

26/04/2004 11:09 AM


> Try findind some old stanley 50 series chisels if you can. Or 750 as far as
> that goes. The 50's are more of a butt chisel. The everlasting series were
> great tools and can still be had. Ive found them in good user condition
> anywhere from $15-50 a piece. Worth every penny plus they're antique so you
> get a real warm fuzzy feeling when using them! Old Millers Falls and Buck
> chisels were good too but stay away from the modern "Buck Bro's" chisels,
> they dont even open paint cans well.
>
> Jim

Okay thanks, I've got my eye on a set of 7 750's
1/8", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" $85.00.
All beautiful condition, is that a good price?

Alex

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

25/04/2004 8:48 PM

"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote :

> Hey everyone, thanks to all who kindly replied about
> wood hardnesses, it was all very enlightening, I found
> it all very useful.
>
> Joinery:
>
> And now I am curious about chisels. After many days
> of researching chisel products I figure I should buy
> as good a quaklity as possible for as cheap as possible,
...

I use Two Cherries chisels. I have heard that Hirsch chisels are from
the same factory, and can be had at slightly lower prices (Lee Valley
is a good source). For mortising, I have an 8mm Hirsch -- the Hirsch
mortising chisels are a little hard to find (got mine at Highland
Hardware).

I have an old Buck Bros chisel that I use for scraping wet glue, too.
:-P

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

26/04/2004 8:53 PM

"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Tacjc.6$k24.3@fed1read01>...
> > I use Two Cherries chisels. I have heard that Hirsch chisels are from
> > the same factory, and can be had at slightly lower prices (Lee Valley
> > is a good source). For mortising, I have an 8mm Hirsch -- the Hirsch
> > mortising chisels are a little hard to find (got mine at Highland
> > Hardware).
>
> Okay thank you, but do you know of any acceptable
> American made chisels? Two Cherries or Hirsch's will
> be far too expensive for me and my learning stage... I
> have seen prices all over the 'net. I need to spend less
> on a complete set, double ferruled and strong steel.

Sorry, Alex ... I don't know of any American made ones of comparable
quality. I am pretty chea^H^H er, value-conscious, and I think it's
a good move to spend a couple of extra bucks for good chisels. You'll
probably use them frequently and they will last forever.

Good luck!
Nate

An

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

26/04/2004 11:04 AM


> I use Two Cherries chisels. I have heard that Hirsch chisels are from
> the same factory, and can be had at slightly lower prices (Lee Valley
> is a good source). For mortising, I have an 8mm Hirsch -- the Hirsch
> mortising chisels are a little hard to find (got mine at Highland
> Hardware).

Okay thank you, but do you know of any acceptable
American made chisels? Two Cherries or Hirsch's will
be far too expensive for me and my learning stage... I
have seen prices all over the 'net. I need to spend less
on a complete set, double ferruled and strong steel.

Much appreciated,

Alex

TV

Tom Veatch

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

26/04/2004 6:34 PM

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:09:17 -0700, "AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote:


>Okay thanks, I've got my eye on a set of 7 750's
>1/8", 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" $85.00.
>All beautiful condition, is that a good price?
>
>Alex
>

It's not a good price! If you buy at that price, you will be arrested for grand larceny. If you don't buy at that price tell me
where they are so I can!

I've seen the 1/8" alone bring almost that much on eBay.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

MW

"Mark Wells"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 25/04/2004 7:38 AM

27/04/2004 1:51 AM

If I had it to do all over again, I would probably just buy individual
chisels as I need them like everyone suggests for router bits.

Mark

"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> > I use Two Cherries chisels. I have heard that Hirsch chisels are from
> > the same factory, and can be had at slightly lower prices (Lee Valley
> > is a good source). For mortising, I have an 8mm Hirsch -- the Hirsch
> > mortising chisels are a little hard to find (got mine at Highland
> > Hardware).
>
> Okay thank you, but do you know of any acceptable
> American made chisels? Two Cherries or Hirsch's will
> be far too expensive for me and my learning stage... I
> have seen prices all over the 'net. I need to spend less
> on a complete set, double ferruled and strong steel.
>
> Much appreciated,
>
> Alex
>
>


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