AB

Andrew Barss

17/09/2004 5:42 AM

Looking for a quick-release vise


I'm in need of a large quick release vise, preferably the Record style,
where a lever is depressed releasing the vise (as opposed to the Jorgenson
type, which requires a turn of the handle to release it).

What I really want is the largest Record, but they're out of production.
DOes anyone here have experience with any of the knockoffs, like

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=801-801

and

http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185

Any advise appreciated --


Andy Barss


This topic has 19 replies

RL

"Robin Lee"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

20/09/2004 9:15 AM


"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >: Woodcraft also sells the Groz vise seen in the garretwade link below.
> >
> >:> http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemTyp
> >:> e=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185
> >
> >
> >
> > Hartville Tool sells the Groz vise, but I think (from the web pix,
> > anyways) that the Garrett Wade one is from a different manufacturer.
> >
> > -- Andy Barss
> >
>
> The Garrett Wade product is produced in India. Groz was reported here to
> be a Czech product, I believe. Eastern Europe somewhere, at least.
>
> Patriarch

Hi -

Sorry - I beleive Groz is Indian too...

Cheers -

Rob

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 7:43 AM

I have had the Grizzly version of that knockoff for years. I find nothing
to complain about, and use it in every shop appearance. Every bit as smooth
as an old Record. The quick release works flawlessly.

However, import values being what they are, what you get today could be
totally different.

--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop


"Andrew Barss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm in need of a large quick release vise, preferably the Record style,
> where a lever is depressed releasing the vise (as opposed to the Jorgenson
> type, which requires a turn of the handle to release it).
>
> What I really want is the largest Record, but they're out of production.
> DOes anyone here have experience with any of the knockoffs, like
>
> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=801-801
>
> and
>
>
http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemType=PRODU
CT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185
>
> Any advise appreciated --
>
>
> Andy Barss
>
>

gG

[email protected] (Gary DeWitt)

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 10:49 PM

> What I really want is the largest Record, but they're out of production.
> DOes anyone here have experience with any of the knockoffs, like


I have the large Record, purchased 4-5 years ago, and really like it.
The maximum opening comes in handy even for planing short pieces
(against a bench dog) across the end of my bench.
Perhaps you could find one used on Ebay, like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4123&item=6117953120&rd=1
altho that one looks to have some rust and will need a good cleaning.
If I had to choose one of the ones you linked to, it'd be the Garrett
Wade. I'd really rather see what I was getting, as I've seen some
pretty awful furin (sound it out) made vices...
BTW, I buried the fixed jaw BEHIND the apron around my bench, making
it easy to hold a board flush to the apron all the way across. Just a
small added convenience.

Mm

Mapdude

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 6:02 AM

Have you looked around on eBay?

Andrew Barss wrote:

> I'm in need of a large quick release vise, preferably the Record style,
> where a lever is depressed releasing the vise (as opposed to the Jorgenson
> type, which requires a turn of the handle to release it).
>
> What I really want is the largest Record, but they're out of production.
> DOes anyone here have experience with any of the knockoffs, like
>
> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=801-801
>
> and
>
> http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185
>
> Any advise appreciated --
>
>
> Andy Barss
>
>

Tt

"TEF"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 3:07 PM

I have the 9" Gotz from Hartville Tool and like it very much. Superior to a
7" Jorgensen that is mounted on the same woodworking bench. The Gotz vise
is very heavy and would have been difficult to mount if the maple worktop
hadn't been removable. It is much easier to mount to a table top if the
work surface is upside down.


"Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't know much about them, but here's another one to consider:
> http://www.hartvilletool.com/product.php?search_id=94709
> Lewis

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 6:39 AM

Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

<Snip>
> DOes anyone here have experience with any of the
> knockoffs,

I have the Garrett Wade product, and like it. The only problem I have is
because I'm too lazy to Locktite the knob on the vise handle, and every
once in a while, I have to dig in the shavings to find it.

Patriarch

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 3:24 PM

Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:39:55 GMT, patriarch
> <<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have the Garrett Wade product, and like it. The only problem I have
>>is because I'm too lazy to Locktite the knob on the vise handle, and
>>every once in a while, I have to dig in the shavings to find it.
>
> You should fix that.
>
> _Before_ it lands on your toe. Vice handles hurt !
>

There are a lot of things on that list, Andy!

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 8:09 PM

"TEF" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I have the 9" Gotz from Hartville Tool and like it very much.
> Superior to a 7" Jorgensen that is mounted on the same woodworking
> bench. The Gotz vise is very heavy and would have been difficult to
> mount if the maple worktop hadn't been removable. It is much easier
> to mount to a table top if the work surface is upside down.
>

However, mark the SIDE you want the vise on, while the table is in the
final, upright position. Please don't ask me why this is important. ;-)

Patriarch

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

19/09/2004 10:09 PM

Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>: Woodcraft also sells the Groz vise seen in the garretwade link below.
>
>:> http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemTyp
>:> e=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185
>
>
>
> Hartville Tool sells the Groz vise, but I think (from the web pix,
> anyways) that the Garrett Wade one is from a different manufacturer.
>
> -- Andy Barss
>

The Garrett Wade product is produced in India. Groz was reported here to
be a Czech product, I believe. Eastern Europe somewhere, at least.

Patriarch

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

26/09/2004 12:04 AM

Unnh <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> >> You should fix that.
> >>
> >> _Before_ it lands on your toe. Vice handles hurt !
> >>
> >
> >There are a lot of things on that list, Andy!
>
> I just have to ask:
> Is that the list of things that might hurt your toe? (sounds dangerous)
> or the list of things ta do?

It's the 'you should fix that' list. The ta do list fills 4 pages in the
notebook, just for the exterior of the house and the garden.

There's a downside to being handy...

Patriarch,
thinking of Red Green...

lL

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 11:47 AM

I don't know much about them, but here's another one to consider:
http://www.hartvilletool.com/product.php?search_id=94709
Lewis

AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 4:59 PM

Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
: Just out of curiosity, what is the reason behind you preferring the
: lever type over the handle-release type?

It seems faster --- I used to have a big Jorgenson, and found that
having to turn the handle a full twist or two to release it could be a
hassle if I was doing it frequently, or holding a heavy piece of wood (the
latter was the more difficult situation).

-- Andy Barss

AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

19/09/2004 6:29 AM

Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

: Woodcraft also sells the Groz vise seen in the garretwade link below.

:> http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185



Hartville Tool sells the Groz vise, but I think (from the web pix,
anyways) that the Garrett Wade one is from a different manufacturer.

-- Andy Barss

dD

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 7:55 AM

Just out of curiosity, what is the reason behind you preferring the
lever type over the handle-release type?

Woodcraft also sells the Groz vise seen in the garretwade link below.

- Daniel


Andrew Barss <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm in need of a large quick release vise, preferably the Record style,
> where a lever is depressed releasing the vise (as opposed to the Jorgenson
> type, which requires a turn of the handle to release it).
>
> What I really want is the largest Record, but they're out of production.
> DOes anyone here have experience with any of the knockoffs, like
>
> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=801-801
>
> and
>
> http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=103185&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=0&iSubCat=0&iProductID=103185

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 9:34 AM



"fit-of-laziness" Just the perfect term of oxymoron I have never heard, good one.
Alex

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 9:10 PM


"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:gmE2d.96989$yh.91025@fed1read05...
>
> "fit-of-laziness" Just the perfect term of oxymoron I have never heard,
good one.

Was I the only one thinking of a sarcastic rejoinder to a "quick release
vis(c)e"?

Un

Unnh

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

25/09/2004 2:12 AM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:24:13 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:

>Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:39:55 GMT, patriarch
>> <<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I have the Garrett Wade product, and like it. The only problem I
have
>>>is because I'm too lazy to Locktite the knob on the vise handle,
and
>>>every once in a while, I have to dig in the shavings to find it.
>>
>> You should fix that.
>>
>> _Before_ it lands on your toe. Vice handles hurt !
>>
>
>There are a lot of things on that list, Andy!

I just have to ask:
Is that the list of things that might hurt your toe? (sounds dangerous)
or the list of things ta do?

*_-

/ts

pc

"patrick conroy"

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 3:10 PM


"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> because I'm too lazy to Locktite the knob on the vise handle, and every


In a fit of laziness, I had the can of PlasticDip in my hand, I tried
dipping the nut and a portion of my vise handle in it. I like the result.
And it does keep the nut on.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to Andrew Barss on 17/09/2004 5:42 AM

17/09/2004 10:45 AM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:39:55 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:

>I have the Garrett Wade product, and like it. The only problem I have is
>because I'm too lazy to Locktite the knob on the vise handle, and every
>once in a while, I have to dig in the shavings to find it.

You should fix that.

_Before_ it lands on your toe. Vice handles hurt !

--
Smert' spamionam


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