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"AAvK"

08/06/2005 5:55 PM

got my Norton water combos


Just got them today from "Tools for working wood", good service and well packaged.
I bought the two combos of all four grits, the Norton flattening stone made of silicon
carbide (crystolon?) and the Norton "prep stone" which is artificial nagura stone.

THEN (before I recieved the order and after it was shipped) I read that the 8000 grit
does not need it! I forgot where though. Or does it? Should I use it?

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"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

09/06/2005 12:22 PM


> Does not need what- the nagura stone?
>

Yeah... I read that. I want to read it again but I cannot find it. Just wonder if
anyone knows better or where I can read that again so I know why.

Bob do you use the prep stone or a nagura on your Norton 4000 / 8000 stones?

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Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Bi

"Bob in Oregon" <[email protected]>

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

09/06/2005 10:52 AM

Does not need what- the nagura stone?

Bi

"Bob in Oregon" <[email protected]>

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

09/06/2005 3:43 PM

One of us isnt making sense. Yes, use the nagura on your 4000 and 8000
stones to deglaze and build up slurry (mud).

Mi

"Mike in Idaho"

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

09/06/2005 4:54 PM

What? Really?

I thought naura was for japanese stones. Woodcraft never told me I'd
need one for my 4000/8000 norton combo. What if I've not used it. Is
that bad? Will it help in the future? Is it a Norton brand?

Thanks,
Mike

Bi

"Bob in Oregon" <[email protected]>

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

10/06/2005 4:42 PM

The nagura stone is optional, but I have always found it helpful is
clearing the stone of metal particles (deglazing) during the sharpening
process. It also helps to build up a slurry on the 8000 which I only
use for a few strokes (I microbevel) which does not produce much of a
slurry due to the stone's hardness. You do not have to have it. Check
Lee Valley. They have them.

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

10/06/2005 6:23 AM


> What? Really?
>
> I thought naura was for japanese stones. Woodcraft never told me I'd
> need one for my 4000/8000 norton combo. What if I've not used it. Is
> that bad? Will it help in the future? Is it a Norton brand?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Mike, mine is a Norton prep stone, fake nagura, it ain't exactly "chalk" as harder
than that. It is too expensive imho at $16.95. I got it along with the order because
it's what they had. You can get fake Nagura stones at these links for much
cheaper:
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1512
http://bladegallery.com/ "accessories" link. These are larger than the Nortons.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3726294612
Norton's:
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=toolshop&Product_Code=NO-NAGURA&Category_Code=CNO

I did see the difference, using nagura richly (much of it, not a super amount),
created a mirror polish and hence a finer hone, but not* without it. Better to
find it as cheap as possible. Since there are different grades of the natural nagura
and the best is expensive, better to get the artificial ones if you're economical.

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 08/06/2005 5:55 PM

09/06/2005 4:29 PM


> One of us isnt making sense. Yes, use the nagura on your 4000 and 8000
> stones to deglaze and build up slurry (mud).
>

Bob, you are making sense. Thank you.

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/


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