You guys are going to love this. I bought the Delta 305 back 8-10 years
ago at Crappy Tire.
I purchased it to rerun My square D white pine 10"x6" logs, some are 3 ft
and some are 20 ft.
Yes I know I need a industrial planner but on My budget it isn't happening.
Now the dilemma, It feeds Ok but fails to pull the log through the
machine.
I have to assist it which becomes very labour intensive.
Is there any way to have the rollers modified with a substance to grab the
log better?
Even with multiple light passes I still have to push.
It is not laboring the cutter head but certainly doesn't pull these logs
through.
I don't care @ $199. cost if I burn this thing out, as long as it does all
My logs board feet
with several knives I will still be ahead of the game.
Any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated.
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Smeg <[email protected]> wrote:
> You guys are going to love this. I bought the Delta 305 back 8-10 years
> ago at Crappy Tire.
> I purchased it to rerun My square D white pine 10"x6" logs, some are 3 ft
> and some are 20 ft.
> Yes I know I need a industrial planner but on My budget it isn't happening.
> Now the dilemma, It feeds Ok but fails to pull the log through the
> machine.
> I have to assist it which becomes very labour intensive.
> Is there any way to have the rollers modified with a substance to grab the
> log better?
> Even with multiple light passes I still have to push.
> It is not laboring the cutter head but certainly doesn't pull these logs
> through.
> I don't care @ $199. cost if I burn this thing out, as long as it does all
> My logs board feet
> with several knives I will still be ahead of the game.
> Any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated.
>
> --
Think about this, "you" are strong enough to lift the work and help push it
through and that is labor intensive for you. Your dinky planer is not.
If it cannot grip tight enough to feed the work "and" cut, you are asking
too much. These type planers will marginally cut 10" wide on stock that is
3/4" thick let alone have the power to feed something 8 times heavier.
replying to Leon , Smeg wrote:
> lcb11211 wrote:
>
> Think about this, "you" are strong enough to lift the work and help push
it
> through and that is labor intensive for you. Your dinky planer is not.
> If it cannot grip tight enough to feed the work "and" cut, you are
asking
> too much. These type planers will marginally cut 10" wide on stock that
is
> 3/4" thick let alone have the power to feed something 8 times heavier.
Yes I know I am asking too much from My dinky planner but it's working and
I just purchase 4 stand rollers. It may burn out eventually but as I wrote
earlier for $199. on sale who cares.
I set it so hardly nothing comes off the 1st two passes but it more trues
the surface. I have done about 20 logs so far and haven't had to spin the
blades as of Yet. I am surprised at the quality of the finish product.
Thanks for You input.
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On 08/24/2015 8:44 AM, Smeg wrote:
...
> Yes I know I am asking too much from My dinky planner but it's working and
> I just purchase 4 stand rollers. It may burn out eventually but as I wrote
> earlier for $199. on sale who cares. I set it so hardly nothing comes
> off the 1st two passes but it more trues
> the surface. I have done about 20 logs so far and haven't had to spin the
> blades as of Yet. I am surprised at the quality of the finish product.
As said, it's too much to expect of the planer to move that much
material thru it; as you've noted it's not the actual planing that's too
much for the machine but the material movement.
Somewhat on the vein of Leon's earlier suggestion, rig up a power-feed
assist. A 12V winch with some proper pulley sizing to get an
appropriate speed would be one way...
That load would put a strain on my old Rockwell/Delta Model 13 which is
the industrial-strength old small planer...
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replying to dpb , Smeg wrote:
> none wrote:
>
> ...
> As said, it's too much to expect of the planer to move that much
> material thru it; as you've noted it's not the actual planing that's too
> much for the machine but the material movement.
> Somewhat on the vein of Leon's earlier suggestion, rig up a power-feed
> assist. A 12V winch with some proper pulley sizing to get an
> appropriate speed would be one way...
> That load would put a strain on my old Rockwell/Delta Model 13 which is
> the industrial-strength old small planer...
Well I will let You know what happens with the roller stands My set up is
very basic, planner is set onto concrete blocks then concrete blocks 8ft
then 6 ft behind the one on the feed side. allows me to not have to lift
the whole log, just put leading edge onto planner then lift about the
halfway point and help it feed. There is a wooden box on the out side and
I must support and help the log through, it's quite a work out! I also
read some had raised the leading and leaving table above flat and that
helped a bit with the pull of both rollers.
You know I didn't expect a Delta little job like this to even run these
massive logs, one of My Bros said it would stall and lock up their
mastercraft ones but this Delta was bought way back over 15 years ago and
never used, We lived off grid and this planner would overheat My 2425
Trace Inverter and kick it off on over temp. So it's really nothing if it
gets burned out and owes me nothing. Gives fact to some of the older North
America products with beefy chains sprockets and the resiliency of the
products We use to produce in this country.
Way to go Delta Michigan for a Previous little planner that some Nut could
actually run full house logs through!
Maybe I will now get the dream Shop I always wanted!
Hey DELTA I could use some Roof Trusses!! Lol
Will let You know how the rollers help/work, I know My arms and shoulders
are getting bigger and I don't need a workout that day!
--
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> replying to dpb , Smeg wrote:
> > none wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > As said, it's too much to expect of the planer to move that much
> > material thru it; as you've noted it's not the actual planing that's too
> > much for the machine but the material movement.
> > Somewhat on the vein of Leon's earlier suggestion, rig up a power-feed
> > assist. A 12V winch with some proper pulley sizing to get an
> > appropriate speed would be one way...
> > That load would put a strain on my old Rockwell/Delta Model 13 which is
> > the industrial-strength old small planer...
>
>
> Well I will let You know what happens with the roller stands My set up is
> very basic, planner is set onto concrete blocks then concrete blocks 8ft
> then 6 ft behind the one on the feed side. allows me to not have to lift
> the whole log, just put leading edge onto planner then lift about the
> halfway point and help it feed. There is a wooden box on the out side and
> I must support and help the log through, it's quite a work out! I also
> read some had raised the leading and leaving table above flat and that
> helped a bit with the pull of both rollers.
>
> You know I didn't expect a Delta little job like this to even run these
> massive logs, one of My Bros said it would stall and lock up their
> mastercraft ones but this Delta was bought way back over 15 years ago and
> never used, We lived off grid and this planner would overheat My 2425
> Trace Inverter and kick it off on over temp. So it's really nothing if it
> gets burned out and owes me nothing. Gives fact to some of the older North
> America products with beefy chains sprockets and the resiliency of the
> products We use to produce in this country.
>
> Way to go Delta Michigan for a Previous little planner that some Nut could
> actually run full house logs through!
> Maybe I will now get the dream Shop I always wanted!
> Hey DELTA I could use some Roof Trusses!! Lol
>
> Will let You know how the rollers help/work, I know My arms and shoulders
> are getting bigger and I don't need a workout that day!
Whether the planer locks up depends on how much of a cut you're taking,
not on the size of the timber. The local hardwood yard has an immense
industrial-strength planer--I don't know the horsepower but it's the
size of an SUV. They stuck a piece of 8/4 ipe in it and tried to cut a
half inch off and the thing stalled. OTOH, my little delta will cut up
ipe all day as long as I don't go more than 1/8 or so at a pass.
On 8/25/2015 5:28 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> replying to dpb , Smeg wrote:
>>> none wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>> As said, it's too much to expect of the planer to move that much
>>> material thru it; as you've noted it's not the actual planing that's too
>>> much for the machine but the material movement.
>>> Somewhat on the vein of Leon's earlier suggestion, rig up a power-feed
>>> assist. A 12V winch with some proper pulley sizing to get an
>>> appropriate speed would be one way...
>>> That load would put a strain on my old Rockwell/Delta Model 13 which is
>>> the industrial-strength old small planer...
>>
>>
>> Well I will let You know what happens with the roller stands My set up is
>> very basic, planner is set onto concrete blocks then concrete blocks 8ft
>> then 6 ft behind the one on the feed side. allows me to not have to lift
>> the whole log, just put leading edge onto planner then lift about the
>> halfway point and help it feed. There is a wooden box on the out side and
>> I must support and help the log through, it's quite a work out! I also
>> read some had raised the leading and leaving table above flat and that
>> helped a bit with the pull of both rollers.
>>
>> You know I didn't expect a Delta little job like this to even run these
>> massive logs, one of My Bros said it would stall and lock up their
>> mastercraft ones but this Delta was bought way back over 15 years ago and
>> never used, We lived off grid and this planner would overheat My 2425
>> Trace Inverter and kick it off on over temp. So it's really nothing if it
>> gets burned out and owes me nothing. Gives fact to some of the older North
>> America products with beefy chains sprockets and the resiliency of the
>> products We use to produce in this country.
>>
>> Way to go Delta Michigan for a Previous little planner that some Nut could
>> actually run full house logs through!
>> Maybe I will now get the dream Shop I always wanted!
>> Hey DELTA I could use some Roof Trusses!! Lol
>>
>> Will let You know how the rollers help/work, I know My arms and shoulders
>> are getting bigger and I don't need a workout that day!
>
> Whether the planer locks up depends on how much of a cut you're taking,
> not on the size of the timber. The local hardwood yard has an immense
> industrial-strength planer--I don't know the horsepower but it's the
> size of an SUV. They stuck a piece of 8/4 ipe in it and tried to cut a
> half inch off and the thing stalled. OTOH, my little delta will cut up
> ipe all day as long as I don't go more than 1/8 or so at a pass.
>
Some how I don't believe you are taking 1/8" out of ipe, maybe 1/16" out
of a narrow board. Care to share a picture of a partial pass?
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> And while I am saying the following statement with my tongue firmly
> planted in my cheek....
>
> It would probably be easier on the long pieces to suspend them, mount
> the planer on one end, and let the planer walk its way along the
> length of the timber.
>
Sounds like how a hand plane works. I've got one of those... No um...
4...5...uh oh I'm infected with hand plane colletion disease! It's been
months since I got a new one... I need a fix. Anyone got a #192?
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On 8/7/2015 11:10 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> Smeg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You guys are going to love this. I bought the Delta 305 back 8-10
>>> years ago at Crappy Tire.
>>> I purchased it to rerun My square D white pine 10"x6" logs, some are
>>> 3 ft and some are 20 ft.
>>> Yes I know I need a industrial planner but on My budget it isn't
>>> happening. Now the dilemma, It feeds Ok but fails to pull the log
>>> through the machine.
>>> I have to assist it which becomes very labour intensive.
>>> Is there any way to have the rollers modified with a substance to
>>> grab the log better?
>>> Even with multiple light passes I still have to push.
>>> It is not laboring the cutter head but certainly doesn't pull these
>>> logs through.
>>> I don't care @ $199. cost if I burn this thing out, as long as it
>>> does all My logs board feet
>>> with several knives I will still be ahead of the game.
>>> Any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Think about this, "you" are strong enough to lift the work and help
>> push it through and that is labor intensive for you. Your dinky
>> planer is not.
>> If it cannot grip tight enough to feed the work "and" cut, you are
>> asking too much. These type planers will marginally cut 10" wide on
>> stock that is 3/4" thick let alone have the power to feed something 8
>> times heavier.
>
> Amen! You want to move big pidces through your planer, either buy a bigger
> planer or build an infeed and out feed for it. Is there really anything
> outside of what the manual of this planer describes, that would justify this
> post?
>
And while I am saying the following statement with my tongue firmly
planted in my cheek....
It would probably be easier on the long pieces to suspend them, mount
the planer on one end, and let the planer walk its way along the length
of the timber.
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:44:06 PM UTC-5, Smeg wrote:
> Now the dilemma, It feeds Ok but fails to pull the log through the
> machine.=20
Does this happen with all the logs or with just the longer, heavier ones? =
I suppose, with just the longer, heavier ones.
> I have to assist it which becomes very labour intensive.
> Is there any way to have the rollers modified with a substance to grab th=
e
> log better?
Have you tried an extended outfeed roller, 8' to 12' from the planer, to li=
ft the front end of the longer logs, as the rear of the logs are planed.
I'm also visualizing your logs have one face flat (to be planed) and the re=
st of the log is live edged, i.e., uneven, for the planer rollers to grasp =
it properly, consistantly. I could see it jamming if the small end, of a =
log, is run through the planer, first.
Two other options: 1) have a pro shop joint the faces on a 12" jointer or =
2) use a powered hand planer and finish/cleanup with a belt sander....=20
*Wondering, how perfectly planed do the faces need to be?
Sonny
replying to Sonny , Smeg wrote:
> cedarsonny wrote:
>
> Does this happen with all the logs or with just the longer, heavier ones?
> I suppose, with just the longer, heavier ones.
> e
> Have you tried an extended outfeed roller, 8' to 12' from the planer, to
li
> ft the front end of the longer logs, as the rear of the logs are planed.
> I'm also visualizing your logs have one face flat (to be planed) and the
re
> st of the log is live edged, i.e., uneven, for the planer rollers to grasp
> it properly, consistantly. I could see it jamming if the small end, of a
> log, is run through the planer, first.
> Two other options: 1) have a pro shop joint the faces on a 12" jointer or
> 2) use a powered hand planer and finish/cleanup with a belt sander....
> *Wondering, how perfectly planed do the faces need to be?
> Sonny
Longer logs but I just purchased 4 roller stands so should be easier now.
The logs a square D and are flat on both sides.
They don't have to be perfect just taking off less than 1/4 inch off each
side using about 4-6 passes very lightly on each side.
They have been sitting about ten years now and weathered on the outside
and a bit punky, they have come up very nicely and grain is showing
through. Will use hand power planer on bottoms and tops, they are factory
cut T&G
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Leon wrote:
> Smeg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You guys are going to love this. I bought the Delta 305 back 8-10
>> years ago at Crappy Tire.
>> I purchased it to rerun My square D white pine 10"x6" logs, some are
>> 3 ft and some are 20 ft.
>> Yes I know I need a industrial planner but on My budget it isn't
>> happening. Now the dilemma, It feeds Ok but fails to pull the log
>> through the machine.
>> I have to assist it which becomes very labour intensive.
>> Is there any way to have the rollers modified with a substance to
>> grab the log better?
>> Even with multiple light passes I still have to push.
>> It is not laboring the cutter head but certainly doesn't pull these
>> logs through.
>> I don't care @ $199. cost if I burn this thing out, as long as it
>> does all My logs board feet
>> with several knives I will still be ahead of the game.
>> Any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated.
>>
>> --
>
> Think about this, "you" are strong enough to lift the work and help
> push it through and that is labor intensive for you. Your dinky
> planer is not.
> If it cannot grip tight enough to feed the work "and" cut, you are
> asking too much. These type planers will marginally cut 10" wide on
> stock that is 3/4" thick let alone have the power to feed something 8
> times heavier.
Amen! You want to move big pidces through your planer, either buy a bigger
planer or build an infeed and out feed for it. Is there really anything
outside of what the manual of this planer describes, that would justify this
post?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]