Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use around the
workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a while, I'm now
reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for replacement paper bags.
I'm wondering if it's feasible to rig up some cheap substitutes for the
Hitachi paper bags, using good old duct tape and some imagination?
It wouldn't matter how rough and ready they are. Would a material from old
cotton sheets be suitable? Has anyone any experience of such a caper?
john hamilton wrote:
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>>>>>> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
>>>>>> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
>>>>>> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
>>>>>> replacement paper bags.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag
>>>>> open, trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long
>>>>> plastic paper clamp to keep it sealed when in use.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't
>>>>> have to worry about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
>>>>
>>>> Until the bags clog up.
>>>
>>> Well, yes. But ensuring you give it a damn good shake on each empty
>>> should see you getting 10 to 15 uses out of each bag which will
>>> considerably reduce running costs.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>> upright hoovers used to have a cloth bag with a large bulldog clip as
>> original equipment. if you use an interceptor bin the bag will take
>> quite a while to fill in any case. an old oil drum is ideal, you
>> just need a couple of holes and one extra bit of hose, it can even
>> double as a wet pick up, I have used one to clear out drains and
>> then just taken the drum of disgustingness to the tip.
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>
> Thanks to all. Mr Cheerful I'm probably being very thick here, but
> are you talking about extra hose and a couple of holes being
> connected to an upright hover? If not, the hoover I've got is not an
> upright and we cannot quite understand what you are suggesting. Grateful
> for a bit of clarification. Thanks.
I was assuming that you have a standard pull along hoover with a hose, in
which case if you poke the hose from that into a suitable hole in an oil
drum and have another hose that you actually use to suck the stuff up, the
majority then drops into the bottom of the oil drum.
If you have an upright without a hose then your options are more limited!
>
> Make a pre-filter cyclone for it to catch the bulk of the dust - that way
> the bags last ages just mopping up the very fine stuff.
>
> http://codesmiths.com/shed/workshop/techniques/cyclones/
> http://www.internode.co.uk/cyclone/
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John.
>
Great links. I've occasionally thought about trying that myself. (I'm better
at thinking than doing).
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> "john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
>> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
>> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
>> replacement paper bags.
>
> Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag
> open, trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long plastic
> paper clamp to keep it sealed when in use.
>
> You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
>
> Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't have to
> worry about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
Until the bags clog up.
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
john hamilton wrote:
> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
> replacement paper bags.
> I'm wondering if it's feasible to rig up some cheap substitutes for
> the Hitachi paper bags, using good old duct tape and some imagination?
>
> It wouldn't matter how rough and ready they are. Would a material
> from old cotton sheets be suitable? Has anyone any experience of such
> a caper?
Do bear in mind that on many dry only vacs, its the airflow that cools the
motor. Restrict the airflow enough with the wrong material & the motor will
burn out.
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
"john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use around the
> workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a while, I'm now
> reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for replacement paper bags.
Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag open,
trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long plastic paper clamp to
keep it sealed when in use.
You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't have to worry
about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
Regards,
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On 2 Nov, 10:57, "john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use around th=
e
> workshop. =A0 But after having had a bagless one for a while, I'm now
> reluctant to fork out 1.50 or so everytime for replacement paper bags.
>
> I'm wondering if it's feasible to rig up some cheap substitutes for the
> Hitachi paper bags, using good old duct tape and some imagination?
>
> It wouldn't matter how rough and ready they are. Would a material from ol=
d
> cotton sheets be suitable? Has anyone any experience of such a caper?
What about going the whole hog and making something like this:
http://lumberjocks.com/SimonSKL/blog/10097
to suck up the bulky stuff, then jerry-rig the hoover with a large car
or lorry air filter for fine filtration?
I use a Dyson DC04 for the occasional hoovering in the shed, but if I
wanted something permanent, I'd construct something like that, not
just because I'm cheap, err, I mean for the DIY satisfaction, but also
because washing the Dyson filters each time it's been in the shed is a
bit of a pain.
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> "Him & Her" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "The Medway Handyman" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>>> Him & Her wrote:
>>>> "john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
>>>>> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
>>>>> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
>>>>> replacement paper bags.
>>>>
>>>> Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag
>>>> open, trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long plastic
>>>> paper clamp to keep it sealed when in use.
>>>>
>>>> You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
>>>>
>>>> Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't have to
>>>> worry about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
>>>
>>> Until the bags clog up.
>>
>> Well, yes. But ensuring you give it a damn good shake on each empty
>> should see you getting 10 to 15 uses out of each bag which will
>> considerably reduce running costs.
>>
>> Regards,
>
> upright hoovers used to have a cloth bag with a large bulldog clip as
> original equipment. if you use an interceptor bin the bag will take quite
> a while to fill in any case. an old oil drum is ideal, you just need a
> couple of holes and one extra bit of hose, it can even double as a wet
> pick up, I have used one to clear out drains and then just taken the drum
> of disgustingness to the tip.
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Thanks to all. Mr Cheerful I'm probably being very thick here, but are you
talking about extra hose and a couple of holes being connected to an upright
hover? If not, the hoover I've got is not an upright and we cannot quite
understand what you are suggesting. Grateful for a bit of clarification.
Thanks.
On 02/11/2010 10:57, john hamilton wrote:
> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use around the
> workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a while, I'm now
> reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for replacement paper bags.
>
> I'm wondering if it's feasible to rig up some cheap substitutes for the
> Hitachi paper bags, using good old duct tape and some imagination?
>
> It wouldn't matter how rough and ready they are. Would a material from old
> cotton sheets be suitable? Has anyone any experience of such a caper?
Make a pre-filter cyclone for it to catch the bulk of the dust - that
way the bags last ages just mopping up the very fine stuff.
http://codesmiths.com/shed/workshop/techniques/cyclones/
http://www.internode.co.uk/cyclone/
--
Cheers,
John.
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"Him & Her" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "The Medway Handyman" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:Ib%[email protected]...
>> Him & Her wrote:
>>> "john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
>>>> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
>>>> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
>>>> replacement paper bags.
>>>
>>> Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag
>>> open, trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long plastic
>>> paper clamp to keep it sealed when in use.
>>>
>>> You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
>>>
>>> Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't have to
>>> worry about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
>>
>> Until the bags clog up.
>
> Well, yes. But ensuring you give it a damn good shake on each empty should
> see you getting 10 to 15 uses out of each bag which will considerably
> reduce running costs.
>
> Regards,
upright hoovers used to have a cloth bag with a large bulldog clip as
original equipment. if you use an interceptor bin the bag will take quite a
while to fill in any case. an old oil drum is ideal, you just need a couple
of holes and one extra bit of hose, it can even double as a wet pick up, I
have used one to clear out drains and then just taken the drum of
disgustingness to the tip.
"The Medway Handyman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Ib%[email protected]...
> Him & Her wrote:
>> "john hamilton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Have an old Hitachi vacuum cleaner that I would like to now use
>>> around the workshop. But after having had a bagless one for a
>>> while, I'm now reluctant to fork out £1.50 or so everytime for
>>> replacement paper bags.
>>
>> Usually, the original bags are glued at the bottom. I peeled a bag
>> open, trimmed off the end and re-folded. I then used a long plastic
>> paper clamp to keep it sealed when in use.
>>
>> You could also use a couple of bulldog clips or similar.
>>
>> Now you can just empty the bag when the need arises and don't have to
>> worry about restricted air flow / cooling etc.
>
> Until the bags clog up.
Well, yes. But ensuring you give it a damn good shake on each empty should
see you getting 10 to 15 uses out of each bag which will considerably reduce
running costs.
Regards,