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"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu>

11/12/2004 10:33 AM

Brad nailer and tire inflator tank, dangerous?

This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
brad nailers off tire inflator tank?

Thanks



This topic has 12 replies

c

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

13/12/2004 10:01 AM

A brad nailer doesn't use very much air. I have a "proper" hotdog air
compresor for mine, and I can use up nearly a full load of brads before
it will trip the low pressure switch on the compressor. A framing
nailer is a different story. Only get about a dozen nails before it
cycles.

Depending on the size of his tank, the OP could do a reasonable amount
of work before needing to refill his tank. In any case, a regulator is
still highly recommended. For safety issues, and so one has a
consistent driving force.

JW

Jj

John

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

12/12/2004 1:16 PM

One thought would be to put a pressure regulator on the outlet side
fitting of the tank and dial in about 85-90 psig for the nailer.

However, I would call the maker of the tank and ask them WHY they
state the limitation/prohibition that they do

John

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:43:41 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Leroy Mowry wrote:
>> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
>> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
>> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
>> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
>> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
>> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
>> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Since when is a brad nailer not a pneumatic tool ? You're going to cause
>excessive wear on the moving parts of the nailer . I've seen nailers with
>the bottom of the cylinder broken out from excessive pressure . The drive
>pin can break . The piston o-rings can fail . And last but not least , the
>casting can rupture - especially if it's one of the cheap imports .
> Why not make a trip to the nearest hardware store and pick up a cheap
>regulator and a couple of quick disconnects ?

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 2:52 PM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:49:54 GMT, Ba r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:33:45 GMT, "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote:
>
>> What is the danger with running
>>brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>
>
>I do it all the time. I don't see what the problem could be.
>
>Barry


Check that, I was assuming that you were using a regulator, as I do.

No regulator could be a problem. Most BORGs sell small regulators for
less than $20. I actually use a second regulator near the tool about
90% of the time, as it saves trips back to the compressor for fine
pressure adjustments.

Barry

Br

Ba r r y

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 2:49 PM

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:33:45 GMT, "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote:

> What is the danger with running
>brad nailers off tire inflator tank?


I do it all the time. I don't see what the problem could be.

Barry

mh

"mike hide"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 6:19 PM


"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
I have been using one for yeaqrs now with no problem .recently my compressor
quit so I go to the local gas station and recharge it .It will operate my
brad nailer for half a day before needing to be recharged ...mjh

TC

"Terry Coombs"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 5:43 AM

Leroy Mowry wrote:
> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>
> Thanks

Since when is a brad nailer not a pneumatic tool ? You're going to cause
excessive wear on the moving parts of the nailer . I've seen nailers with
the bottom of the cylinder broken out from excessive pressure . The drive
pin can break . The piston o-rings can fail . And last but not least , the
casting can rupture - especially if it's one of the cheap imports .
Why not make a trip to the nearest hardware store and pick up a cheap
regulator and a couple of quick disconnects ?

--
Snag aka OSG #1
'76 FLH "Bag Lady"
BS132 SENS NEWT
"A hand shift is a manly shift ."
<shamelessly stolen>

Sn

"SteveF"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 2:55 PM


"SteveF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
>> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
>> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
>> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
>> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
>> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
>> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>
> Just a guess but I'd think it applies to high cfm tools. In my youth I
> once fried the motor in a small compressor by using it to run a pressure
> washing tool. Compressor was running pretty much constantly trying to
> keep up.
>
> Steve.
>
>\

Oops. Wasn't awake and missed the last line. Just put a regulator on it.

Steve.

Sn

"SteveF"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 11:46 AM


"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>

Just a guess but I'd think it applies to high cfm tools. In my youth I once
fried the motor in a small compressor by using it to run a pressure washing
tool. Compressor was running pretty much constantly trying to keep up.

Steve.

CW

"Cox West"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 6:46 AM

Without a regulator, there's nothing to insure a given level of pressure to
your tool. You won't be able to sink nails to a given depth with any
consistency, because the air pressure supplied to your tool will diminish
somewhat with each nail. Also, your tools will have a range of acceptable
pressure. My compressor's tank may have 120 psi, but the output to my
impact wrench is consistent at 90 psi. Your tank's not going to explode,
but a Harbor Freight nailer might. Make sure the pressure in the tank
doesn't exceed the pressure level acceptable by your tools! The "right"
solution is a compressor. Your setup is one I'd consider for emergency use,
where the only option you have is to take air with you.

Dave



"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>

TM

"Ted Mittelstaedt"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

12/12/2004 1:09 AM


"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>

Your not going to be able to do much nailing before the air in the tank has
gone
down too low.

Ted

eD

"el Diablo"

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

11/12/2004 4:04 PM


"SteveF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
> > supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
> > not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
> > nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
> > an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
> > I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
> > brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
> Just a guess but I'd think it applies to high cfm tools. In my youth I
once
> fried the motor in a small compressor by using it to run a pressure
washing
> tool. Compressor was running pretty much constantly trying to keep up.
>
> Steve.
>
>

How can he run a tire inflator tank constantly? It's just a storage tank.

Brian

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> on 11/12/2004 10:33 AM

13/12/2004 5:27 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Terry Coombs <[email protected]> wrote:
>Leroy Mowry wrote:
>> This pneumatics brad nailer calls for 55-100-psi, the 5G tank
>> supplies 120-psi. The instructions on the side of the tank says, "do
>> not use on pneumatics tools." It didn't say anything about single shot
>> nailers. The laws of physics yet is prove itself. But if anyone see
>> an imminent tank explosion from a hundreds brads let me know so
>> I can get a proper pancake tank. What is the danger with running
>> brad nailers off tire inflator tank?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Since when is a brad nailer not a pneumatic tool ? You're going to cause
>excessive wear on the moving parts of the nailer . I've seen nailers with
>the bottom of the cylinder broken out from excessive pressure . The drive
>pin can break . The piston o-rings can fail . And last but not least , the
>casting can rupture - especially if it's one of the cheap imports .
> Why not make a trip to the nearest hardware store and pick up a cheap
>regulator and a couple of quick disconnects ?
>
>--
>Snag aka OSG #1
>'76 FLH "Bag Lady"
>BS132 SENS NEWT
>"A hand shift is a manly shift ."
><shamelessly stolen>
>
>

Or until then, simply fill the tank to only 100psi?
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]


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