I'm toying with the idea of putting a 24" deep, 6" wide, 20" tall
drawer on one side of desk. Access to the insides would be from the
side of the drawer, sort of like a VHS tape drawer in an EC. Would that
have a bottom AND side mounted slide? Are the side slides different
that a regular full extension side mounted slide?
dave
I dunno, Bill, I ended up calling my local cabinet shop resource. I was
told that they don't stock those special slides; there IS a difference
in the type of slides... Maybe tomorrow when I go for the wood, I'll
ask at a San Jose cabinet supply house if they have anything special for
that application. Regular side slides appear as though they could pull
loose with too much side pressure pulling away from the fixed (attached
to the carcase) portion. In other words there would be a lateral
component instead of just a downward pressure from the drawer's weight.
Bill Wallace wrote:
> Sounds like a cool idea. I'd just put two left or two right hand
> slides on the one framed side. Or you could put one side and one
> bottom mounted slide. Might be a little more stable and easier to
> build up.
>
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>I'm toying with the idea of putting a 24" deep, 6" wide, 20" tall
>>drawer on one side of desk. Access to the insides would be from the
>>side of the drawer, sort of like a VHS tape drawer in an EC. Would that
>>have a bottom AND side mounted slide? Are the side slides different
>>that a regular full extension side mounted slide?
>>
>>dave
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:18:25 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>other than the weight of the drawer itself, I'd doubt if more than 10
>lbs of stuff will go into it. probably less than 5#.
>
>I just looked at the graphic. the slides at the bottom are oriented in
>their usual manner, so THAT'S why they could be used in such an app!
>For a very tall drawer the loss of 1 1/2" wouldn't be too bad...
>
>thanks for the tips, US.
>
>dave
>
About 15 years ago I made a pantry unit with 4 vertical "drawers". The
unit is about 60" high. It was designed to sit on a kick base and a lower
standard-type drawer case. Too long a story but never finished the outside
of it for the kitchen, though I did use it for a while during construction
and it held loads of canned goods and worked great. Now using it in my
shop, and I like it for that application. Anyway, I used normal heavy duty
drawer slides (150lbs?), full extension, at the top so the drawers hang.
At the top of each drawer I used 2x lumber on the flat and that is what the
slides are mounted to. The other sides of the drawer were made with
plywood. If your fully-loaded drawer is really going to be that light,
maybe it could work with one undermount slide and then some guides at the
top of the enclosure so it will not rock side-to-side. Also, if you went
that way you'd want the top piece of the drawer to be long enough so that
it was still somewhat inside the base unit -- and between the guides --
when the drawer was fully extended so it would not possibly tip over. Or
you might use two undermount slides, with the guides at the top. FWIW,
that is the approach I would use if I was building something important
where I wouldn't want the slides to be seen. Otherwise, I might just use a
lighter-weight version of my pantry drawers so the drawer would hang.
could be. I'll check it out when I go downtown today, using the
"pantry" designation and see if anyone's got that kind of hardware in
stock. thanks
dave
Rich wrote:
> Bay Area Dave wrote, wondering if this is really what he meant?
>
>
>>I'm toying with the idea of putting a 24" deep, 6" wide, 20" tall
>>drawer on one side of desk. Access to the insides would be from the
>>side of the drawer, sort of like a VHS tape drawer in an EC. Would that
>>have a bottom AND side mounted slide? Are the side slides different
>>that a regular full extension side mounted slide?
>>
>>dave.
>
>
> Are you talking about a pantry slide type of operation? If so there is a
> special slide made for tons of weight and will support the whole cabinet
> drawer or pantry module.
>
> Rich
Bay Area Dave wrote, wondering if this is really what he meant?
> I'm toying with the idea of putting a 24" deep, 6" wide, 20" tall
> drawer on one side of desk. Access to the insides would be from the
> side of the drawer, sort of like a VHS tape drawer in an EC. Would that
> have a bottom AND side mounted slide? Are the side slides different
> that a regular full extension side mounted slide?
>
> dave.
Are you talking about a pantry slide type of operation? If so there is a
special slide made for tons of weight and will support the whole cabinet
drawer or pantry module.
Rich
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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I dunno, Bill, I ended up calling my local cabinet shop resource. I was
> told that they don't stock those special slides; there IS a difference
> in the type of slides... Maybe tomorrow when I go for the wood, I'll
> ask at a San Jose cabinet supply house if they have anything special for
> that application. Regular side slides appear as though they could pull
> loose with too much side pressure pulling away from the fixed (attached
> to the carcase) portion. In other words there would be a lateral
> component instead of just a downward pressure from the drawer's weight.
I've designed a fairly simple and workable setup for my entertainment
centre, except that it uses three standard full extension drawer slides with
the on the two on the bottom hidden, while the one on the top is laid flat
to control lateral sway. If anyone wants to see my design, email me
privately and I'll send you a graphic that you can modify to personal
preferences.
Sounds like a cool idea. I'd just put two left or two right hand
slides on the one framed side. Or you could put one side and one
bottom mounted slide. Might be a little more stable and easier to
build up.
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm toying with the idea of putting a 24" deep, 6" wide, 20" tall
> drawer on one side of desk. Access to the insides would be from the
> side of the drawer, sort of like a VHS tape drawer in an EC. Would that
> have a bottom AND side mounted slide? Are the side slides different
> that a regular full extension side mounted slide?
>
> dave
Upscale wrote, wondering if this is really what he meant?
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> could be. I'll check it out when I go downtown today, using the
>> "pantry" designation and see if anyone's got that kind of hardware in
>> stock. thanks
>
> The pantry type slide would work, but ideally it's designed for an
> extremely heavy load. Something like a pull out vertical drawer on an
> entertainment centre would make the pantry type very much an overkill as
> well as taking up a lot more space than using regular full extension
> drawer slides. They cost more too. Take a look at the grapic I put in
> alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking. Lee Valley Tools has drawer slides that
> can hold up to 300 lbs or more. If you're thinking of an entertainment
> vertical drawer that weighs that much, then you'd be filling it with lead,
> not various media types.
Just took a look at your design. That looks like the ticket! Should solve
Dave's problem.
Good job,
Rich
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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> could be. I'll check it out when I go downtown today, using the
> "pantry" designation and see if anyone's got that kind of hardware in
> stock. thanks
The pantry type slide would work, but ideally it's designed for an extremely
heavy load. Something like a pull out vertical drawer on an entertainment
centre would make the pantry type very much an overkill as well as taking up
a lot more space than using regular full extension drawer slides. They cost
more too. Take a look at the grapic I put in
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking. Lee Valley Tools has drawer slides that
can hold up to 300 lbs or more. If you're thinking of an entertainment
vertical drawer that weighs that much, then you'd be filling it with lead,
not various media types.