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"habbi"

19/02/2005 1:27 PM

face frames, PH vs. biscuit

Is there any advantage of pocket holes versus biscuits for face frame
joints?


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Gg

"George"

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

19/02/2005 9:22 AM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is there any advantage of pocket holes versus biscuits for face frame
> joints?
>
>
Maybe. Depends on how well you intend on attaching them to the cabinet. If
they're glued to it, biscuits are more than enough, even if you put them at
right angles to the joint from the rear.

The less support the joint has from the cabinet, the more you want to
consider the shear strength of the pocket holes, though I'd bet that
biscuits attached in the conventional way are as strong in shear, just
lacking in pull-out.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

19/02/2005 10:42 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Is there any advantage of pocket holes versus biscuits for face frame
> > joints?
>
> Speed in building and the ability to make face frame pieces as narrow as
you
> want. No waiting on glue to dry.
>
>

Since you only see the face, biscuits half way into the backs of the pieces
trimmed flush will also work. Maybe not as well as into the ends, but if
glued/fixed to the carcass, good enough.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

19/02/2005 10:49 AM

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in news:d9HRd.4810$oh4.184828@ursa-
nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

> Is there any advantage of pocket holes versus biscuits for face frame
> joints?
>

Use both, where applicable.

Biscuits align easier. Pocket screws 'clamp' faster.

If you're doing hundreds, speed matters a lot. If you're doing your own
kitchen, once, you can afford to move a bit more slowly.

Patriarch,
also a fan of good assembly tables with clamping points...

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

21/02/2005 12:06 AM

"C & S" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> Biscuits align easier.
>
> I beg to differ with that. I have a kreg "pro pack" The clamp that
> comes with the system makes alignment flawless which is more than I
> can say for my biscuit execution.
>
> YMMV.
>

It does. So what? Use what works for you.

I have no monopoly on truth.

Patriarch

CS

"C & S"

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

20/02/2005 9:49 PM

> Biscuits align easier.

I beg to differ with that. I have a kreg "pro pack" The clamp that comes
with the system makes alignment flawless which is more than I can say for my
biscuit execution.

YMMV.

-Steve

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "habbi" on 19/02/2005 1:27 PM

19/02/2005 3:19 PM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Is there any advantage of pocket holes versus biscuits for face frame
> joints?

Speed in building and the ability to make face frame pieces as narrow as you
want. No waiting on glue to dry.


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