Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
other night.
A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
Application:
Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
Neat idea IMHO.
Lew
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> just use another pencil in another hole - 2 reference points is all
>> you'd ever need.
>
> Not quite. You have to find some way to not put the sandpaper on
> upsidedown. A $6000 optical reader should be sufficient.
>
>
You could also add a CNC machine to make the holes in the sand paper
yourself. Not only would the holes be perfectly aligned, they'd fit any
hole pattern!
Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
On Jul 21, 1:16=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >My Bosch pad sander came with a widget (though of inferior plastic)
> >to
>
> do the same.
>
> Must be something rather recent with Bosch.
> My last 3727, about 3 years old, didn't have one.
R1297DK. It's the "PunchPlate" used to punch the 1/4 sheet.
In article <[email protected]>, jo4hn
<[email protected]> wrote:
> There is a down-side to everything...
Even a mobius strip?
"pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
> "other way up" on them?
> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it should
be "this side up".
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> writes:
>Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
>other night.
>
>A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
>A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
>pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
>The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
>match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
>Application:
>
>Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
>dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
>Neat idea IMHO.
>
So what do you use the Cleaver for?
s
On 7/20/2009 7:18 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> other night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
I thought you were going to tell us how to make a knife.
Don't you mean "clever"?
(How many others think Usenet is contributing to the decline and fall of
basic spelling abilities?)
--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism
On Jul 21, 1:55=A0pm, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> writes:
> >Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> >other night.
>
> >A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> >A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> >pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> >The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> >match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> >Application:
>
> >Place sandpaper =A0on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
> >dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> >Neat idea IMHO.
>
> So what do you use the Cleaver for?
>
> s
What a cleaver might look like:
http://epguides.com/LeaveIttoBeaver/cast.jpg
"pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> just use another pencil in another hole - 2 reference points is all you'd
> ever need.
Not quite. You have to find some way to not put the sandpaper on upsidedown.
A $6000 optical reader should be sufficient.
On Jul 20, 9:18=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> other night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper =A0on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
My Bosch pad sander came with a widget (though of inferior plastic) to
do the same.
On Jul 20, 10:18=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> other night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper =A0on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
>
> Lew
When I 'have to' make holes, I use a 1/2" hole punch, like one you buy
in a cheap kit from HF etc. The difference is, I stick mine in a drill
press, and at run at slow speed.... about 5 sheets at the time. Works
like a beauty, eh?
Robatoy wrote:
> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upscale wrote:
>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it should
>>> be "this side up".
>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>> confusing.
>> nobody to home
>
> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
> side you're on.
Is it reversed if you are in China?
And how do they decide which side to mark on exports?
--
Froz...
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the other
> night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel pins
> projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align dowels
> with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
>
> Lew
>
I never found it hard or necessary to align the holes that precicely.
>
On Jul 21, 5:41=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:8dd2c64b-33e1-4851-82ea-cbec1a7e848b@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 21, 9:16 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> snip
>
> Now, when you ask me about the performance on wood, I suspect if the
> stuff is really splintery or full of resin, you might get some
> clogging. It works great on cherry, maple, walnut and hickory.
>
> You won't believe the 'cut' you get from their 240... fast, clean and
> durable... simply nothing like it.
>
> Actually I was think about the use on coarse grained red oak, the wood I =
use
> 80% of the time.
> So you just go directly onto the Festool pad and get after it? =A0I'll ha=
ve to
> try some out.
Yup. Directly onto the Festool pad. I always keep two pads for each
sander...a hard/flat one and a soft one and the Abranet always sticks.
On Jul 21, 9:16=A0am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
> *Haughty sniff*.. well.. *I* use Mirka Abranet sandpaper/screens so it
> is never an issue.
>
> <G>
>
> BTW.. once you get hooked (no pun intended) on Abranet, you will never
> use sand'paper' again. It costs a little more, but the results are
> superior and the stuff lasts a long time. I did a study, it is
> actually cheaper in the long run. A perfect mate to Festool sanders.
>
> I have been eyeing that stuff, does it require a special atachment pad? =
=A0Are
> there a variety of grits? =A0Works good on wood?
First of all, the Festool pads are perfect for Abranet. They stick
like dog-snot to a screen door. (Shit to a blanket, whatever...)
The consistency in grit is second to none and my collection goes from
180 to 240 to 320 to 400 to 600.
I think there are courser and finer grits than that, but I don't use
them.
In the 7 years I have been using that stuff, I have yet to see a
screen clog up.... then again, I don't use that stuff on latex painted
surfaces...it is not made for crap-removal. I would also not use my
Festool sanders (3) for that kind of work anyway.
The dust-removal aspect of Abranet-on-Festool is simply unbelievable.
(Although you're already indoctrinated.)
Now, when you ask me about the performance on wood, I suspect if the
stuff is really splintery or full of resin, you might get some
clogging. It works great on cherry, maple, walnut and hickory.
You won't believe the 'cut' you get from their 240... fast, clean and
durable... simply nothing like it.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
*Haughty sniff*.. well.. *I* use Mirka Abranet sandpaper/screens so it
is never an issue.
<G>
BTW.. once you get hooked (no pun intended) on Abranet, you will never
use sand'paper' again. It costs a little more, but the results are
superior and the stuff lasts a long time. I did a study, it is
actually cheaper in the long run. A perfect mate to Festool sanders.
I have been eyeing that stuff, does it require a special atachment pad? Are
there a variety of grits? Works good on wood?
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8dd2c64b-33e1-4851-82ea-cbec1a7e848b@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 21, 9:16 am, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
snip
Now, when you ask me about the performance on wood, I suspect if the
stuff is really splintery or full of resin, you might get some
clogging. It works great on cherry, maple, walnut and hickory.
You won't believe the 'cut' you get from their 240... fast, clean and
durable... simply nothing like it.
Actually I was think about the use on coarse grained red oak, the wood I use
80% of the time.
So you just go directly onto the Festool pad and get after it? I'll have to
try some out.
On Jul 20, 10:43=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the ot=
her
> > night.
>
> > A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> > A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel pin=
s
> > projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> > The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> > match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> > Application:
>
> > Place sandpaper =A0on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align dow=
els
> > with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> > Neat idea IMHO.
>
> > Lew
>
> I never found it hard or necessary to align the holes that precicely.
>
>
>
>
*Haughty sniff*.. well.. *I* use Mirka Abranet sandpaper/screens so it
is never an issue.
<G>
BTW.. once you get hooked (no pun intended) on Abranet, you will never
use sand'paper' again. It costs a little more, but the results are
superior and the stuff lasts a long time. I did a study, it is
actually cheaper in the long run. A perfect mate to Festool sanders.
Tanus wrote:
> Morris Dovey wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it
>>>>> should
>>>>> be "this side up".
>>>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>>>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>>>> confusing.
>>>> nobody to home
>>>
>>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
>>> side you're on.
>>
>> Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
>> inside all her shoes...
>>
>
> Tits go in first?
Try Toes, see if that works for you.
--
Froz...
Rockler sells them.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the other
> night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel pins
> projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align dowels
> with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
>
> Lew
>
>
"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
>
As seen on a Claymore mine.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6e447a8e-4fab-42a9-b004-9ab618d89c07@k30g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 10:18 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> other night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
>
> Lew
When I 'have to' make holes, I use a 1/2" hole punch, like one you buy
in a cheap kit from HF etc. The difference is, I stick mine in a drill
press, and at run at slow speed.... about 5 sheets at the time. Works
like a beauty, eh?
I think a few missed the point here, the object is "not" to make holes in
regular paper rather to align the holes on the paper to the holes on the
sander pad. I have a friend that ownes a DeWalt finish sander and the
sander kit provided a paper stamp to punch the holes in the paper in the
correct locations for that sander.
In article <[email protected]>, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
>inside all her shoes...
>
*sigh* even the best jokes can get botched in repeated re-tellings.
The original form of that yarn had her putting the label in her "heels".
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Robatoy wrote:
>> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it
>>>> should
>>>> be "this side up".
>>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>>> confusing.
>>> nobody to home
>>
>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
>> side you're on.
>
> Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
> inside all her shoes...
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto Solar
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Since winter is on it's way I will give a tip. "Don't eat yellow snow" ww
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/Re-A-Cleaver-Idea-244064-.htm
Nestor Kelebay wrote:
Yeah, since the West Nile Virus made it's way across North America, I've
also made it a practice not to stuff any sick, dying or dead birds up my
nose.
-------------------------------------
..in solidarity with the movement for change in Iran.
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/woodworking/Re-A-Cleaver-Idea-244064-.htm
Nestor Kelebay wrote:
Yeah, since the West Nile Virus made it's way across North America, I've
also made it a practice not to stuff any sick, dying or dead birds up my
nose.
-------------------------------------
..in solidarity with the movement for change in Iran.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:14:31 -0700, the infamous David Nebenzahl
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On 7/20/2009 7:18 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>
>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
>> other night.
>>
>> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>>
>> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
>> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
>I thought you were going to tell us how to make a knife.
>
>Don't you mean "clever"?
I thought it was very Cleaver, Wally. (NOW do you get it?)
[OK, so you didn't get it. Wally Cleaver was The Beave's brother in
Leave it to Beaver, a '50s TV program.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_Cleaver
>(How many others think Usenet is contributing to the decline and fall of
>basic spelling abilities?)
Nah, I wouldn't say it was contributing, just _exposing_ all the
maroons out there. (Bugs Bunny slang for "morons")
--
The only reason I would take up exercising is
so that I could hear heavy breathing again.
Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:14:31 -0700, the infamous David Nebenzahl
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>>On 7/20/2009 7:18 PM Lew Hodgett spake thus:
>>
>>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
>>> other night.
>>>
>
>
>>(How many others think Usenet is contributing to the decline and fall of
>>basic spelling abilities?)
>
> Nah, I wouldn't say it was contributing, just _exposing_ all the
> maroons out there. (Bugs Bunny slang for "morons")
>
>
Next big war we won't have to recruit Navajo code talkers: we can take
along a few grandchildren and let them text the messages.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
No job around the house is done until
you bleed on it.
On Jul 21, 10:33=A0am, FrozenNorth <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Upscale wrote:
> >>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
> >>>> "other way up" on them?
> >>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
> >>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it s=
hould
> >>> be "this side up".
> >> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
> >> wailed). =A0Whatever shall I do? =A0Now I am all atwitter. =A0This is =
SOOO
> >> confusing.
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 nobody to home
>
> > There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
> > is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
> > isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
> > side you're on.
>
> Is it reversed if you are in China?
> And how do they decide which side to mark on exports?
That's Australia, not China, you dummy!
Luigi
Robatoy wrote:
> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upscale wrote:
>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it should
>>> be "this side up".
>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>> confusing.
>> nobody to home
>
> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
> side you're on.
There is a down-side to everything...
<[email protected]> wrote:
>My Bosch pad sander came with a widget (though of inferior plastic)
>to
do the same.
Must be something rather recent with Bosch.
My last 3727, about 3 years old, didn't have one.
Lew
Swingman wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
>> other night.
>>
>> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>>
>> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
>> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>>
>> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
>> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>>
>> Application:
>>
>> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
>> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>>
>> Neat idea IMHO.
>
> Have had one for years ... got the idea in a magazine at least 15 years
> ago, maybe more. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow and post a link.
> Mine is a double, with holes in a plywood cover that mirrors the three
> dowels that hold the sandpaper/guide the ROS onto same.
>
> A picture oughta be worth at least a couple of hundred words ... :)
>
Gee sounds neat. You got plans for that sucker??
:-)
j4
Upscale wrote:
> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>> "other way up" on them?
>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>
> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it should
> be "this side up".
>
>
but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
confusing.
nobody to home
On Jul 21, 12:18=A0pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Upscale wrote:
> > "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
> >> "other way up" on them?
> >> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>
> > Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it sho=
uld
> > be "this side up".
>
> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
> wailed). =A0Whatever shall I do? =A0Now I am all atwitter. =A0This is SOO=
O
> confusing.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 nobody to home
There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
side you're on.
Robatoy wrote:
>
> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
> side you're on.
Designers should avoid that kind of ambiguity.
"This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
Robatoy wrote:
> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upscale wrote:
>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it should
>>> be "this side up".
>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>> confusing.
>> nobody to home
>
> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
> side you're on.
Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
inside all her shoes...
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DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Yeah, I didn't think it was that useful when I saw it in an old "methods
of work" compilation from Fine Woodworking about 10 years ago.
--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
Morris Dovey wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it
>>>> should
>>>> be "this side up".
>>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>>> confusing.
>>> nobody to home
>>
>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
>> side you're on.
>
> Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
> inside all her shoes...
>
Tits go in first?
HeyBub wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter
>> which side you're on.
>
> Designers should avoid that kind of ambiguity.
>
> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
As long as it also has the essential caveat "do not eat".
"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
>>
>
> As seen on a Claymore mine.
someone who had a spare:
http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2009/07/22/20090722landmine.html
c
HeyBub wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter
>> which side you're on.
>
> Designers should avoid that kind of ambiguity.
>
> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
------------
"Somebody seems to have got the wrong idea about charitable donations -
after they left a land mine in a charity donation box, forcing the
evacuation of a mall in Colorado.
"The rectangular, olive-green box with the words 'Front Toward Enemy' raised
the suspicions of Goodwill workers...
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Land_mine_generously_given_to_charity&in_article_id=708109&in_page_id=2
J. Clarke wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter
>>> which side you're on.
>>
>> Designers should avoid that kind of ambiguity.
>>
>> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
>
> As long as it also has the essential caveat "do not eat".
Or, for some military munitions, "Not a step"
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the
> other night.
>
> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>
> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>
> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>
> Application:
>
> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>
> Neat idea IMHO.
Have had one for years ... got the idea in a magazine at least 15 years
ago, maybe more. I'll take a picture of it tomorrow and post a link.
Mine is a double, with holes in a plywood cover that mirrors the three
dowels that hold the sandpaper/guide the ROS onto same.
A picture oughta be worth at least a couple of hundred words ... :)
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:23:50 -0700, the infamous "CW"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "This side toward enemy" is one example of doing it right.
>>
>
>As seen on a Claymore mine.
Claymores are my favorite "BB gun!" <arr, arr, arr>
--
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so that I could hear heavy breathing again.
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:43:14 -0500, Leon wrote:
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house" the other
>> night.
>>
>> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>>
>> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel pins
>> projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>>
>> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened to
>> match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>>
>> Application:
>>
>> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align dowels
>> with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>>
>> Neat idea IMHO.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>
> I never found it hard or necessary to align the holes that precicely.
Quite. If there is a problem, just stick a pencil into one hole on the
ROS and drop the sandpaper over that, through the corresponding hole
in the sandpaper disc. Aligning all the other holes is now merely a matter
of rotating the sheet.
Remember to remove pencil before operating the tool.
If that's too difficult (then maybe you shouldn't be using power tools :-),
just use another pencil in another hole - 2 reference points is all you'd
ever need.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:20:34 -0500, Upscale wrote:
>
> "pete" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> just use another pencil in another hole - 2 reference points is all you'd
>> ever need.
>
> Not quite. You have to find some way to not put the sandpaper on upsidedown.
> A $6000 optical reader should be sufficient.
>
you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
"other way up" on them?
(or better: "this side down" on the velco side).
Hmm, maybe there's a $100 tip-of-the-week in there somewhere.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:57:44 -0400, dadiOH wrote:
> pete wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:43:14 -0500, Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house"
>>>> the other night.
>>>>
>>>> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>>>>
>>>> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
>>>> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>>>>
>>>> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened
>>>> to match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>>>>
>>>> Application:
>>>>
>>>> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
>>>> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>>>>
>>>> Neat idea IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Lew
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never found it hard or necessary to align the holes that precicely.
>>
>> Quite. If there is a problem, just stick a pencil into one hole on the
>> ROS and drop the sandpaper over that, through the corresponding hole
>> in the sandpaper disc. Aligning all the other holes is now merely a
>> matter of rotating the sheet.
>
> Which direction is best, clockwise or counter clockwise? :)
>
Clockwise in the northern hemisphere, anti-clockwise in the southern.
What you do on the equator will probably invalidate your warranty.
WW wrote:
> "Morris Dovey"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Jul 21, 12:18 pm, jo4hn<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>>> "pete"<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> you mean your sandpaper discs don't come with the text:
>>>>>> "other way up" on them?
>>>>>> (or better: "this side down" on the velcro side).
>>>>> Actually, when you're using your sander, the velcro faces up, so it
>>>>> should
>>>>> be "this side up".
>>>> but but but... when I put new paper on, the sander is upside down (he
>>>> wailed). Whatever shall I do? Now I am all atwitter. This is SOOO
>>>> confusing.
>>>> nobody to home
>>>
>>> There is always a down-side to marking things 'up-side'. The up-side
>>> is that when marked 'up-side', the downside is that the down-side
>>> isn't marked 'downside' in most cases. That holds true no matter which
>>> side you're on.
>>
>> Hmm - this sounds akin to the blonde who used a marker to write "TGIF"
>> inside all her shoes...
>>
>> --
>> Morris Dovey
>> DeSoto Solar
>> DeSoto, Iowa USA
>> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
>
>
>
>
> Since winter is on it's way I will give a tip. "Don't eat yellow snow" ww
>
>
Not sure what a cleaver has to do with woodworking. Oh! It's about a
chopping block.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
A stitch in time would have confused
Einstein.
pete wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:43:14 -0500, Leon wrote:
>>
>> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Was watching an old "What is it" segment of "Ask this old house"
>>> the other night.
>>>
>>> A viewer had sent in a working prototype of his idea.
>>>
>>> A circular piece of wood 1/2"-3/4" thick with a group of 3/8" dowel
>>> pins projecting about 1/2" from a flat face.
>>>
>>> The dowels were arranged in a geometric pattern that just happened
>>> to match the dust pick up holes of his ROS.
>>>
>>> Application:
>>>
>>> Place sandpaper on gadget aligning holes with dowels, then align
>>> dowels with holes on ROS and seat paper.
>>>
>>> Neat idea IMHO.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>
>> I never found it hard or necessary to align the holes that precicely.
>
> Quite. If there is a problem, just stick a pencil into one hole on the
> ROS and drop the sandpaper over that, through the corresponding hole
> in the sandpaper disc. Aligning all the other holes is now merely a
> matter of rotating the sheet.
Which direction is best, clockwise or counter clockwise? :)
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