I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.
I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.
Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
Will
On Jan 27, 5:20=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net> wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote >
>
>
>
> > "Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> >> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> >> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> >> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of t=
he
> >> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
> >> locally.
> >> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> >> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" sp=
ade
> >> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It did=
n't
> >> work.
>
> >> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> >> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> >> =A0Will
>
> > Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.
>
> I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. =A0It ca=
rves
> easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.
I have carved candles before, got hot wax all over my hands, almost
set my hair on fire...I must have done it wrong...
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
I've seen devices that will taper down a candle to fit in a holder.
Also you could get a 9/16" spade bit and grind or file the sides down
to a slight taper (or even to cut a cylinder)for holes for the candle.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
>> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
>> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
>> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>> Will
>
>Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>from each side.
>Art
>
That is what I had to do on a project to obtain the correct diameter
hole. All it cost was a cheap drill bit to get the job done. Just
grind a little and drill a test hole and then grind a little more if
necessary. Just remember, you can't un-grind it!
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote >
> "Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
>> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
>> locally.
>> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
>> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>> Will
>
> Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.
I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. It carves
easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.
Wilfred Xavier Pickles <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
> too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
>
> Damn these odd-ball diameters!
>
> Thx,
> Will
>
Are metric bits available? I notice 17/32 is really close to 13.5mm, maybe
a 13 or 14mm bit would work?
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/inches-mm-conversion-d_751.html
Puckdropper
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote:
> The plan said .5" diameter, 5" hi. Just a half-size taper.
>
> I live in a good-size city, figgered they'd be easy to find.
>
> I couldn't find 'em anywhere. Most stores had full-size tapers
> and all kinds of fat candles and candles in glass. Target had
> 2 full shelves of that and nary a taper. Curious.
----------------------------
Give General Wax & Candle a call.
1-800-929-7867.
Lew
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:34:46 -0500, Ecnerwal
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.
>
>No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
>(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
>those in a size to suit.)
>
>Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
>router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
>tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
>roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
>side-cutting.
>
>Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
>mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.
No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
to disaster.
Thx,
Will
?
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
McMaster Carr has a brad point bit for $22.
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any
> locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
> work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.
Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
> the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
> any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
> spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
> It didn't work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
You've got the wrong sized candles.
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
>>the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.
>>
>>Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
>>forstner at any retail hardware store.
>
> It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
> too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
>
> Damn these odd-ball diameters!
>
> Thx,
> Will
The end of a candle is tapered. All commercial candle holders are tapered
for that reason. A strait hole, whether the candle fits it or not, will not
be secure.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> It should be easy enough to push a 17/32 wax candel into a 1/2 inch hole
> in hard maple. It's only 1/32 inch difference.
Depends on the wax though, remember that pure carnauba is harder than
concrete.
In article <[email protected]>,
Wilfred Xavier Pickles <[email protected]> wrote:
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
> work.
Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.
No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
those in a size to suit.)
Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
side-cutting.
Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.
--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:56:56 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
> On Jan 27, 5:20Â pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot
> net> wrote:
>> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote >
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>>
>> >> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> >> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> >> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
>> >> the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
>> >> any locally.
>> >> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> >> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
>> >> spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a
>> >> little. It didn't work.
>>
>> >> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> >> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>> >> Â Will
>>
>> > Heat the candle base and push it into 1/2" hole.
>>
>> I have seen candles carved to fit into a smaller holder as well. Â It
>> carves easily. Any kind of knife with a short blade should do.
>
>
> I have carved candles before, got hot wax all over my hands, almost set
> my hair on fire...I must have done it wrong...
Your supposed to wear gloves and hold it away from your face :)
basilisk
--
A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse
"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:e95c0651-739d-41e1-aaed-6cbd46340fb8@h16g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>I can't imagine 1/32" makes that much difference. Get a 9/16" bit,
> drill the hole, .... then wet the wood, to make it swell, if need be.
>
> Sonny
I would think that it would dry out and become loose again and add to that
it may split as it dries again.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
>> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
>> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
>> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>> Will
>
>Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>from each side.
Art has the winning answer there, Wee Willy. Spade bits are cheap and
grind very easily.
--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>from each side.
I had an old Irwin 5/8 that I ground down.
Crude but effective: I think it'll do the job.
Many Thanks,
Will
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
>the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.
>
>Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
>forstner at any retail hardware store.
It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
Damn these odd-ball diameters!
Thx,
Will
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:27:52 -0600, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
>> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
>> the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
>> any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32"
>> spade bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
>> It didn't work.
>>
>> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>
>
>You've got the wrong sized candles.
The plan said .5" diameter, 5" hi. Just a half-size taper.
I live in a good-size city, figgered they'd be easy to find.
I couldn't find 'em anywhere. Most stores had full-size tapers
and all kinds of fat candles and candles in glass. Target had
2 full shelves of that and nary a taper. Curious.
What I got at a Catholic supply store (alleged 17/32" x 5") has
got to do.
Will
On Jan 27, 4:12=A0pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles <[email protected]>
wrote:
I've taken a spade bit and ground it down to a needed size - and, you
can make it a taper bit in the process. Drill your half-inch hole,
then enlarge with the spade bit. If these candle holders are for your
own use, you could make the half-inch hole, cut a kerf, insert/glue a
bit of old hack saw blade and use it to cut teh candle bases down to
size - I think they sell something like this for making dowels.
On Jan 27, 4:12=A0pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locall=
y.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
> work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> =A0 Will
Bushings. What's the OD on 1/2" copper pipe?
Wilfred, google for "candle sharpener". Like a pencil sharpener for candles.
About two bucks apiece or a little more. For example:
http://www.dlightonline.com/-strse-829/candle-shaper%2C-Candle-Sharpener%2C/Detail.bok
Tom D
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
But I've got some with 17/32" base.
I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
work.
Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
Will
My thoughts too.
When I did my router table I went to woodcraft and picked up a 13mm for
my 1/2 bits. Made the fit perfect. 14mm might be the better alternative.
I doubt the candles are perfect.
On 1/27/2011 6:47 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Wilfred Xavier Pickles<[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
>> too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
>>
>> Damn these odd-ball diameters!
>>
>> Thx,
>> Will
>>
>
> Are metric bits available? I notice 17/32 is really close to 13.5mm, maybe
> a 13 or 14mm bit would work?
>
> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/inches-mm-conversion-d_751.html
>
> Puckdropper
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>from each side.
Not a bad idea. If a local store has the 9/16" spade, my bench-grinder
will likely do the job.
Thanks,
Will
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
> work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
from each side.
Art
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:20:06 -0500, Nova wrote:
> Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more) from
>>each side.
>>Art
>>
>>
> This would be my choice. I'd grind it to match the taper of the candles
> base as needed.
That, including the taper, is the way I've seen it handled. Haven't done
it myself, but some turners that command high prices for their
candlesticks do it that way. Grinding down a spade bit isn't very
difficult.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On 1/27/11 10:55 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus"<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>>from each side.
>
> I had an old Irwin 5/8 that I ground down.
>
> Crude but effective: I think it'll do the job.
>
> Many Thanks,
> Will
I've ground down spade bits before and even put a taper on them.
It's pretty easy to sharpen the side enough to get a decent hole.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Most commercial candles have a tapered base. If you have much of
this to do, buy an extra spade bit or get an old one and file
and/or grind the taper on the bit. Do some marking on the bit
before you start and take equal amounts of material from each
side. Once you get it right, it is always ready for candle work.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
Keep the whole world singing . . .
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
>
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type
> folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the
> base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
> any locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a
> 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little.
> It didn't
> work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another
> way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
[...snip...]
>
>No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
>All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
>whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
>to disaster.
>
> Thx,
> Will
With a template and a bearing guided bit, it could be done accurately
and safely. On the template, drill a 1/2" hole and enlarge it with a
dowel wrapped with sandpaper, or whatever.
With the holder, drill the holes to 1/2" to remove almost all the
waste, place the template over the hole (with double stick tape, or
make a jig to fix the holder into place) and enlarge the hole with the
router.
On 1/27/2011 4:12 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
>
> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
> work.
>
> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
Will:
I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.
Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
forstner at any retail hardware store.
~Mark.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:50:01 -0800, "Artemus" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>> candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>>
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
>> candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
>> But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>>
>> I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
>> bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
>> work.
>>
>> Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>>
>> Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>>
>> Will
>
>Get a 9/16" (or bigger) spade bit and grind or file 1/64" (or more)
>from each side.
>Art
>
This would be my choice. I'd grind it to match the taper of the
candles base as needed.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected] wrote:
>> One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of
>> the candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find
>> any locally. But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
> I've seen devices that will taper down a candle to fit in a holder.
> Also you could get a 9/16" spade bit and grind or file the sides down
> to a slight taper (or even to cut a cylinder)for holes for the candle.
Now THAT'S thinking outside the box. Good idea.
We've gotten so far away from making our own tools that you were the first
to come up with the idea.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:47:10 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
>>>the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.
>>>
>>>Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
>>>forstner at any retail hardware store.
>>
>> It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
>> too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
>>
>> Damn these odd-ball diameters!
>>
>> Thx,
>> Will
>The end of a candle is tapered. All commercial candle holders are tapered
>for that reason. A strait hole, whether the candle fits it or not, will not
>be secure.
>
In which case a spade bit ground to a taper to match the candle should
be the answer.
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:12:26 -0600, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I've got a little John Nelson plan for a dinner-table-type folding
>candle-holder that's full of "Gotcha's".
>
>One is candle size. I need to drill hard curly-maple for the base of the
>candles. Nelson sez to use candles with .5" base: I can't find any locally.
>But I've got some with 17/32" base.
>
>I have no bits greater than .5". I don't *think* they make a 17/32" spade
>bit. I tried wiggling the .5" bit to enlarge the hole a little. It didn't
>work.
>
>Do I have to special-order a 17/32" drill bit? Is there another way.
>
>Apologies for the nickel/dime question.
>
> Will
Any size drum sander.. or make your own, as suggested..
A 1/2 drum sander is only a few bucks and will let you customize the
hole to the candle..
"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:34:46 -0500, Ecnerwal
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Chuck it up in your lathe and cut the hole bigger.
>>
>>No lathe - dowel (slit) and coarse sandpaper - grind the hole bigger
>>(cheat and use small sanding drums for dremel, etc if you happen to have
>>those in a size to suit.)
>>
>>Or wiggle the 1/2" drill with greater effort. Or get in there with a
>>router bit (maintain control, and practice on scrap if you have never
>>tried that particular application of a router.) Roto-zip bits (no actual
>>roto-zip tool required) provide yet another possible approach to
>>side-cutting.
>>
>>Or - modify the candles - they are wax, easy to cut/sand/heat and
>>mold/scrape them down to 1/2 inch if you like.
>
> No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
> All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
> whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
> to disaster.
>
> Thx,
> Will
>
Buy a spade bit a little bigger than you need. Grind it to the size and
tapper you need. Drill with regular care.
--
Jim in NC
Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
>
> No lathe. Each holder takes 6 candles. I'll make about 6 holders.
> All but 1 will be gifted. I don't want giftees to have to
> whittle candles. The router bit thing is, for me, an invitation
> to disaster.
>
Perfect excuse to buy a new tool.
But don't lathe the holder, chuck up the candles and have a go.
On 1/27/2011 6:03 PM, Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:19:07 -0500, Woody<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'd also suggest using a forstner bit rather than a spade bit to drill
>> the holes. You'll get a much cleaner hole, particularly in curly maple.
>>
>> Per the other suggestions, a 1/2" bit should work and you can get a 1/2"
>> forstner at any retail hardware store.
>
> It doesn't fit. I tried 1/2 and 5/8" forstner. 1/2 is very noticibly
> too small, 5/8 is very noticibly too big.
>
> Damn these odd-ball diameters!
>
> Thx,
> Will
Amazon has 17/32" bits here:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=17/32%22+drill+bit&x=0&y=0