When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone signal
that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the shop
when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear the
phone?
(The other) George
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
I hardly use the home phone any more - my cell phone lives in my
pocket, set on vibrate. Of course I ignore it if I'm in the middle of
anything potentially dangerous involving power tools, but it doesn't
vibrate sharply enough to startle me or anything. Seems to work for
me.
Andy
On Jul 30, 10:17 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Nothing. Don't want to, either. That's why I have an answering machine. I
> > don't have a phone in my shop, and if I ever put one in, it will have the
> > ringer disabled. The LAST thing I want is to be startled while I'm
> > operating
> > machinery.
>
> I agree in principle, but I do carry the phone to the shop. I want to be
> able to call 911 if needed.
Ditto above emergency only
On Jul 31, 9:05 am, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
> I have CharterNet VOIP. They installed a box that replaced my old wired phone junction box and conected my incmming wires to it. All my phones work normally - wired and wireless. I think you might COMPLAIN to Vonage or the ISP and see if they don't have a solution.
On Jul 30, 10:18 am, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
> powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>
> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone signal
> that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the shop
> when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear the
> phone?
>
> (The other) George
Our VOIP from Charter Net came with a box that took the CABLE input
and provided the POTS (tip and ting?) connector to which we simply
attached our existing phone wires. We did NOT have to change phones,
nor ringers, flashers, fax nor answering machine to get the service.
Maybe you should call the VONAGE folks and complain. They may have a
solution as he feature is BIG FOR DEAF PEOPLE which is a handicap and
likely covered by some statute(s) somewhere.
In article <[email protected]>,
George <[email protected]> wrote:
>When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
>powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
You've got a vonage box, with a wired connection to the wireless base-station,
no?
If so just run that same wiring out to the 'same old' flashing light in
the shop.
Or did you have some kind of 'ultra fancy' light that reacted to the
-sound- of a ringing phone nearby -- as distinct from something that
reacted to the ringing signal on the phone wire?
In article <[email protected]>,
Patriarch <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> George <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless
>>>handsets powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light
>>>in the shop.
>>
>> You've got a vonage box, with a wired connection to the wireless
>> base-station, no?
>>
>> If so just run that same wiring out to the 'same old' flashing light
>> in the shop.
>>
>> Or did you have some kind of 'ultra fancy' light that reacted to the
>> -sound- of a ringing phone nearby -- as distinct from something that
>> reacted to the ringing signal on the phone wire?
>>
>
>Vonage MAY NOT have that signal identified in their box. Not all VoIP
>services do. You'd likely want to check, if it were important to you.
signal 'identified'? *WHAT* signal??
Anything that supports a POTS phone uses a standard 2-wire connection to
the phone.
If the Vonage adapter will ring a _phone_ plugged into it, it *WILL* activate
any other 'direct connect to the telephone wiring' device that reacts to
ringing. Such a device 'looks like' a regular POTS phone to whatever is on
the other end of the wiring..
Radio shack used to sell 'em, under the name "Fone Flasher", to mention one
of the most widely available ones. Unfortunately, it seems to have been
discontinued several years ago.
Mon, Jul 30, 2007, 10:18am [email protected] (George) doth query:
<snip> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
<snip>
Doan gots no steenkin' phone in the shop.
Not 100% accurate. I do hav a el cheapo pre-paid cell phone for
emergency use. Carry it in a pants pocket, turned off, unless I desire
to use it. $20 for the phone, including charger, about $5-10 a month
service. If you think you "need" to know about incoming calls, I go
along with the guys who say answering machine - in the house. My last
answering machine died and I never replaced it.
The old farmer finally got a phone. His buddy was over playing
checkers, when the phone rang. The old farmer just sat there. Finally
his buddy asks him if he's going to answer it. The farmer says, "Nope,
I got it for my convenience, not for someone else's.".
When I answer my phone, and it's someone I don't know thier voice,
I ask, "What you sellin'?". Then I tell them I don't what it, to take
my number off their call list, then I hang up. Do you really thinkI I'd
want crap calls like that when I'm in my shop?
JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso
Thanks Roy for your quick note. I just talked with Plantronics, and the
indicator light you sent me to only works with one of their headsets which
only work with hardwired phones, so, in this case, no dice.
"Roy Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless
>> handsets
>> powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>>
>> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>>
>> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone
>> signal
>> that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the
>> shop
>> when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear
>> the
>> phone?
>>
>> (The other) George
>
> Plantronics makes all kinds of phone stuff. This might be what you're
> looking for:
>
> http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/cat29880043/cat29880
> 038/prod5460024
In article <[email protected]>, henry <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jul 30, 10:17 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> > Nothing. Don't want to, either. That's why I have an answering machine. I
>> > don't have a phone in my shop, and if I ever put one in, it will have the
>> > ringer disabled. The LAST thing I want is to be startled while I'm
>> > operating
>> > machinery.
>>
>> I agree in principle, but I do carry the phone to the shop. I want to be
>> able to call 911 if needed.
>
>Ditto above emergency only
IMO, having a phone *with a ringer* in the shop makes you more likely to
*need* to call 911. Someday, I'll put one in, but I'm not in a big rush to do
so, and when I do, I'll disable the ringer. My shop's in the basement, and
there's already a phone only ten or twelve steps away from the shop door if I
need it.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
George wrote:
> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless
> handsets powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing
> light in the shop.
>
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
I ignore the phone and use an answering machine :)
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My Panasonic cordless phone (plugged into my vonage network adapter) has
a light on the end of the antenna that flashes when the phone rings.
IIRC the phones were pretty cheap at Circuit City.
George wrote:
> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
> powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>
> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone signal
> that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the shop
> when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear the
> phone?
>
> (The other) George
>
>
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless
> handsets powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in
> the shop.
>
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>
> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone
> signal that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in
> the shop when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I
> can't hear the phone?
>
> (The other) George
I go to the workshop to get away from things and have some me time. The
phone stays in the house.
[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> George <[email protected]> wrote:
>>When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless
>>handsets powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light
>>in the shop.
>
> You've got a vonage box, with a wired connection to the wireless
> base-station, no?
>
> If so just run that same wiring out to the 'same old' flashing light
> in the shop.
>
> Or did you have some kind of 'ultra fancy' light that reacted to the
> -sound- of a ringing phone nearby -- as distinct from something that
> reacted to the ringing signal on the phone wire?
>
Vonage MAY NOT have that signal identified in their box. Not all VoIP
services do. You'd likely want to check, if it were important to you.
Patriarch
In article <[email protected]>, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
>powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>
>What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
Nothing. Don't want to, either. That's why I have an answering machine. I
don't have a phone in my shop, and if I ever put one in, it will have the
ringer disabled. The LAST thing I want is to be startled while I'm operating
machinery.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:18:34 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
>powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>
>What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>
>Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone signal
>that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the shop
>when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear the
>phone?
>
>(The other) George
>
Our cordless setup has a flasher on the handset to let you know that the phone
is ringing, if you can't hear it...
As most of the time I DON'T hear it, I'm glad that it also blinks when someone
leaves a message..
When we lived in the States, I had the base unit in the shop, so that I could
use a ringer/flasher from radio shack... now, I just let the wife answer it,
it's usually for her anyway.. *g*
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Hoosierpopi <[email protected]> writes:
>Our VOIP from Charter Net came with a box that took the CABLE input
>and provided the POTS (tip and ting?) connector
Tip and Ring. Think phone plug, one conductor is connected to the
tip, the other to the ring. Old convention Red = Ring = Right. (the
red (ring) conductor would be on the right side of a connection block).
scott
George wrote:
> Thanks Roy for your quick note. I just talked with Plantronics, and the
> indicator light you sent me to only works with one of their headsets which
> only work with hardwired phones, so, in this case, no dice.
...
Unfortunately, no direct input for the wireless other than the set here
has a blinky red light after a message is received (that's real annoying
and I've never learned how to retrieve messages from the d---'d thing :(
). :)
If it's a business phone and prompt response is important, guess getting
into habit to check for messages would be the ticket...
--
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Nothing. Don't want to, either. That's why I have an answering machine. I
> don't have a phone in my shop, and if I ever put one in, it will have the
> ringer disabled. The LAST thing I want is to be startled while I'm
> operating
> machinery.
I agree in principle, but I do carry the phone to the shop. I want to be
able to call 911 if needed.
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:52:17 -0400, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Mon, Jul 30, 2007, 10:18am [email protected] (George) doth query:
><snip> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
><snip>
>
> Doan gots no steenkin' phone in the shop.
>
> Not 100% accurate. I do hav a el cheapo pre-paid cell phone for
>emergency use. Carry it in a pants pocket, turned off, unless I desire
>to use it. $20 for the phone, including charger, about $5-10 a month
>service.
Damn good idea, bro...
I did the same, back when I had a cell.. the wife is in charge of it now, since
I don't call anyone from Baja..
Another thing about emergency use... It's recommended that you program a
someone's number in the phone to notify in case of emergency..
Make the name in your phonebook ICE...emergency personnel are trained to look
for the number if the person in trouble has a cell phone..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 9:38am (EDT-3) [email protected]
(mac=A0davis) doth sayeth:
<snip> It's recommended that you program a someone's number in the phone
to notify in case of emergency.. Make the name in your phonebook
ICE...emergency personnel are trained to look for the number if the
person in trouble has a cell phone..
I can list numbers, which I've done. I have no idea what ICE is. So
much info to absorb, so little concern about absorbing most of it. I
think I'll just list my son's number, and label it, CALL IN CASE OF
EMERGENCY; that ought to cover it.
JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso
[email protected] (J T) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Tue, Jul 31, 2007, 9:38am (EDT-3) [email protected]
> (mac davis) doth sayeth:
> <snip> It's recommended that you program a someone's number in the
> phone to notify in case of emergency.. Make the name in your phonebook
> ICE...emergency personnel are trained to look for the number if the
> person in trouble has a cell phone..
>
> I can list numbers, which I've done. I have no idea what ICE is.
ICE is frozen water. Since it's capitolized, it's being emphasized in
some matter, such as ICE CREAM! It's often used to sooth sports
injuries, so if you see someone injured playing ice hockey remember he's
got an advantage if he gets hurt. It's only an inch or so to the ice
for him. ;-)
On cell phones, a number labeled ICE is for someone else to call In Case
of Emergency. This way an EMT doesn't have to spend time calling
everyone in your phone to try to help you.
> So
> much info to absorb, so little concern about absorbing most of it. I
> think I'll just list my son's number, and label it, CALL IN CASE OF
> EMERGENCY; that ought to cover it.
>
Here's the keystrokes to type that out on my cell phone keypad:
222 2 555 555 # 444 66 # 222 2 7777 33 # 666 333 # 33 6 33 777 4 33 66
222 999
As opposed to "ICE":
444 222 33
>
> JOAT
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso
>
Puckdropper
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Wed, Aug 1, 2007, 5:36am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth wisely counsel:
ICE is frozen water. Since it's capitolized, it's being emphasized in
some matter, such as ICE CREAM! <snip>
Mmmm, ice cream. Best explaination I'v had in quite awhile. Mmmm
ice cream. LOL Thanks.
JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso
Puckdropper wrote:
>
> On cell phones, a number labeled ICE is for someone else to call In Case
> of Emergency. This way an EMT doesn't have to spend time calling
> everyone in your phone to try to help you.
Do real EMT's actually check, or is that an urban legend? Anybody here
an EMT?
Personally, I travel with a laminated card listing contact, insurance,
and medical information, as well as my driver's license in my money
clip. Extra copies of the card and laminated photocopies of my driver's
license are also in my bicycle ID packets, my kayak, and my flight bag.
I figure if the cards are obliterated the phone won't be much good, either.
If real EMT's say the ICE thing is the real deal, I guess it can't hurt.
George wrote:
>
>
> We're not cops, so we can't go through your property legally without
> your permission. That's why having the information in a public place
> like the fridge is such a good idea. You may not be able to answer the
> questions on your own, and the emergency numbers and diagnosis by
> medication may be all the history we can get. Also a good idea to have
> any medical alert in the form of a necklace, as the primary survey runs
> top to bottom, and that'll be noticed.
Thanks!
I carry a clear plastic Ziploc sandwich bag when cycling that contains
my license, insurance info, kin and primary Dr. contact info, some basic
medical info (like "No known med allergies" and my blood type) and $10.
I never knew you guys can't open that.
I teach cycling classes, and will make sure to add the necklace reminder
to the course. I've had cops in the classes on many occasions, and they
hadn't mentioned the property angle, so this is great stuff to know.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > We're not cops, so we can't go through your property legally without
>> > your permission. That's why having the information in a public place
>> > like the fridge is such a good idea.
>
> I have to believe though that if one is receiving medical attention and
> the
> cause of the distress is not apparent, then an EMT or a doctor in an
> emerge
> will see if there's any information in a wallet. In actuality, I've seen
> it
> happen while waiting for treatment in an emergency ward.
>
> Of course, it's up here in Canada I've seen it so I don't know how the
> same
> emergency personnel would act down in the US where lawsuits are more
> commonplace. As far as the bracelet goes, I tried one for a short period
> on
> my wrist and it kept getting caught when I was rolling around in my
> wheelchair. The neck type was irritating, so I don't wear any med alert
> stuff and have all the necessary information in my wallet. Maybe I'm at
> risk, but so be it, I've taken all the precautions I'm willing to take.
>
>
We have an "implied consent" statute which covers the unconscious, and all
minors in absence of parent, but it's strictly for medical treatment. I've
used it a few times, even waiting until a patient I knew was about to crash
did so so I could treat them. Cops, on the other hand, can do things like
put people in protective custody if they seem a danger to themselves or
others, determine if they're too drunk to give "informed consent," and do
the same with their personal property.
Patient belongings are routinely collected in the Emergency Department, but
I wouldn't want to be the caregiver of record when someone claims they had
fifteen hundred bucks in their wallet before I picked them up!
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Puckdropper wrote:
>>
>> On cell phones, a number labeled ICE is for someone else to call In Case
>> of Emergency. This way an EMT doesn't have to spend time calling
>> everyone in your phone to try to help you.
>
> Do real EMT's actually check, or is that an urban legend? Anybody here an
> EMT?
>
> Personally, I travel with a laminated card listing contact, insurance, and
> medical information, as well as my driver's license in my money clip.
> Extra copies of the card and laminated photocopies of my driver's license
> are also in my bicycle ID packets, my kayak, and my flight bag.
>
> I figure if the cards are obliterated the phone won't be much good,
> either.
>
> If real EMT's say the ICE thing is the real deal, I guess it can't hurt.
We're not cops, so we can't go through your property legally without your
permission. That's why having the information in a public place like the
fridge is such a good idea. You may not be able to answer the questions on
your own, and the emergency numbers and diagnosis by medication may be all
the history we can get. Also a good idea to have any medical alert in the
form of a necklace, as the primary survey runs top to bottom, and that'll be
noticed.
"B A R R Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > We're not cops, so we can't go through your property legally without
> > your permission. That's why having the information in a public place
> > like the fridge is such a good idea.
I have to believe though that if one is receiving medical attention and the
cause of the distress is not apparent, then an EMT or a doctor in an emerge
will see if there's any information in a wallet. In actuality, I've seen it
happen while waiting for treatment in an emergency ward.
Of course, it's up here in Canada I've seen it so I don't know how the same
emergency personnel would act down in the US where lawsuits are more
commonplace. As far as the bracelet goes, I tried one for a short period on
my wrist and it kept getting caught when I was rolling around in my
wheelchair. The neck type was irritating, so I don't wear any med alert
stuff and have all the necessary information in my wallet. Maybe I'm at
risk, but so be it, I've taken all the precautions I'm willing to take.
"Puckdropper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On cell phones, a number labeled ICE is for someone else to call In Case
> of Emergency. This way an EMT doesn't have to spend time calling
> everyone in your phone to try to help you.
>
Use the refrigerator for something besides an art gallery.
http://www.folife.org/
Keep the meds list updated!
Par wrote:
> B A R R Y <[email protected]>:
>> Do real EMT's actually check, or is that an urban legend? Anybody here
>> an EMT?
>
> In my case they'd have a fun time trying to guess the PIN before it
> locks down hard.
>
> /Par
>
Come to think of it, my phone also locks after a period of inactivity.
B A R R Y <[email protected]>:
> Do real EMT's actually check, or is that an urban legend? Anybody here
> an EMT?
In my case they'd have a fun time trying to guess the PIN before it
locks down hard.
/Par
--
Par [email protected]
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In article <[email protected]>,
"George" <[email protected]> wrote:
> When we changed from a hard-wired phone system to a set of wireless handsets
> powered by Vonage, I lost my phone-triggered flashing light in the shop.
>
> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>
> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone signal
> that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in the shop
> when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I can't hear the
> phone?
>
> (The other) George
Plantronics makes all kinds of phone stuff. This might be what you're
looking for:
http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/cat29880043/cat29880
038/prod5460024
efgh wrote:
>> What do you guys do to hear, or see, that the phone is ringing?
>>
>> Does anyone know of a gizmo that can be triggered by a wireless phone
>> signal that would flash a light (not necessarily the overhead lights) in
>> the shop when the saw, or the DC, or the lathe, etc., is running and I
>> can't hear the phone?
>>
>> (The other) George
> I go to the workshop to get away from things and have some me time. The
> phone stays in the house.
I have a hardwired phone on both sides of my shop. It's for my convenience. If
I can't hear it, too bad.
--
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