RH

"Rob H."

23/04/2009 5:31 AM

What is it? Set 281

Might be another difficult set this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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KM

"Kerry Montgomery"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 3:43 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> 1599) I would like higher resolution in the images so I could check
>> some ideas --
>
> You may not still want another photo of this piece since someone posted a
> link to the answer, but a larger image can be seen at this address:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album10/pic1599b.jpg
>
>
> There were correct replies for five of the six this week, the rest of the
> answers can be seen here:
>
> http://answers281-a.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Rob,
As always, thanks very much for posting these photos and answers. Based on
my experience with the Forest Service and a 1601., I have to take strong
exception to the text,"...there wouldn't be any discomfort for the user..."
:-)
Kerry

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 2:55 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

1601 is an Indian Fire Pump.

That's I got...

SM

"Stupendous Man"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 8:49 AM

> 1601 - Back breaking SOB of an "Indian Tank". Used for fighting brush
> and grass fires mainly. They can also be used to spray other thin
> liquids. That one is a true Indian Tank but it's missing the front decal
> with the information on it. They are nasty to wear and use because if
> you slip and land on the tank it will hurt you. How many would you like?
> We just threw out 10 of them.


I keep one on the back of my Jeep all summer long.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

kk

kfvorwerk

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 3:05 AM

On Apr 22, 11:31=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1598. I think it's off a carriage or wagon. I couldn't find it in the
carriage catalogs but I seem to remember one from when I worked at
Middleton Place in SC.
1599. I think it's the holder for the receiving end of of a telegraph.
Karl

Jj

Jesse

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 9:00 AM

On Apr 23, 5:31=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

1598 I would guess it's a hitch for a piece of farm equiptment. Maybe
a cultivator or something else that you would have to adjust alot.
Kinda handy having the wrench be the drawpin too. If that is what it
is.

1600 Looks like it could be some sort of hog catcher. The D part
would go over the snout.

1601 It looks like a backpack sprayer but I don't see a pump to
pressurize it. It looks to be gravity fed. I am not sure how you would
use it if that's the case.

Rs

RoyJ

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 10:20 PM

1598 is a bracket for adjusting the pull angles on a moldboard plow
1601 is a farmers flame thrower for burning weeds. Load it with
kerosene, light the lower tip, pump the barrel to spew out a flaming
stream. Same unit is used for fighting grass fires, uses water. Is a
real arm buster to run it for several hours.

Rob H. wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 6:42 AM

"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> 1601 Bug sprayer. (sprays insecticide, not bugs) Might also be used
> to spray herbicide on weeds.
>

1610 looks more like an "Indian"... a backpack firefighting tank with
trombone-slide pump.

I lugged one of those around for a few summers in Florida, fighting
brush fires.

LLoyd

rM

[email protected] (Matthew Russotto)

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 9:50 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Might be another difficult set this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

1597: Hour hand
1598: Gate latch
1599: A scoop for getting stuff out of a bin. The rest of the stuff
is to keep the scoop from getting lost/stolen
1600: Window-washing handle
1601: Looks like it ought to be for distributing pesticide or
herbicide, but I'd expect a way to pressurize it. Or a
flamethrower...


1602: Folding coathook.
--
It's times like these which make me glad my bank is Dial-a-Mattress

kk

kfvorwerk

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 3:20 AM

On Apr 23, 10:22=A0am, Northe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1599: Definitely a swing-arm resonator for a telegraph sounder. Here's a
> =A0 picture of one:
>
> <http://chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/2035.gif>
>
> It's described on
>
> <http://chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/m3000.htm> item number 2035
>
> Northe

Thanks. I couldn't remember what it was called.
Karl

HR

Howard R Garner

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 7:28 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1599 Holds a telephone or perhaps a telegraphic sounder
1601 Looks a lot like a backpack for fighting brush fires.

Howard Garner

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 2:38 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Might be another difficult set this week:

Here we go...all guesses, some may be likely, some not

1597 - A dashpot to slow down a self-closing door (missing the piston
rod, or else with said rod retracted), possibly?

1598 - The famous Acme multi-bracket, which replaces sixteen different
specialized brackets. What other piece of hardware could both hold a
rudder on a boat and support a mirror over a chest of drawers?

1599 - Support bracket for an old telephone (of the original sort, with
a built-in mouthpiece and separate cabled earpiece) or something
similar, presumably to be attached to a desktop, allowing it to be swung
out of the way when not needed and positioned handily when in use.

1600 - Puller for a small aircraft, which fits onto the nosewheel and
allows one to both steer and move the vehicle manually, as when putting
it into or out of a hanger

1601 - Portable sprayer for agricultural use, presumably operated by
extending and retracting the spray head part, trombone style.

1602 - Stretcher for something, possibly window screens?

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 6:00 AM

1599 Telephone Stand. Picture this thing screwed to a wall near a couple
of desks, with one of those old two-piece upright phones on it. The clerks
with head-visors and arm bands swing this thing back and forth to share the
phone.

1601 Bug sprayer. (sprays insecticide, not bugs) Might also be used to
spray herbicide on weeds.

"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 9:07 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

1597 -

1598 - Adjustable fixture for wooden scaffolding?

1599 - Swinging telephone stand

1600 - Depends on what it is made of, there is a fire tool that looks
like that, used for pushing up/tearing down suspended ceilings. I have
also seen something like it that was made to carry sheet goods

1601 - Back breaking SOB of an "Indian Tank". Used for fighting brush
and grass fires mainly. They can also be used to spray other thin
liquids. That one is a true Indian Tank but it's missing the front decal
with the information on it. They are nasty to wear and use because if
you slip and land on the tank it will hurt you. How many would you like?
We just threw out 10 of them.

1602 - Some type of wood clamp?

--
Steve W.

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 1:26 PM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
> "Jesse" wrote: 1598 I would guess it's a hitch for a piece of farm
> equiptment. Maybe
> a cultivator or something else that you would have to adjust alot.
> Kinda handy having the wrench be the drawpin too. If that is what it
> is.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It *IS* a hitch for a piece of farm equipment--probably a plow. The arc of
> holes along the side allows the farmer to adjust the angle, which controls
> how deep the plow digs. It could also go on a lister.*
> ____________________
> *For you city slickers, a lister turns the soil both ways, and makes a
> furrow.

It's an adjusting connector, agreed. Has both vertical and
angle/horizontal adjustment, but I don't think it's the direct pull
hitch at all--not nearly heavy enough unless it's a whole lot bigger
than it looks in the photo.

Specifically what I'm not sure, but definitely imo _not_ turning plow or
planter lister arrangement.

Cultivator or other light work attachment (needing significant
adjustment, obviously :) ) perhaps, but I'm still thinking its a
connection, not a drawpiece.

--

dn

dpb

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 3:41 PM

Andrew Erickson wrote:
...

> 1601 - Portable sprayer for agricultural use, presumably operated by
> extending and retracting the spray head part, trombone style.

Actually, I think it's a gas/kerosene flame weedburner from the size of
the hose and the head.

> 1602 - Stretcher for something, possibly window screens?

Yeah, but what some other views of this guy would probably help determine...

--

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 8:54 PM


"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Andrew Erickson wrote:
> ...
>
>> 1601 - Portable sprayer for agricultural use, presumably operated by
>> extending and retracting the spray head part, trombone style.
>
> Actually, I think it's a gas/kerosene flame weedburner from the size of
> the hose and the head.
>
>> 1602 - Stretcher for something, possibly window screens?
>
> Yeah, but what some other views of this guy would probably help
> determine...



I forgot that I had another view of it, I just added this photo to the web
site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album10/pic1602ba.jpg


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 11:54 PM

Stupendous Man wrote:
>> 1601 - Back breaking SOB of an "Indian Tank". Used for fighting brush
>> and grass fires mainly. They can also be used to spray other thin
>> liquids. That one is a true Indian Tank but it's missing the front decal
>> with the information on it. They are nasty to wear and use because if
>> you slip and land on the tank it will hurt you. How many would you like?
>> We just threw out 10 of them.
>
>
> I keep one on the back of my Jeep all summer long.


I keep two of the soft bags in my rig, because of the way they form to
you they don't dig in the straps like the old cans.

I MAY polish up a couple of the ones we still have and toss them on the
parade rig. We just put a larger tanker into service and the department
we got it from "included" 4 tin tanks with it....

Just for fun I just looked at the prices of NEW Indian Tank 90 series...
$130-$250.00 Maybe I should clean up a couple and Bay-em....
http://snipurl.com/gl3mi



--
Steve W.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 4:25 PM

> 1599) I would like higher resolution in the images so I could check
> some ideas --

You may not still want another photo of this piece since someone posted a
link to the answer, but a larger image can be seen at this address:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album10/pic1599b.jpg


There were correct replies for five of the six this week, the rest of the
answers can be seen here:

http://answers281-a.blogspot.com/


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 4:26 PM


"Leon Fisk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:54:13 -0400, "Rob H."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>I forgot that I had another view of it, I just added this photo to the web
>>site:
>>
>>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album10/pic1602ba.jpg
>>
>>
>>Rob
>
> Item 1602 is a siding or clap-board gauge. See:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=370019
>
> --
> Leon Fisk
> Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
> Remove no.spam for email


Thanks, I knew what it was but didn't have the patent for it.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 6:57 PM

>> There were correct replies for five of the six this week, the rest of the
>> answers can be seen here:
>>
>> http://answers281-a.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
> Rob,
> As always, thanks very much for posting these photos and answers. Based on
> my experience with the Forest Service and a 1601., I have to take strong
> exception to the text,"...there wouldn't be any discomfort for the
> user..." :-)
> Kerry


Maybe I should change that to read "...it wouldn't be too cold on the user's
back." From your post and some of the others, it sounds like these were not
very popular with firefighters, hopefully they've found a better device to
take it's place by now.


Rob

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

25/04/2009 10:28 PM

Rob H. wrote:
>>> There were correct replies for five of the six this week, the rest of
>>> the answers can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://answers281-a.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>> Rob,
>> As always, thanks very much for posting these photos and answers.
>> Based on my experience with the Forest Service and a 1601., I have to
>> take strong exception to the text,"...there wouldn't be any discomfort
>> for the user..." :-)
>> Kerry
>
>
> Maybe I should change that to read "...it wouldn't be too cold on the
> user's back." From your post and some of the others, it sounds like
> these were not very popular with firefighters, hopefully they've found a
> better device to take it's place by now.
>
>
> Rob

Well they have come a LONG way. the new items are the Scotty water vest
or the newer vinyl version of the Indian Tank.
The first one is a PVC vest that holds 8 gallons of water and you wear
it like a vest. It wraps around to help you keep your balance and carry
the weight easier.
The second version is basically a bag with straps that you wear as a
backpack and carries 5 gallons.

However the old metal units are still sold and used by many departments.
The BIG thing with the metal tanks is that they don't conform to the
user. If you fall it is like landing on a concrete block.

Advantages are that they can take more heat than the plastic ones, they
are easier to fill and they can be placed in racks and used, they also
are MUCH easier to repair if they leak.

But I STILL HATE THEM....

--
Steve W.

LF

Leon Fisk

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 3:13 PM

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:54:13 -0400, "Rob H."
<[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>
>I forgot that I had another view of it, I just added this photo to the web
>site:
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album10/pic1602ba.jpg
>
>
>Rob

Item 1602 is a siding or clap-board gauge. See:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=370019

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email

Nn

Northe

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 1:22 PM

1599: Definitely a swing-arm resonator for a telegraph sounder. Here's a
picture of one:

<http://chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/2035.gif>

It's described on

<http://chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/m3000.htm> item number 2035

Northe

LL

"Leo Lichtman"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

23/04/2009 11:06 AM


"Jesse" wrote: 1598 I would guess it's a hitch for a piece of farm
equiptment. Maybe
a cultivator or something else that you would have to adjust alot.
Kinda handy having the wrench be the drawpin too. If that is what it
is.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It *IS* a hitch for a piece of farm equipment--probably a plow. The arc of
holes along the side allows the farmer to adjust the angle, which controls
how deep the plow digs. It could also go on a lister.*
____________________
*For you city slickers, a lister turns the soil both ways, and makes a
furrow.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 23/04/2009 5:31 AM

24/04/2009 1:54 AM

On 2009-04-23, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Might be another difficult set this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

1597) I would like to see more viewpoints on this one, but ...

It *might* be a pressure relief valve -- perhaps with a whistle
as an alarm.

1598) Kind of small for what it looks like -- so it might be for use
in building a scale model to test the ideas.

Anyway -- what it *looks* like (other than the strange clamp
screw which also appears to act as a wrench) is the framework on
which a front suspension could be built -- shifting to different
holes to try different angles of castor and camber. Probably
for use with a wood frame, not a metal one.

1599) I would like higher resolution in the images so I could check
some ideas -- but at a guess, it is intended to hold a carbon
microphone in the box in front of an announcer, or perhaps a
very early telephone operator.

The actual microphone is missing, but it looks like the kind of
cord used for really old microphones and earsets for ancient
telephones.

1600) Perhaps for prying a wheel out of a rut so you can add
something below the wheel for increased traction?

1601) Either of two things to my mind.

1) A spray for applying insecticides in the field, or
perhaps herbicides?

2) Doesn't quite look right in the nozzle, but it *might*
be a "prickley-pear burner" -- used during sustained
periods of drought when the rancher's tank for watering
the cattle has gone nearly dry. It is used to burn the
needles off "prickley-pear" cactus -- big fat leaves
full of water -- but protected by thorns.

This works until the drought goes away, and the rancher
stops burning the needles from the cactus, at which
point the thorns grow back and the cattle are reminded
why they normally don't eat cactus, and go back tot he
tank.

1602) Similar to one in last week's batch -- it pulls frame corners
together for gluing or attaching by other forms of hardware.
This one does not expect mitred corners, but rather an end
against a side.

Now to see what others suggest.
DoN.

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