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I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
the edge of boards?
How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
Thanks!
On 5 Sep 2006 08:47:41 -0700, "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
>called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
>saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
>the edge of boards?
>
Yes the planer/joiner works, although not nearly as quick and easy as
a real joiner.
>How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
>maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
>fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>
Most molding cutters will work in a variety of tablesaws. Make
certain that the arbor sizes match. Another note: Molding cutters,
like dado cutters, need to be used with extra safety care.
stryped wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
> called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
> saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
> the edge of boards?
>
> How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
> maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
> fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>
> Thanks!
I've got one, and after playing with it a few times, it's been sitting
in my Table Saw Bits Box ever since. Much like it did when my father
owned it for something like 10 years before me.
It's kind of neat. I tried the edger thingy, but it wasn't as effective
as a good blade at giving a smooth rip.
The most useful bits I have for it are the tongue and groove inserts.
They're actually pretty good, but for me to make anything actually look
good with 'em, I'll probably have to make a jig to hold the boards
upright nicely so they feed properly.
I've found that between my router and regular table saw blades the
molding blade thing is just unnecessary.
-Nathan
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I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing good
enough for glue ups.
dadiOH wrote:
> stryped wrote:
> > x-no-archive:yes
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> > I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
> > called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
> > saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
> > the edge of boards?
> >
> > How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
> > maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these
> > will fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>
> A molding head should work on any saw that has an arbor diameter it
> will fit. It is advisable that the insert plate have an opening width
> sufficient to accommodate the cutters. Before turning on the saw, I
> mean :)
>
> You could use planer cutters to edge join a board but...
> 1. the board would have to be stood on its side
> 2. you'd have to rig something the same thickness as the cut to
> support the outfeed portion of the board.
>
> IOW, why? It is just worlds easier to edge join on a router
> table...as was explained to you at length some time ago.
>
>
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>
> dadiOH
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because I have a cheap router table that does not have a split fence.
dadiOH wrote:
> stryped wrote:
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> > I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing
> > good enough for glue ups.
>
> Figure out why.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
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WHy do you say that?
dadiOH wrote:
> No, that's not why. The reason is that you never bothered to
> try/follow the explicit instructions given you as to how to do it
> without a split fence (by "split" I'm assuming you mean one in which
> infeed/outfeed sides are independently adjustable for and aft),
> without a router table at all...even without a router.
>
> One thing I guarantee...if you buy that joiner from another thread (or
> any other joiner) you'll still be unable to join your boards.
>
>
> dadiOH
> ____________
>
> stryped wrote:
>
> > because I have a cheap router table that does not have a split
> > fence.
>
> >> dadiOH wrote:
> >> stryped wrote:
> >>> I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing
> >>> good enough for glue ups.
> >>
> >> Figure out why.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> dadiOH
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
> called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
> saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
> the edge of boards?
>
> How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
> maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
> fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>
They will work on Craftsman saws. Different saw manufacturers use different
cutouts in the table.
Actually, you can make your own inserts quite easily.
Jim
> Thanks!
>
stryped wrote:
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> I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing
> good enough for glue ups.
Figure out why.
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"Ray Mandeville" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Interesting. I own one of the very old Craftsman saws, and the insert is
only 1/8" thick. I needed a new dado head insert because the one I made
years ago died.
I bought a sheet of 1/8 tempered hardboard and cut one out using the saw
blade insert as a guide. It only took a few hours to do the whole job.
Jim
> Jim wrote:
>> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
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>>> I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
>>> called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
>>> saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
>>> the edge of boards?
>>>
>>> How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
>>> maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
>>> fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>>>
>> They will work on Craftsman saws. Different saw manufacturers use
>> different cutouts in the table.
>> Actually, you can make your own inserts quite easily.
>> Jim
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
It was also suggested to you to use a hand held router and strait edge.
Can't miss.
"stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing good
> enough for glue ups.
> dadiOH wrote:
> > stryped wrote:
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> > >
> > > I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
> > > called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
> > > saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
> > > the edge of boards?
> > >
> > > How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
> > > maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these
> > > will fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
> >
> > A molding head should work on any saw that has an arbor diameter it
> > will fit. It is advisable that the insert plate have an opening width
> > sufficient to accommodate the cutters. Before turning on the saw, I
> > mean :)
> >
> > You could use planer cutters to edge join a board but...
> > 1. the board would have to be stood on its side
> > 2. you'd have to rig something the same thickness as the cut to
> > support the outfeed portion of the board.
> >
> > IOW, why? It is just worlds easier to edge join on a router
> > table...as was explained to you at length some time ago.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > dadiOH
> > ____________________________
> >
> > dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
No, that's not why. The reason is that you never bothered to
try/follow the explicit instructions given you as to how to do it
without a split fence (by "split" I'm assuming you mean one in which
infeed/outfeed sides are independently adjustable for and aft),
without a router table at all...even without a router.
One thing I guarantee...if you buy that joiner from another thread (or
any other joiner) you'll still be unable to join your boards.
dadiOH
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stryped wrote:
> because I have a cheap router table that does not have a split
> fence.
>> dadiOH wrote:
>> stryped wrote:
>>> I know, I just cant get the router table to work on edge jointing
>>> good enough for glue ups.
>>
>> Figure out why.
>>
>> --
>>
>> dadiOH
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stryped <[email protected]> wrote:
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>I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
>called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
>saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
>the edge of boards?
>
>How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
>maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
>fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>
>Thanks!
>
I've got one of those old Craftsman molding heads. It will fit on most
any saw that will accept a dado blade. I couldn't see using one an
anyting smaller or less powerful than a normal contractor's saw. It is
usually necessary (IME, YMMV) to make a few passes at increasing depth
to complete a molding, depending on the exact profile you are aiming
for. As far as the planer/jointer insert, a standard tablesaw blade
can do an excellent job of edge jointing. Check any good tablesaw book
for techniques.
You should be aware that the Craftsman molding heads, as well as the
Delta, use steel cutters, not carbide. There is a more modern design
called a Magic Molder (I believe that is the name) that uses an
aluminum disk with carbide cutters. Seems like a nice setup but was
kind of pricey as I recall.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
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Jim wrote:
> "stryped" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
>> called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
>> saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
>> the edge of boards?
>>
>> How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
>> maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these will
>> fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
>>
> They will work on Craftsman saws. Different saw manufacturers use different
> cutouts in the table.
> Actually, you can make your own inserts quite easily.
> Jim
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>
stryped wrote:
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>
> I was looking in my craftsman catalog and saw you can buy somethign
> called a molding insert that allows you to make moldings on a table
> saw. They also had a "planer/joiner" insert. Can I use that to joint
> the edge of boards?
>
> How can I tell what saws those inserts will work on? I am looking ot
> maybe buy a better used table saw. How can I tell if one of these
> will fit it and what should I look for in a used saw?
A molding head should work on any saw that has an arbor diameter it
will fit. It is advisable that the insert plate have an opening width
sufficient to accommodate the cutters. Before turning on the saw, I
mean :)
You could use planer cutters to edge join a board but...
1. the board would have to be stood on its side
2. you'd have to rig something the same thickness as the cut to
support the outfeed portion of the board.
IOW, why? It is just worlds easier to edge join on a router
table...as was explained to you at length some time ago.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
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