SW

"Steve W"

05/04/2006 10:47 PM

What do you use to clean oil off new TS?

I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.

Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?

If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking of
using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.

-Steve



This topic has 19 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 6:42 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Cap'n 321
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I used a good grade of auto wax for a protective coat and will reapply
> weekly.

Just make sure there's no silicone in that automotive wax.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 8:51 PM

Steve W wrote:
> I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
> top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
> gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
> couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
> also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.
>
> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
> majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>
> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking of
> using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>

You could get a bottle of lamp oil. Try WalMart if there is one near you.

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"Tanus"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 7:41 PM


Steve W wrote:
> That is what I suggested. The said they could only legally sell in an
> authorized container.
>
>
I buy kerosene in 19l(4 gallons US?) containers here for about $23 CDN.
That includes the container which is just a plastic jug with a screwcap
on it. It sounds like you're in a jurisdiction that has some different
kinds of rules, or the store is trying to soak you for a container. I'd
try a different place and see if the story is the same.

Kerosene is flammable for sure, but nowhere near as volatile as gas or
acetone, and should be more widely available than what you're
describing. Maybe a few minutes on the phone calling different
suppliers will get you a better kick at it.

Tanus

ba

"bremen68"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 10:08 AM

I have good results with WD40. If you let it dry it does make a lovely
varnish, but that does take a while.

Somebody mentioned Coleman fuel......Ya might want to pass on that
stuff....Take if from an experienced pyro, that's some serious stuff
there. It'll flash in a big hurry.

If you ask around somebody you know is bound to have some kero around
and will probably part with a pint or so for you.

Good luck!!!

pd

"professorpaul"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 12:07 PM

Charcoal starter is essentially kerosene. You can get it by the quart
in the local grocery store.

CF

Chris Friesen

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 5:05 PM

Steve W wrote:
> I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
> top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
> gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why?

They're volatile and may damage the paint.

I had reasonable luck with a putty knife and then mineral spirits...was
careful not to scrub at the paint too much.

I used a small screwdriver and an old toothbrush to clear the gunk out
of the miter slots.

Chris

SW

"Steve W"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 11:18 PM


"stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No offense, but this was recently discussed here.
>
> check here:
> http://tinyurl.com/lpesk
>
>
>
> --
> Stoutman
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com
> (Featuring a NEW look) >
>


Yeesh, same exact question. Sorry. For some reason that thread is not on
my news server.

Looks like I need to learn to use Google groups.

Thanks

-Steve


GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 1:25 AM

Kerosene container? How about a mason jar?

"Steve W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
>top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get
>a couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene
>container also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier
>to get.
>
> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
> majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>
> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking of
> using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>

AA

"Amused"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 10:21 PM


"Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:76_Yf.16773$Up2.13843@trnddc07...
> Kerosene container? How about a mason jar?
>
> "Steve W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
>>top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get
>>a couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene
>>container also. There must be something else that would be safe and
>>easier to get.
>>
>> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping
>> the majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>>
>> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking
>> of using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
Oil eventually gets dry and sticky.
BTW, WD-40 eventually forms a varnish when it dries.

Coleman camp fuel (white gas)
Goop-be-gone
Goof off
Any auto tar remover (It's mostly keroscene, anyway)
Any auto degreaser
Carbrator cleaner

Buy several rolls of paper towels.

If it's cosmoline and not oil....Oh, boy, are you in for a fun time. But
there's other things that will work, including keroscene. Consider it one
of life's learning experiences.

Find a self-serve gas station that sells kerosene. How the hell do they
know what kind of container you put it in?

What kind of container costs $20? That sucker must have a real collection
of safety stickers on it.

Protection. Johnson's paste wax.

SW

"Steve W"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

07/04/2006 12:31 AM


"Amused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:76_Yf.16773$Up2.13843@trnddc07...
>> Kerosene container? How about a mason jar?
>>
>> "Steve W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off
>>>the top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>>>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to
>>>get a couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene
>>>container also. There must be something else that would be safe and
>>>easier to get.
>>>
>>> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping
>>> the majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>>>
>>> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking
>>> of using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
> Oil eventually gets dry and sticky.
> BTW, WD-40 eventually forms a varnish when it dries.
>
> Coleman camp fuel (white gas)
> Goop-be-gone
> Goof off
> Any auto tar remover (It's mostly keroscene, anyway)
> Any auto degreaser
> Carbrator cleaner
>
> Buy several rolls of paper towels.
>
> If it's cosmoline and not oil....Oh, boy, are you in for a fun time. But
> there's other things that will work, including keroscene. Consider it one
> of life's learning experiences.
>
> Find a self-serve gas station that sells kerosene. How the hell do they
> know what kind of container you put it in?
>
> What kind of container costs $20? That sucker must have a real collection
> of safety stickers on it.
>
> Protection. Johnson's paste wax.
>
>

Thanks everyone. That container was $14 at True Value plus the cost of the
kerosene. I found a can for $7 at Lowes, so I'm all set.

Kerosene + Johnson's wax it is.

Now to find some shim material...

-Steve

PH

Peter Huebner

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 12:25 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
> top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
> gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
> couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
> also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.
>

Both gasoline or acetone/paint thinner can attack inferior quality paints and
plastics and turn them into a gooey mess. That'd be one reason not to (apart
from the fire thang). That didnt' stop me from using acetone on my bandsaw
table last week and it worked fine but I made sure not to get any on the
paintwork :-)

I finished the cleaning with air tool oil on a cotton cloth. Basically, if it's
a wax that is soluble in kerosene, you will be able to use nearly any light
oil: air tool oil, diesel fuel, WD 40 or CRC with varying degrees of speed (the
more volatile the liquid, the quicker it will dissolve the wax).

h.t.h., -Peter

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Cl

Cap'n 321

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

07/04/2006 12:39 AM

Look back on this board about 10 days ago for same subject. I just got
a new Delta and ended up using mineral spirits. Worked fine.

I used a good grade of auto wax for a protective coat and will reapply
weekly.

Cap'n 321

Steve W wrote:
> I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
> top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
> gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
> couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
> also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.
>
> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
> majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>
> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking of
> using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>

SW

"Steve W"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 2:27 AM

That is what I suggested. The said they could only legally sell in an
authorized container.


> Kerosene container? How about a mason jar?
>
> "Steve W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
>>top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get
>>a couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene
>>container also. There must be something else that would be safe and
>>easier to get.
>>
>> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping
>> the majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>>
>> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking
>> of using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Ld

LRod

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 2:05 AM

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:47:01 GMT, "Steve W"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
>top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
>couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
>also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.

Kerosene is the best. Almost any big box, hardware store, or paint
store will have quart cans of it for considerably less than $20. You
don't have to buy your own container.


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"stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 11:26 PM


> Yeesh, same exact question. Sorry. For some reason that thread is not on
> my news server.
>
> Looks like I need to learn to use Google groups.
>
> Thanks
>
> -Steve
>

I wouldn't have noticed but it was just last Saturday and I remembered
reading some of it.

No need to apologize. I rehash stuff also to get the input of current
participants, but this was last Saturday! :)

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

06/04/2006 3:33 AM


"Steve W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
>top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
>gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get
>a couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene
>container also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier
>to get.
>
> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
> majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>
I tried that, but the residue is gunky and clings tightly to saw dust.
I cleaned it all off with 409 and then put wax on it. Much better idea.

Dd

Dave

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 10:50 PM

Steve W wrote:
> I just got a Delta TS and they want me to clean the protective oil off the
> top with kerosene. They specifically say not to use paint thinner,
> gasoline, or acetone. Any idea why? It would cost me almost 20.00 to get a
> couple ounces of kerosene because I would have to buy a kerosene container
> also. There must be something else that would be safe and easier to get.
>
> Someone suggested oven cleaner to me, but I am thinking of just wiping the
> majority off and leaving a film to protect it. Bad idea?
>
> If I clean it off, what would you suggest to protect it. I am thinking of
> using wood polishing wax or a Teflon spray.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
because of the flash point of the three they tell you NOT to use. I
could see a law suit when someone uses gasoline and a little sandpaper
to help it along

s@

"stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 10:52 PM

No offense, but this was recently discussed here.

check here:
http://tinyurl.com/lpesk



--
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http://www.garagewoodworks.com
(Featuring a NEW look) >

s@

"stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to "Steve W" on 05/04/2006 10:47 PM

05/04/2006 10:58 PM

Here is the whole thing.

I posted the wrong link before.

http://tinyurl.com/qf5p5

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