RS

"Rick Samuel"

21/11/2007 6:35 AM

OT. Nail guns

Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.

Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on the
market, wonder why?

Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.

Thanks


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CK

"CM"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

22/11/2007 1:40 PM

We see a lot of Hitachi and Senco on the job sites here.

cm

www.vintagetrailersforsale.com

"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>
> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
> the market, wonder why?
>
> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>
> Thanks
>

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

22/11/2007 2:58 PM

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:08:29 -0600, Tom Kendrick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Here's are some reasons you see a lot of rebuilt PC's:

Also:

They are sold in lots of home centers, in full kits, where they get
returned after a weekend of use.

TK

Tom Kendrick

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

24/11/2007 9:53 PM

Larry,
My first framing nailer was an older Hilti built on the Duo-Fast
pattern. Hilti still makes powder-actuated concrete guns but has been
out of the pneumatic nailer business for quite a while. I finally gave
away my old red Hilti and all the nails to a friend.
There are no repair parts for that Hilti framer other than maybe
some O-rings, so if it fails significantly, it will be time for a new
nailer. The nails are also 17-degree collation, rather than 20-22
degree that most RH framers use. I would advise against significant
fastener accumulation for the Hilti.
The Senco, Hitachi, PorterCable, Paslode, Max and Milwaukee (yes,
they recently entered this market) are the real workhorses and are
very solid performers.

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:09:30 GMT, "Larry Clinton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I believe you will find as one person had posted that the best gun is the
>one where a local supply of quality nails and parts are available. My son
>has a Hilti, works great, but when I built my shop using it for the large (3
>1/2" nails) I had to order off the internet as no one within 40 miles
>stocked the nails, uses same nails as Spotnail guns. I used my Senco for the
>light framing / decking (2 5/8" max) - it also worked great and the nails
>were available at the local borgs. Spotnails and Hilti are highly
>recommended and used by the pro's - just not in Central Indiana. I think
>you will do well with Senco, PC, Spotnails, Bostich, or Hilti - if nails and
>parts are locally available. Many of the new guns are oil-less. Doubt they
>last as long as an oil type properly oiled but probably last several times
>longer than an oil type that is not oiled and maintained properly.
>
>"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>>
>> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
>> the market, wonder why?
>>
>> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
>> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>

tt

"todd"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

22/11/2007 9:12 AM

"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>
> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
> the market, wonder why?
>
> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>
> Thanks

The carpenter that helped me frame my garage was partial to Bostitch.

todd

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

22/11/2007 1:57 PM


"todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>>
>> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
>> the market, wonder why?
>>
>> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
>> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> The carpenter that helped me frame my garage was partial to Bostitch.
>
> todd

I've replaced 3 drive pins on my 2 year old Bostitch. I have a DeWalt about
the same age and it hasn't missed a day.
YMMV.

Max

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

23/11/2007 11:18 AM

Thanks! What the pros use will work for me.


"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "todd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>>>
>>> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
>>> the market, wonder why?
>>>
>>> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
>>> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> The carpenter that helped me frame my garage was partial to Bostitch.
>>
>> todd
>
> I've replaced 3 drive pins on my 2 year old Bostitch. I have a DeWalt
> about the same age and it hasn't missed a day.
> YMMV.
>
> Max
>

TK

Tom Kendrick

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

22/11/2007 8:08 AM

I have the Hitachi (RH) and Paslode (CH). Senco has been around a long
time as well.

Here are the secrets:
1. Availability of quality fasteners that match the nailer.
2. Availability of parts
3. Keeping the nailer dry, clean, warm and lubricated
4. Run the right air pressure

Here's are some reasons you see a lot of rebuilt PC's:
1. They are less expensive
2. Parts are readily available
3. They are abused by framing crews
- NOT lubricated
- Used as hammers
- Tossed into the back of a pickup or a toolbox
- Treated like hammers
- Dropped into dirt and sand

This also happens to other brands as well. It's not unusual for a
framing contractor to bring in a box of nailers that are out of
service for repair (1-2 dozen).

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:35:41 +0300, "Rick Samuel"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>
>Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on the
>market, wonder why?
>
>Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
>tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>
>Thanks
>

LC

"Larry Clinton"

in reply to "Rick Samuel" on 21/11/2007 6:35 AM

24/11/2007 6:09 PM

I believe you will find as one person had posted that the best gun is the
one where a local supply of quality nails and parts are available. My son
has a Hilti, works great, but when I built my shop using it for the large (3
1/2" nails) I had to order off the internet as no one within 40 miles
stocked the nails, uses same nails as Spotnail guns. I used my Senco for the
light framing / decking (2 5/8" max) - it also worked great and the nails
were available at the local borgs. Spotnails and Hilti are highly
recommended and used by the pro's - just not in Central Indiana. I think
you will do well with Senco, PC, Spotnails, Bostich, or Hilti - if nails and
parts are locally available. Many of the new guns are oil-less. Doubt they
last as long as an oil type properly oiled but probably last several times
longer than an oil type that is not oiled and maintained properly.

"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yeah, a bit OT, but some excellent help here in the past.
>
> Who makes the better framing guns? Seems like a lot of rebuilt PC's on
> the market, wonder why?
>
> Now that I'm half way around the world, just can't run down to the local
> tool shop....will have to order & have it shipped.
>
> Thanks
>
>


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