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Wally

23/02/2004 2:30 PM

Vacuum cleaner question

I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...

I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
"ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums. They
burn even though I buy the "especially designed" bags and filters and
even though I change/wash them often.

Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
motor and burns it.

I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?

I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
What's the advantage/disadvantages?

Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!

Wally


This topic has 6 replies

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

24/02/2004 1:41 AM

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:30:09 -0500, Wally <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>
>I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
>"ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
>burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums. They
>burn even though I buy the "especially designed" bags and filters and
>even though I change/wash them often.
>
>Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
>hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
>the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
>home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
>after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
>extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
>motor and burns it.
>
>I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
>concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
>that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
>there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?
>
>I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
>What's the advantage/disadvantages?
>
>Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!
>
>Wally



I like my porter cable vac.

wD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

23/02/2004 10:02 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Wally <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>
>I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
>"ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
>burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums.
[snip]
>I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
>concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
>that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
>there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?

There sure is.

Get one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2381542668
(Electrolux Automatic G canister vac)

My parents bought one new in about 1961. They gave it to me fifteen years ago
because they thought it was worn out. Ten bucks' worth of new bearings and
brushes, and it was as good as new. I'm still using it. Runs like a champ, no
matter what I vacuum up with it. Including drywall dust.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

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Rm

Russell

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

23/02/2004 10:46 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>
> I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
> "ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
> burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums. They
> burn even though I buy the "especially designed" bags and filters and
> even though I change/wash them often.
>
> Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
> hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
> the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
> home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
> after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
> extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
> motor and burns it.
>
> I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
> concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
> that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
> there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?
>
> I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
> What's the advantage/disadvantages?
>
> Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!
>
> Wally
>
>
Festo CT22,I have had mine for four years now and I use it for all
sanding and fine dust.Bags are expensive but they are 22lt but it does
the job,doesnt let dust through and they give you a long garantee
Russell

Bi

"Brian in Vancouver, BC"

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

23/02/2004 8:51 PM

Wally <[email protected]> wrote in news:0gkk30p17l94rchlbjftp594d6p7bevsho@
4ax.com:

> I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>...
>
> Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
> hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
> the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
> home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
> after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
> extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
> motor and burns it.
>
> I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
> concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
> that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
> there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?
>
> I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
> What's the advantage/disadvantages?
>
> Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!
>
> Wally
>
>

Wally;

Speaking slightly off-topic this is what I did in my shop.

I was using a 4 hp (?) Sears shop vac (SV) with 2-1/2" hose but it was
unsuitable for my planer and recently-bought jointer. I needed something
to roll around the shop and connect to these latter 2 tools as well as
the table saw, ros sanders and router table fence(2-1/2" conn.). I
bought, on sale, a Delta 50-660 3/4 hp DC for $200 CAN. It's more
powerful (more air) and quieter than the SV and captures more dust than
the former. When I need to connect to the 2-1/2" conn. tools, I connect
my SV hose to a 4>2-1/2" reducer-adapter on the DC hose. It definitely
met my needs in my garage shop. It collects the heavier material in the
rolling bin and the fines in a large external bag filter.

I would not want to wheel it around the house and don't think it would be
suitable to do so, however when kept in the workshop it works well. For
the house (shop) dust I guess I would use my SV that now sits idle in the
garage or I might use the DC in a single room under construction where it
was relatively stationary and I could reach the room perimeter with the
SV hose.

Brian

dd

[email protected] (dustin pockets)

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

23/02/2004 6:58 PM

Wally <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>
> I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
> "ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
> burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums. They
> burn even though I buy the "especially designed" bags and filters and
> even though I change/wash them often.
>
> Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
> hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
> the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
> home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
> after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
> extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
> motor and burns it.
>
> I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
> concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something

Wally,

Have you thought about upgrading your shop vac's filter? I've an
older Sears vac that would pass way too much drywall dust into the
air. It has lots of suction, just poor filters. I upgraded to a
CleanStream replacement filter, about $39 IIRC. That really improved
the collection of the fine dust without decreasing the suction. The
CleanStream filter is made of a gore-tex type of material, is easily
cleaned and works with wet pickups also. They are sold by a number of
places, but mine came from Eagle America, the router bit folks. BTW,
this old Sears has a separate fan for cooling the motor. The vacuum
exhaust is separate.

good luck
> that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
> there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?
>
> I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
> What's the advantage/disadvantages?
>
> Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!
>
> Wally

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Wally on 23/02/2004 2:30 PM

23/02/2004 8:38 PM

get one of the Feins, and order a 1 micron filter too.

dave

Wally wrote:
> I'm seeking some help and guidance in a soon to happen purchase...
>
> I'd like to upgrade my vacuum cleaner mostly because my not so old
> "ShopVac" doesn't seem to hold up to what I make it swallow... I've
> burned 2 in the past year so I'm fed up of those cheap vacuums. They
> burn even though I buy the "especially designed" bags and filters and
> even though I change/wash them often.
>
> Here's what I need: I do woodworking so I need a vacuum cleaner to
> hook up to the small portable tools (I have a DC but it's hook up to
> the tablesaw, planner and jointer). The problem is I do occasional
> home improvement projects and I need to pick up the fine dust left
> after sending a gypsum board wall or just the regular dust that can be
> extremelly small. Obviously, this dust enventually ends up in the
> motor and burns it.
>
> I want something durable and that will last. Money is the least of my
> concerns, I just don't want to have the feeling I'm buying something
> that will break a few months later. Is there a vacuum cleaner out
> there that works and performs like a Milwaukee Sawzall?
>
> I've read some other things about stages (some have 1, 2 or 3)...
> What's the advantage/disadvantages?
>
> Thank you to who ever wants to shed some light on this dusty subject!
>
> Wally
>


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