On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:59:56 -0700 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:
> 1652 a German artillery gage for aiming some kind of field gun?
> Guessing here,, I don't really have an 88 in the back yard.
Austro-Hungarian, based on the writing. Korneuburg, the town listed, is
just north of Vienna. (Not that I actually know what it *is*, however.)
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:20:27 -0400, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
>> high heels maybe??
>
>I forgot to measure them so 2-1/2" was my guess, they are probably closer to
>2" long, I just changed the number on my web site to this shorter value,
>though according to the link below they are sold in lengths ranging from
>41 - 80mm (1.6 - 3.1 inches).
>
>http://www.cottamhorseshoes.com/horseshoe_nails.htm
>
>
>Rob
Grandfather regularly made novelty rings from horseshoe nails which
would require a nail longer than 2 1/2"
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
In article <[email protected]>, Steve W.
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
> >> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is
> >> normal, high heels maybe??
> >
> > I forgot to measure them so 2-1/2" was my guess, they are probably
> > closer to 2" long, I just changed the number on my web site to this
> > shorter value, though according to the link below they are sold in
> > lengths ranging from 41 - 80mm (1.6 - 3.1 inches).
> >
> > http://www.cottamhorseshoes.com/horseshoe_nails.htm
> >
> >
> > Rob
>
> The length varies depending on the horses hoof size and the type of shoe
> used as well as the location you're installing the nail. The idea is
> that you use a nail that is just long enough that it can be clinched and
> cut.
There's a big difference between a Shetland Pony's hoof and a
Percheron's hoof...
--
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On Jun 25, 10:36=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1652: Appears to be a military map calculator, converting distances
into various numbers.
The "Austrian and Hungarian" patent number would presumably help date
it.
"Vorposten" means "outposts".
"Marsch" means "march".
"Lager" means camp, or stores.
"Colonnen-l=E4ngen" means "convoy length"
On Jun 26, 11:22=A0am, Gerald Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Grandfather regularly made novelty rings from horseshoe nails which
> would require a nail longer than 2 1/2"
> Gerry :-)}
> London, Canada
Oh yeah, I used to make rings out of them too!
The farrier would let me have a go at them, at a corner
of the shop where he had a heavy metal table top
to fine tune the horseshoes. Good fun and the rings
looked very "macho" at school: I scored a few pecks
from the girls as a result. They liked them as pendants in
leather necklaces, as well!
;)
Dang, now I'm all reminiscent...
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>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1654. Mikuni make carburettors etc, looks like a fuel pump with a few parts
missing. You can see the in/out ports - dual carbies.
The rest - wouldn't have a clue.
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> Rob H. wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 6:36 PM:
>> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> 1656 - horseshoe nails
I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal, high
heels maybe??
:)
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> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 1656 - horseshoe nails
>>
>>
>> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
>> high heels maybe??
>>
>>
>> :)
>
>
> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof
> and is then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
That makes sense, I guess they'd hurt a bit otherwise. The only horse
podiatry I've seen is a horse getting its hooves trimmed & the gunk
underneath cleaned out. The farm dog had a good feed on the scraps.
"John Husvar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> Gerald Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:14:22 -0400, John Husvar
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1656 - horseshoe nails
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is
>> >> > normal,
>> >> > high
>> >> > heels maybe??
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > :)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the
>> >> hoof
>> >> and
>> >> is
>> >> then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
>> >> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
>> >
>> >The tips are beveled on only one side too. When the nails are driven,
>> >that side is always toward the center of the hoof. That causes the nail
>> >to bend slightly to the outside. With a slanted start, that makes it
>> >less likely the nail will penetrate to the live tissues of the hoof and
>> >helps assure it leaves enough outside to cut off and clinch.
>> >
>> >Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
>> Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
>> 1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
>> Gerry :-)}
>> London, Canada
>
> Yes, I've known a few aged farriers too. Not having done a statistical
> study, I can't say how many reach advanced age still practicing. But
> I've known more who gave up the job before 40 too, usually because of
> injuries by fractious horses.
>
> Most of the older ones I've known in 40+ years of being owned by horses
> won't work on a bad horse more than one or two times. Then they tell the
> owner to find somebody else or have a vet on site with tranquilizer - or
> carry some themselves.
My cousin and his father were race-track farriers. My uncle lasted to 45
before his back gave out. My cousin died at age 36, so we never got to see
how he would hold up.
--
Ed Huntress
"Gerald Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:38:20 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> >Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly.
>>>> >:)
>>>> Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
>>>> 1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
>>>> Gerry :-)}
>>>> London, Canada
>>>
>>> Yes, I've known a few aged farriers too. Not having done a statistical
>>> study, I can't say how many reach advanced age still practicing. But
>>> I've known more who gave up the job before 40 too, usually because of
>>> injuries by fractious horses.
>>>
>>> Most of the older ones I've known in 40+ years of being owned by horses
>>> won't work on a bad horse more than one or two times. Then they tell the
>>> owner to find somebody else or have a vet on site with tranquilizer - or
>>> carry some themselves.
>>
>>My cousin and his father were race-track farriers. My uncle lasted to 45
>>before his back gave out. My cousin died at age 36, so we never got to see
>>how he would hold up.
> Grandfather moved away from the trade around 1900 to more interesting
> work like converting the Ford 999 from tiller steering to a more
> motorcycle type of "handlebar" so that Barney Oldfield would accept
> the challenge of driving it. Junior was amazed to discover that "It's
> made of wood!" when we visited the Ford museum some years ago.
> Gerry :-)}
> London, Canada
Oh, that's interesting. I've seen photos of old 999.
--
Ed Huntress
On Jun 25, 4:36=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1651- It's gonna drive me nuts, I've seen one, somewhere...
1653- wood turning diameter setting tool
1654- fuel pump, but for what is the trick I think
1655- I'm going top say for making dotted lines in stencils
Dave
1651 bullet hole plug for rubber boat - think Navy Seal Team (a Swiss
army rubber boat with these plugs is for sale in the latest Deutsch
Optics catalog) - the photo in the actual catalog shows the olugs.
www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=1029
1652 a German artillery gage for aiming some kind of field gun?
Guessing here,, I don't really have an 88 in the back yard.
Joel in Fllorida
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>
>
> Rob
1655 Tracing tools
Steve R.
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>
> Rob
Another thought on 1651. Perhaps this is a pestle. The grooves could be
used to break up pills against a flat surface before before they are put
into a mortar for final pulveriztion. The grooves would also make a nice
grip.
Carl G.
In article <[email protected]>, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
1651: Looks like a stopper, usable on different sized bottles.
1652: My first guess would be used in navigation, but I'd expect two
of the scales to be nautical miles & mile or nm & km, and they aren't.
1653: Seen it before, didn't know then either. Maybe for leatherworking?
1654: A strange mixing valve with 2 ins and 4 outs. Perhaps a heat
exchanger also?
1655: Toilet paper perforators. The machinery wasn't reliable so they
had people do it by hand. Different size wheels for different grades
of paper.
1656: Nails for attaching wood to masonry?
--
It's times like these which make me glad my bank is Dial-a-Mattress
On Jun 25, 4:36=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
1653 - A woodturner's sizing tool ... it's clamped onto a parting tool
to turn to a specific diameter.
1655 - Possibly a set of rowels to transfer patterns either to cloth
or wood.
1656 - Farrier's nails ... I've also used these in making stained
glass windows to hold the glass and lead caming temporarily in place
while assembling the window.
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:14:22 -0400, John Husvar
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> 1656 - horseshoe nails
>> >
>> >
>> > I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
>> > high
>> > heels maybe??
>> >
>> >
>> > :)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof and
>> is
>> then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
>> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
>
>The tips are beveled on only one side too. When the nails are driven,
>that side is always toward the center of the hoof. That causes the nail
>to bend slightly to the outside. With a slanted start, that makes it
>less likely the nail will penetrate to the live tissues of the hoof and
>helps assure it leaves enough outside to cut off and clinch.
>
>Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
I'm not sure how much assistance I'll be able to offer. The only one
I'm at all certain about is not an unknown.
1651 - Looks culinary to me; I'd guess maybe a pusher for use in a food
mill (of the cone-shaped sieve sort of design). Most I've seen aren't
ribbed like this, but perhaps for seedy foods like tomatoes the grooves
keep things working more smoothly.
1652 - Some specialized caliper, I'd guess for directly reading the
strength of e.g. metal I-beams or similar, maybe for use by persons
performing field inspections of structures (where corrosion may have
weakened the beams).
1653 - This would appear to be another tenon cutter, for cutting round
tenons on work spun in a lathe.
1654 - Possibly a fuel pump and regulator for a four cylinder
fuel-injected diesel engine.
1655 - Wild guess: engraver's tools for making patterns, cross-hatches,
etc.
Now to read other guesses...
--
Andrew Erickson
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
1655 Guess Set of stippling tools used in etching.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Rob
Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 1656 - horseshoe nails
>
>
> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal, high
> heels maybe??
>
>
> :)
>
>
No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof and is
then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
(spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
1653 is a wood turning tool.
It is used to turn grooves to a particular diameter. If you are copying a
piece, you adjust the tool like a caliper to the original and then use to
cut a corresponding groove in the duplicate. You hook the tool over the
piece in the lathe and push down. When the tool drops to the other side of
the work piece, the grove is the same dia as the original.
Paul K Dickman
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>I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
1655: Pouncing tools for transferring a pattern to a surface,
like:
http://www.truefresco.com/frescoshop/popup_image.php?pID=32
One can dust powder through the indentations to mark the
surface.
--Winston
Rob H. wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1651 -
1652 - Scale tool for maps?
1653 - Looks like a lathe tool with a gauge guide.
1654 - Mikuni fuel pump off a two stroke engine. Uses the vacuum pulses
from the crankcase to pump the fuel.
1655 - They look like tools used in scrimshaw work.
1656 - Horse shoe nails, NEW ones. Original hand made don't have the
nice heads on them.
--
Steve W.
> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
> high heels maybe??
I forgot to measure them so 2-1/2" was my guess, they are probably closer to
2" long, I just changed the number on my web site to this shorter value,
though according to the link below they are sold in lengths ranging from
41 - 80mm (1.6 - 3.1 inches).
http://www.cottamhorseshoes.com/horseshoe_nails.htm
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is
>> normal, high heels maybe??
>
> I forgot to measure them so 2-1/2" was my guess, they are probably
> closer to 2" long, I just changed the number on my web site to this
> shorter value, though according to the link below they are sold in
> lengths ranging from 41 - 80mm (1.6 - 3.1 inches).
>
> http://www.cottamhorseshoes.com/horseshoe_nails.htm
>
>
> Rob
The length varies depending on the horses hoof size and the type of shoe
used as well as the location you're installing the nail. The idea is
that you use a nail that is just long enough that it can be clinched and
cut.
--
Steve W.
John Husvar wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Gerald Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:14:22 -0400, John Husvar
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>>>>
>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1656 - horseshoe nails
>>>>>
>>>>> I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
>>>>> high
>>>>> heels maybe??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof
>>>> and
>>>> is
>>>> then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
>>>> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
>>> The tips are beveled on only one side too. When the nails are driven,
>>> that side is always toward the center of the hoof. That causes the nail
>>> to bend slightly to the outside. With a slanted start, that makes it
>>> less likely the nail will penetrate to the live tissues of the hoof and
>>> helps assure it leaves enough outside to cut off and clinch.
>>>
>>> Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
>> Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
>> 1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
>> Gerry :-)}
>> London, Canada
>
> Yes, I've known a few aged farriers too. Not having done a statistical
> study, I can't say how many reach advanced age still practicing. But
> I've known more who gave up the job before 40 too, usually because of
> injuries by fractious horses.
>
> Most of the older ones I've known in 40+ years of being owned by horses
> won't work on a bad horse more than one or two times. Then they tell the
> owner to find somebody else or have a vet on site with tranquilizer - or
> carry some themselves.
My policy is three strikes. Less if the "Owner" tells me that the horse
"never did that before"
I can say that it is rewarding at times.
--
Steve W.
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> 1651 bullet hole plug for rubber boat - think Navy Seal Team (a Swiss
> army rubber boat with these plugs is for sale in the latest Deutsch
> Optics catalog) - the photo in the actual catalog shows the olugs.
> www.deutscheoptik.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=1029
That's a good link, I used it for the life raft link on my answer page,
thanks to everyone who identified the embossing tools, and also thanks to
everyone who participated in this thread. They've all been answered
correctly this week although we're lacking specifics on the map tool, the
answer page can be seen here:
http://answers290d.blogspot.com/
Rob
> 1655 Embossing and perforation tools. They are used to emboss, stencil,
> create folds, and perforate. They can be used on paper, cardstock,
> leather, and metal. When used on paper and cardstock, the wheels can be
> used to create tear-off lines. They can also be used to transfer patterns.
> Look up "Embossing Wheels" and "Embossing Tools" on Google Images to see
> similar tools.
This sounded correct to me but the owner of these tools had this reply:
"I don't think these are either embossing or pouncing tools. They are much
too fine. The coarsest tool is 6/32" diameter with 18 teeth on the
circumference. This would roll out to 32 dots per inch. The finest tool is
3/32" diameter with 50 teeth on the circumference. This would roll out to
200 dots per inch. It also doesn't explain how the .05 inch ball and the
pointed instruments fit into this."
I don't know anything about embossing, anyone agree or disagree with his
response? One more thing, the tool with the pointed end was covered with an
epoxy-like material, which may or may not be related to its actual purpose.
Rob
I haven't been able to verify any of the suggestions but I changed my answer
to read:
Embossing tools, these could have been used on leather, cloth, paper or
metal, to stencil, fold, transfer patterns, or create designs. They could
also have been used as tracing tools and for doing artwork on stencils for
Mimeograph/Hectograph type machines.
Thanks to all who replied.
Rob
In article <[email protected]>,
Gerald Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:14:22 -0400, John Husvar
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1656 - horseshoe nails
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
> >> > high
> >> > heels maybe??
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof
> >> and
> >> is
> >> then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
> >> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
> >
> >The tips are beveled on only one side too. When the nails are driven,
> >that side is always toward the center of the hoof. That causes the nail
> >to bend slightly to the outside. With a slanted start, that makes it
> >less likely the nail will penetrate to the live tissues of the hoof and
> >helps assure it leaves enough outside to cut off and clinch.
> >
> >Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
> Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
> 1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
> Gerry :-)}
> London, Canada
Yes, I've known a few aged farriers too. Not having done a statistical
study, I can't say how many reach advanced age still practicing. But
I've known more who gave up the job before 40 too, usually because of
injuries by fractious horses.
Most of the older ones I've known in 40+ years of being owned by horses
won't work on a bad horse more than one or two times. Then they tell the
owner to find somebody else or have a vet on site with tranquilizer - or
carry some themselves.
In article <[email protected]>,
Noons <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dennis wrote,on my timestamp of 25/06/2009 8:36 PM:
>
> >>>
> >>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> 1656 - horseshoe nails
> >
> >
> > I wondered the same thing - they are long 2 1/2", maybe this is normal,
> > high
> > heels maybe??
> >
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
>
>
> No. They hammer them in slanted, the tip comes off the side of the hoof and
> is
> then cut off. The remaining bit is filed flush with the hoof.
> (spent too many days of my youth watching a farrier at work...)
The tips are beveled on only one side too. When the nails are driven,
that side is always toward the center of the hoof. That causes the nail
to bend slightly to the outside. With a slanted start, that makes it
less likely the nail will penetrate to the live tissues of the hoof and
helps assure it leaves enough outside to cut off and clinch.
Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
In article <[email protected]>,
"Steve R." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 2009-06-29, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 1655 Embossing and perforation tools. They are used to emboss,
> >>> stencil,
> >>> create folds, and perforate. They can be used on paper, cardstock,
> >>> leather, and metal. When used on paper and cardstock, the wheels can be
> >>> used to create tear-off lines. They can also be used to transfer
> >>> patterns.
> >>> Look up "Embossing Wheels" and "Embossing Tools" on Google Images to see
> >>> similar tools.
> >>
> >>
> >> This sounded correct to me but the owner of these tools had this reply:
> >>
> >> "I don't think these are either embossing or pouncing tools. They are
> >> much
> >> too fine. The coarsest tool is 6/32" diameter with 18 teeth on the
> >> circumference. This would roll out to 32 dots per inch. The finest tool
> >> is
> >> 3/32" diameter with 50 teeth on the circumference. This would roll out
> >> to
> >> 200 dots per inch. It also doesn't explain how the .05 inch ball and the
> >> pointed instruments fit into this."
> >
> > I still believe that they are tools for doing artwork on
> > stencils for Mimeograph/Hectograph type machines. The toothed wheels
> > draw dotted lines (and can be used to fill in texture in drawings on the
> > stencils), while the 0.050" ball would make a large black area (or wide
> > line) and the pointed one would make a narrow line.
> >
> >> I don't know anything about embossing, anyone agree or disagree with his
> >> response? One more thing, the tool with the pointed end was covered with
> >> an
> >> epoxy-like material, which may or may not be related to its actual
> >> purpose.
> >
> > Not sure about the epoxy-like material -- other than perhaps to
> > protect the point against damage, or the user against perforation from
> > the point. I would expect it to be stuck into an eraser instead, though
> > the rubber of a really old eraser might turn into something which looks
> > like epoxy over the number of years which have been involved. My work
> > with the Memeograph/Hectograph tools was back around 1959-1960.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > DoN.
> >
> > --
> > Email: <[email protected]> | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
> > (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
> > --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
>
> When I was involved in a hobby shop, we brought them in as tracing tools.
> They could be used to trace parts on a drawing directly onto balsa wood. I
> think there are many other uses. I have one of the modern ones here.
This sounds like a tool used in sewing to transfer chalk dust to fabric
by punching through a tissue paper plan.
Joe Gwinn
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:38:20 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >Farriery: A job that makes old folks out of young folks very quickly. :)
>>> Grand father started practicing the trade in Shannonville Ontario in
>>> 1882 age 8 in his father's shop.
>>> Gerry :-)}
>>> London, Canada
>>
>> Yes, I've known a few aged farriers too. Not having done a statistical
>> study, I can't say how many reach advanced age still practicing. But
>> I've known more who gave up the job before 40 too, usually because of
>> injuries by fractious horses.
>>
>> Most of the older ones I've known in 40+ years of being owned by horses
>> won't work on a bad horse more than one or two times. Then they tell the
>> owner to find somebody else or have a vet on site with tranquilizer - or
>> carry some themselves.
>
>My cousin and his father were race-track farriers. My uncle lasted to 45
>before his back gave out. My cousin died at age 36, so we never got to see
>how he would hold up.
Grandfather moved away from the trade around 1900 to more interesting
work like converting the Ford 999 from tiller steering to a more
motorcycle type of "handlebar" so that Barney Oldfield would accept
the challenge of driving it. Junior was amazed to discover that "It's
made of wood!" when we visited the Ford museum some years ago.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
On 26 Jun 2009 03:36:54 GMT, DoN. Nichols wrote:
> 1655) These look like tools for drawing on Mimeograph stencils. The
> wheels make dotted lines, the tiny ball end makes solid lines.
Ah, the mimeograph. I remember the lovely smell of that ink. :-)
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On 2009-06-25, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1651) An intersting thing -- and I would like to see it from
a view at the big end.
My guess (and only a guess) is that it is a bobbin for thread,
twine, string, or something similar which is designed to pay off
the small end of the bobbin. (It is typically mounted with the
big end down, and an eye loop dead center above it through which
the string or whatever passes before it goes to where it is
used.
If there is no hole in the big end for mounting it, I withdraw
my guess. :-)
1652) Designed for measuring the distance between two points, and
reading it out in one of the scales which make sense for the
application. Looking at the scale designations at the left-hand
end of the arcs of the scales, I would guess that it is for
measuring distances on maps of different scales.
And it looks as though it reads in two different measurement
systems. The ratio of the markings on the nearest (and largest)
arc suggests to me that it is not meters vs yards, as the ratio
is too large. (That should be 1.093:1 and this looks more like
1.3:1)
It could be anything, including rather old units of distance
measurement given that it appears to be from somewhere in
Europe, where older systems hung on for a long time.
1653) Not sure. Perhaps for comparative measurement of things in
the process of being machined. Perhaps for scribing lines in
things to be machined.
1654) A manifold which accepts gasses or fluids in one set of
connections, and passes them out through another based on the
one-way valves on each. From the back view input is from the
fitting at about 11:00 O'Clock, and it is filtered through the
sintered bronze filter at about 2:00 on the inner area.
Whatever is connected to the similar one-way valve at about 6:30
goes out from the bottom compartment. At a guess, the vertical
cylinder molded in is a pressure regulator to limit the flow
from the upper to the lower compartment.
There are at least two push-on fittings and one threaded fitting
in the upper compartment, and one push-on in the lower
compartment.
There must be a gasket between the visible face and the mounting
plate, which might have other passages as well between the
halves.
At a guess, I would suggest that it is part of an automobile's
vacuum controller or perhaps to feed gasoline to two different
carburetors.
1655) These look like tools for drawing on Mimeograph stencils. The
wheels make dotted lines, the tiny ball end makes solid lines.
Since these were from Yugoslavia, they probably were used with a
similar machine made there.
They work by crushing a film which also can be crushed by a
typewriter to allow the ink to bleed through to the paper being
copied.
1656) Square (cut) nails -- very old designs, still used for some
things to maintain period authenticity. These look as though
they were more machine produced than the original hand cut ones
were.
Now to see what others have said.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2009-06-29, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 1655 Embossing and perforation tools. They are used to emboss, stencil,
>> create folds, and perforate. They can be used on paper, cardstock,
>> leather, and metal. When used on paper and cardstock, the wheels can be
>> used to create tear-off lines. They can also be used to transfer patterns.
>> Look up "Embossing Wheels" and "Embossing Tools" on Google Images to see
>> similar tools.
>
>
> This sounded correct to me but the owner of these tools had this reply:
>
> "I don't think these are either embossing or pouncing tools. They are much
> too fine. The coarsest tool is 6/32" diameter with 18 teeth on the
> circumference. This would roll out to 32 dots per inch. The finest tool is
> 3/32" diameter with 50 teeth on the circumference. This would roll out to
> 200 dots per inch. It also doesn't explain how the .05 inch ball and the
> pointed instruments fit into this."
I still believe that they are tools for doing artwork on
stencils for Mimeograph/Hectograph type machines. The toothed wheels
draw dotted lines (and can be used to fill in texture in drawings on the
stencils), while the 0.050" ball would make a large black area (or wide
line) and the pointed one would make a narrow line.
> I don't know anything about embossing, anyone agree or disagree with his
> response? One more thing, the tool with the pointed end was covered with an
> epoxy-like material, which may or may not be related to its actual purpose.
Not sure about the epoxy-like material -- other than perhaps to
protect the point against damage, or the user against perforation from
the point. I would expect it to be stuck into an eraser instead, though
the rubber of a really old eraser might turn into something which looks
like epoxy over the number of years which have been involved. My work
with the Memeograph/Hectograph tools was back around 1959-1960.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2009-06-29, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 1655 Embossing and perforation tools. They are used to emboss,
>>> stencil,
>>> create folds, and perforate. They can be used on paper, cardstock,
>>> leather, and metal. When used on paper and cardstock, the wheels can be
>>> used to create tear-off lines. They can also be used to transfer
>>> patterns.
>>> Look up "Embossing Wheels" and "Embossing Tools" on Google Images to see
>>> similar tools.
>>
>>
>> This sounded correct to me but the owner of these tools had this reply:
>>
>> "I don't think these are either embossing or pouncing tools. They are
>> much
>> too fine. The coarsest tool is 6/32" diameter with 18 teeth on the
>> circumference. This would roll out to 32 dots per inch. The finest tool
>> is
>> 3/32" diameter with 50 teeth on the circumference. This would roll out
>> to
>> 200 dots per inch. It also doesn't explain how the .05 inch ball and the
>> pointed instruments fit into this."
>
> I still believe that they are tools for doing artwork on
> stencils for Mimeograph/Hectograph type machines. The toothed wheels
> draw dotted lines (and can be used to fill in texture in drawings on the
> stencils), while the 0.050" ball would make a large black area (or wide
> line) and the pointed one would make a narrow line.
>
>> I don't know anything about embossing, anyone agree or disagree with his
>> response? One more thing, the tool with the pointed end was covered with
>> an
>> epoxy-like material, which may or may not be related to its actual
>> purpose.
>
> Not sure about the epoxy-like material -- other than perhaps to
> protect the point against damage, or the user against perforation from
> the point. I would expect it to be stuck into an eraser instead, though
> the rubber of a really old eraser might turn into something which looks
> like epoxy over the number of years which have been involved. My work
> with the Memeograph/Hectograph tools was back around 1959-1960.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.
>
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> --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
When I was involved in a hobby shop, we brought them in as tracing tools.
They could be used to trace parts on a drawing directly onto balsa wood. I
think there are many other uses. I have one of the modern ones here.
Steve R.
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need some assistance identifying two of them this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1651. Since it is a conical wooden screw, it could be used to force
something open. Perhaps it was used to open oysters without killing them in
the cultured pearl industry.
1655 Embossing and perforation tools. They are used to emboss, stencil,
create folds, and perforate. They can be used on paper, cardstock, leather,
and metal. When used on paper and cardstock, the wheels can be used to
create tear-off lines. They can also be used to transfer patterns. Look up
"Embossing Wheels" and "Embossing Tools" on Google Images to see similar
tools.
1656 Horseshoe nails.
Carl G.